Masturbation is for Losers

[Godless]

What part of "doctors and scientists are incompetents or liars" don't you understand?

Tell that to the doctor who delivered you to this world! :bugeye:

Tell that to the doctor who will perhaps deliver your own child.

Tell that to the doctor who will operate you, in case of heart failure.

Tell that to the doctor in the emergency room that might just save your pathetic life after an automobile accident!.

Tell the scientist who invented the tube your looking through that he's incompetent.
Tell that to the scientist who invented this mode of communication.

There you just made your ass look like an idiot! :bugeye:

Nope

Then anything medical you claim, is nothing more than farts in the wind!

So what? George Bush is president of the USA. He still lied about Iraq.

I don't know George, but I've known M*W for years now. (not just here)

Believing in a persons office instead of what they say is a mistake. Sure I am nobody.

You said it! A nobody! sure Uh-hmm!

Godless

 

[wesmorris]

Screw religion...people need God.

No Darling... SOME people need god - to others the notion is repugnant or irrelevant.

So I must ask: If you've made your decision via a personal value, like considering it a waste of time... do you then hold everyone else to that value and thus label them "losers"?

Why is it that your newfound arbitrary comprehension of a highly subjective position is somehow relevant to the lives of others, who may see things entirely differently?

Well, either way - what you call a loser probably only concerns you. I've noticed in most humans it seems when me make a decision that we can't really justify or hold to as solidly as we think we perhaps should, we marginalize or negatively characterize those who disagree or disregard our decision, basically as a motivation not to be that way because who wants to be an icky loser.

We decide that "if I behave like x, I would be a loser" and project our opinion onto all who behave that way such that we are reminded of how we don't want to behave. Something like that.

It's a tough thing to realize you're doing, and a tougher thing to stop... but I'd think any good christian or god-gal "shalt not judge"... eh? That's god's job, so you should shut the cake-hole, no?

 

[Godless]

Happeh.

Pictures show nothing of proof, pictures can be manipulated easily, so can videos, you have no credentials. (your not a doctor, nor any other proffesion that you've mentioned here) mostly hot air, that's what we've seen. Your first comments on this thread.

Protocols of Zion! why the hell didn't you post a link to that. That would have been some ref. though not justifiably true, but something is better than nothing.

for thos interested in this BS here's the link

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (PDF): Although the Protocols is a proven, antisemitic hoax

OH! wait. Does that say HOAX?

The Protocols is a document that purports to represent the ideas of a secret society of Jewish elders and was published by Sergei Nilus in Russia in 1905. These ideas are the blueprint for conquering the world. History can show the impact that this document has had on the human race.

Sounds like some conspiracy theory BS to me, next you will claim that the Zionists are taking over the world, n caused many wars, like the Illuminatis.

Come now boy, show some proof. 'That your' not blind in one eye, your limbs are useless, and you've turned gay after wanking so much.

You come here with this better than thow bull shit but nothing to back up any fucking claim that you spout from an inventions of an incopentent scientists. Electricity, the tube in front of you and the fucking doctor that delivered you! (perhaps he was a jew) huh? You biggoted bastard.

Godless

 

[leopold]

That remark really stuck in your head didn't it?

yes it did. and you know something else? you are begining to piss me off with all your "what i say is powerul" bullshit. who do you think you are? god? by your attitude that is what you think. do you seriously believe to be taken seriously?
i DEMAND that you post the evidence that masturbation causes blindness.
if you can't then SHUT THE FUCK UP about it. i demand the evidence or a retraction from you.

 

[leopold]

I know of a book that would teach you to find more things also.

let me guess you can't post the title because you forgot it right?

 

[(Q)]

About this particular subject. So far.

Or, more precisely and far more reasonably, you are dead wrong.

I personally feel it is more reasonable to believe that doctors are liars and I am right.

No one else would agree with you, obviously.

Doctors are paid big money to lie.

I have many friends and acquaintances in the medical profession who would very much like to shake you by the neck.

Clearly, you are blowing toxic gaseous oxides from your ass, most of which appears to be the leftover gray matter that once occupied your cranium.

Scientists took bribes to cover up research. Those guys will do anything, including giving out false health information, for money.

While you give out false information for free - how novel.

 

[Happeh]

Happeh.

Pictures show nothing of proof, pictures can be manipulated easily, so can videos, you have no credentials. (your not a doctor, nor any other proffesion that you've mentioned here) mostly hot air, that's what we've seen. Your first comments on this thread.

Not for you they wouldn't. You are only looking for a reason to be sarcastic. You are not looking at the information.

You biggoted bastard.Godless

This sums up your speech style. You do not debate. You fling foolishness at people. Good thing too. I might have wasted time talking to you as if you were an interested person.

 

[Happeh]

yes it did. and you know something else? you are begining to piss me off with all your "what i say is powerul" bullshit.

You have an inferiority complex don't you? Otherwise, why would what some anonymous guy on the internet, who you say is wrong, make you so angry?

who do you think you are? god?

Nope. Just some guy with knowledge that you don't have. No different from Snakelord. I bet he knows lots of things I don't. I am not a doctor.

do you seriously believe to be taken seriously?

Why not?

i DEMAND that you post the evidence that masturbation causes blindness.
if you can't then SHUT THE FUCK UP about it. i demand the evidence or a retraction from you.

Get real. I would never do anything that someone demanded of me. If you asked me, I got no problem with that. You start shouting and pushing, I won't do anything you want.

I was hoping for some sanity. If you would say "Happeh. I see that scientists have connected the penis on the outside of the body with the heart on the inside of the bodyfrom the news release you posted. I accept that. You can now move on to some different ideas". Then I would do just that. No need for shouting or getting upset.

I did post a picture of a man. Did you look at that picture? I specifically asked for people to post their impressions of the man's health. No one did. That is not my fault.

 

[c7ityi_]

Just because someone says that you are a loser doesn't mean it is so. Only one listener is important. God. You. You know if you are a loser or not.

 

[Happeh]

let me guess you can't post the title because you forgot it right?

No. Too much anger and unreasonableness in the atmosphere here.

 

[Happeh]

I have many friends and acquaintances in the medical profession who would very much like to shake you by the neck.

Why? Because they hate for the truth to get out? From the comments here, people seem to think I am making this up. If you wish, I can bring news clippings from my files here. I keep files on every scientists and doctor who is a liar. I got lots of doctors killing patients, turning drug addict, testifying drugs are good for bribery, drugs that are pushed on patients because the corporations give cars to the doctors that sell the most. I got scientists stealing research and credit from other scientists. Scientific studies accepted for decades as reality, then, poof!, someone decides it was all a mistake and something else is what reality is about.

Something else like, say, Happeh Theory.

Then I got the stories of science that is banned for political reasons. Science that is banned because it will undercut the profits of a corporation currently selling similar materials. Scientists and doctors are people just like anyone else. Some are good, some are bad. A smart person would remain aware that there are bad ones. Just like people are cautious around dogs because you can't tell if they bite until it is too late.

Clearly, you are blowing toxic gaseous oxides from your ass, most of which appears to be the leftover gray matter that once occupied your cranium.

Why clearly? I have posted one scientific study about erectile dysfunction and heart attack, and one picture of a man. And you are ready to completely condemn everything I say based on that. You are jumping to conclusions. Anyone would tell you that. Any scientist will tell you that tests are repeated over and over until everyone agrees. If we were scientifically testing Happeh Theory, if you guys were responsible scientists, we would have to commit to 6 months of testing. Whether we liked it or not, we would have to go back and forth for 6 months for our research to be judged reliable.

Scientists took bribes to cover up research. Those guys will do anything, including giving out false health information, for money.

While you give out false information for free - how novel.

It is only in your head that it is false. If you wanted to, you could tell a nuclear physicist he was giving out false information. I bet you know nothing about nuclear physics. What you are doing is making a judgement based on inadequate information. That is not science.

 

[Happeh]

Just because someone says that you are a loser doesn't mean it is so. Only one listener is important. God. You. You know if you are a loser or not.

I agree with you. It is good advice and about the only real alternative.

My problem with that is that it ignores the hurtful aspects of the comments. People think words are words. Words are a vehicle for energy. You can literally cause mental and physical damage to unsuspecting people with words. It is necessary to do what it is necessary to do in order to stop the damage from occurring. The methods are different for different people. Some people ignore things. I don't do that because in my experience, people are lemmings. They listen to whoever shouts the loudest.

If I stand here, while leopold or someone else shouts I am wrong, and I say nothing in return, the lemmings will automatically assume I must be wrong. I am not shouting back at leopold loudly. I don't want to act that way. I have to play to the audience. I wish people were educated and polite and would listen and think. It hasn't turned out that way.

Thanks for your input though. It is good for people that it works with.

 

[c7ityi_]

People think words are words. Words are a vehicle for energy. You can literally cause mental and physical damage to unsuspecting people with words. It is necessary to do what it is necessary to do in order to stop the damage from occurring.

Everything begins in the mind. It is not really the words that cause the damage, it is you, it is what you think of the words. Ultimately, everything can be controlled. Not even the outside can affect us if we can control ourselves, the inside.

If I stand here, while leopold or someone else shouts I am wrong, and I say nothing in return, the lemmings will automatically assume I must be wrong.

What does it matter if they assume you're wrong?

I wish people were educated and polite and would listen and think.

Impossible. Evolution requires time.

Thanks for your input though. It is good for people that it works with.

Impossible. Everyone already knows everything I say.

 

[James R]

Happeh:

Again, you want a piece of paper saying "masturbation will cause blindness, signed by the authorities". I plainly said there is no such thing.

By "authorities", I assume you mean "scientists who have looked for a link between masterbation and blindness".

So, in essence, you are admitting that there is no scientific evidence that excessive masterbation is harmful in any way. Is that correct?

In the process of teaching you, I felt it was relevant to show the connection between the penis on the external part of the body, and the heart 2 feet away on the inside of the body. In my travels around the internet, most people believe their penis is something like a pencil that has been superglued to their body. They do not accept that the penis is intimately connected thruout the entire body. Because of this past experience, I felt it would be best to show an undeniable scientific approved correlation between the penis and the heart.

But I asked you specifically to provide a link to the relevant article, and you couldn't do it. As far as I can tell, you're just making this up.

 

[SnakeLord]

Sure. That would be great. Win the lottery, get rich and famous for pointing out the obvious. Why should I feel guilty about that?

Where did I tell you to feel guilty about it? I must now ask if you have the ability to read, or comprehend English. I stated that as you want to get rich and famous, making other people believe you should be of utmost importance to you. Seriously, if you're having problems understanding English then let me know. I shall move on to drawing little pictures if it's going to be more beneficial.

You said you will not inspect pictures and make judgements or reach conclusions about them.

5th time: A picture will in no way help show that masturbation causes blindness, loss of limbs or that the person who masturbates will end up gay. You have already agreed to this, so why you have now made me repeat it five times is anyone's guess.

You want some government or scientific study to reassure you it is OK to believe this.

All you seem to be able to do is throw accusation while happily ignoring the actual posts anyone else makes. I have asked you what studies you have done, what surveys you have done, what evidence you have, (all of which you refuse to provide), and given that you're not part of government or science, your above statement is moot.

However, when a scientist makes a claim, he provides evidence. That's where you fail.

Because of a reason your "intellect" apparently cannot work out. I am builidng up to it.

Well, it's certainly taking you long enough.

Again, you want a piece of paper saying "masturbation will cause blindness, signed by the authorities". I plainly said there is no such thing.

What I want is evidence. That should be quite apparent by now. However, if all you have is a picture and some personal opinion then we're not going to get anywhere.

I felt it was relevant to show the connection between the penis on the external part of the body, and the heart 2 feet away on the inside of the body. In my travels around the internet, most people believe their penis is something like a pencil that has been superglued to their body. They do not accept that the penis is intimately connected thruout the entire body. Because of this past experience, I felt it would be best to show an undeniable scientific approved correlation between the penis and the heart.

That's fair enough, 10% of impotent people suffer from heart problems. But you fail to see the irrelevance of the actual news report to the weight of your claims. To give an example, it's like this:

You make a claim such as:

"Blowing kisses with your mouth causes you to lose your hearing, grow a third leg, and turn into a transvestite".

Then as apparent evidence show a news article that says:

"By putting a cigarette in your mouth and smoking it, you are much more likely to get lung cancer. That goes to show that the mouth is connected to the lungs".

It is completely without worth.

So, once more for the sake of the deaf: provide evidence, (your research etc), that masturbation makes you go blind in one eye, lose your limbs and turn gay. Thank you.

I did not make a new claim. I responded you your statement that ED had nothing to do with masturbation. I corrected you. I did not put something new forth.

Are you on drugs?

You said:

"I am right that one of the causes of ED can be excessive masturbation".

A new claim from you with no evidence to support it.

What you are doing is saying I have no evidence because you have decided pictures are useless. Why?

Because they are. A photo cannot in any way provide evidence to show masturbation causes blindness, loss of limbs and homosexuality.

While you can happily post a picture of a blind, legless gay man, how would anyone else know that he'd got that way due to masturbation? You have already agreed with this.

Your way of winning a discussing is by shouting down the other people or attacking them personally till they go away.

There's that reference to 'winning' again. Winning what exactly? All I want is some evidence for your claims.

Then, you blatantly lie.

"You have already agreed to this, so you're now just contradicting yourself."

I never said that.

A lie heh? Let's scroll back to the early stages of this discussion shall we?

you said: "If I was to force you to make up your own mind by showing you photos of people damaged by masturbation and teaching you to see the symptoms
yourself, it will be a lot better for you".

I then replied: "Showing photo's wont really help. How would I, you or anyone else know these people got 'damaged' by masturbation and not something else?"

You then said: "Well. I will admit you have a brain in your head. You are probably one of the first people to cut straight to the heart of the matter within minutes instead of days or weeks. You are correct. There is no way that you can verify what I say is masturbation caused damage".

Your apology for calling me a liar accepted in advance. Kindly take the time to pay attention to what you've said and agreed to, and you will avoid problems like this, and indeed save me from having to point it out 6 fucking times.

If you are going to start blatantly lying and putting words in my mouth, this is not going to go anywhere.

I have no intention of doing anything of the sort. All I am doing is awaiting the evidence. Once you provide it I will accept that masturbation will make me turn gay, blind and lose certain limbs and so I will never masturbate again, or let my wife fiddle with me, or indeed ever bonk anyone - because surely sex and masturbation would both cause the same problems? I mean.. does your body know you're using your hand instead of a fanny and as such ensure you go blind? What mechanism exactly distinguishes the difference and causes health problems for just one of them?

At least 50. And when I showed you one piece of the evidence, you immediately said it was worthless and declared my entire theory worthless.

Yes, I did say photos are worthless, and you agreed. However, I haven't outright dismissed your "theory", else I wouldn't still be asking you to provide evidence.

On 1 piece of evidence it took you 1 minute to read. You are rushing to conclusions. If you are truly a doctor, you know that it takes time to examine your patients to reach the proper diagnosis. Or do you look at your patients for 1 minute and write a prescription?

Well, I judge by the weight of the evidence what the best course of action would be. Right now you have provided no evidence, and that's where the problem lies - especially as I have asked you countless times.

You say that as if there is some meaning to it. So what if no one agrees with
me? A room full of people can disagree the sky is blue if they all want to be
assholes to one person who is saying the sky is blue.

And all that person needs to do is provide some evidence and show that all those "assholes" are wrong. What are you waiting for.. christmas?

This is not true.

You can't show us all to be wrong by providing evidence? Hmm.. k

Your attitude is combative and aggressive.

If that's how you deem it to be then fine, but it is of no relevance to my statement that you can show us all to be wrong by providing evidence.

The logical answer is I am not going to be badgered and bullied into rushing into things when you won't even make the first admission that, yes, the scientific study I posted says there is a connection between the penis on the outside of the body, and the heart, 2 feet away, and on the inside of the body.

Well of course there fucking is. The heart is responsible for pumping blood around the body, and the penis requires a lot of blood to get erect. But how you get from there to claiming that masturbation causes blindness, homosexuality and loss of limbs is where the interest lies. Erectile dysfunction and masturbation are two different things, and a heart attack and turning gay are also two different things. What you need to do is understand that fact and concentrate on the claims you made concerning masturbation and it's effects on your eyesight, sexuality and the subsequent loss of your limbs.

You could be right. Except for one thing. You have displayed your hate for everyone.

Everyone? That's a bit of an exaggeration - but yes, I dislike people that make vast claims that they simply refuse to back up. I mean at least if you had have said: "I believe that masturbation makes you turn gay and go blind, but I have absolutely no evidence", I wouldn't have had issues with it. But with all the: "this is how it is, I'm right, everyone else is wrong, I say powerful things", and all the other nonsense that farted it's way out of your mouth, I have had to take exception.

You are an incompetent, nothing more. Far too much ego, not enough education.

 

[leopold]

They do not accept that the penis is intimately connected thruout the entire body. Because of this past experience, I felt it would be best to show an undeniable scientific approved correlation between the penis and the heart


the above quote is yours happeh.
the only connection the penis has with the entire body as you put it is through the endocrine system. and that has to do with the testicles/ovaries.

james r. has politely asked you for some evidence/links to verify your claims could you please post them for our perusal? and please no photographs. why? have you forgotten the jfk coverup?

 

[Happeh]

Everything begins in the mind. It is not really the words that cause the damage, it is you, it is what you think of the words. Ultimately, everything can be controlled. Not even the outside can affect us if we can control ourselves, the inside.

On one level I will agree. The stories of yogis etc can probably do that. I believe that human beings are animals that will react to stimulus. It is an involuntary part of being an animal. Even if you think you do not want to be bothered by something, it can still bother you because you are an animal that always reacts in a certain way.

What does it matter if they assume you're wrong?

Philosophically it does not matter. In real life, it matters. What does it matter that adults molest children? Philosophically, people should be allowed to do what they wish. For the realities of life, most people believe molestation is wrong.

 

[Happeh]

Happeh:

By "authorities", I assume you mean "scientists who have looked for a link between masterbation and blindness".

So, in essence, you are admitting that there is no scientific evidence that excessive masterbation is harmful in any way. Is that correct?

Not directly, no.

But I asked you specifically to provide a link to the relevant article, and you couldn't do it.

I honestly told you I did not keep the link. I offered to post it if I came across the story again. You know? I use google. Usually, if you go to google and key in something like "Erectile Dysfunction Heart Attack" the relevant news article pops right up.

For some odd reason, people would rather say

As far as I can tell, you're just making this up.

Instead of taking the 10 seconds I just did to search google and find a link

http://www.medpagetoday.com/Cardiology/AcuteCoronarySyndrome/tb/2367

From my point of view, people want to be difficult, or they want me to do their work for them. Seriously. It took 10 seconds to key those words into Google search and press enter.

 

[Happeh]

5th time: A picture will in no way help show that masturbation causes blindness, loss of limbs or that the person who masturbates will end up gay. You have already agreed to this, so why you have now made me repeat it five times is anyone's guess.

Becuase you are being obtuse. You are purposefully, for someone who is smart enough to be a doctor, refusing to acknowledge that a series of photos can be examined for various phenomenon. A catalog of those phenomenon could then be made. Guesses as to why the phenomenon occurred can then be made. It is called science. But for some reason, you act as if it is the most bizarre thing you have ever heard.

What I want is evidence. That should be quite apparent by now. However, if all you have is a picture and some personal opinion then we're not going to get anywhere.

I literally said Hallelujah when I read this. Now I can let it go. If you are so stubborn as to refuse to agree that pictures of ailments cannot be used to make various judgements, then there is nothing further to talk about.

I wonder. If someone comes to you with a picture of a person with 3rd degree burns, do you tell them that the picture proves nothing, that you must see the person in real life? That makes no sense. It sounds like you just want to be trouble.

So, once more for the sake of the deaf: provide evidence, (your research etc), that masturbation makes you go blind in one eye, lose your limbs and turn gay. Thank you.

Nope. There is no point. You cannot learn. If it is not governement signed and stamped, you refuse to believe it. People like you let Tony Blair bomb Iraq. You believe what he says without question. You refuse to think for yourselves about anything that requires you to take responsibility for the outcome.

Are you on drugs?

Are you selling?

Because they are. A photo cannot in any way provide evidence to show masturbation causes blindness, loss of limbs and homosexuality.

This is foolishness. This is like saying that a picture of a person with dark charcoal marks on the skin with livid red flesh underneath is not evidence a person has been burned. I really cannot conceive how you can make such a statement.

While you can happily post a picture of a blind, legless gay man, how would anyone else know that he'd got that way due to masturbation? You have already agreed with this.

A lie heh? Let's scroll back to the early stages of this discussion shall we?

you said: "If I was to force you to make up your own mind by showing you photos of people damaged by masturbation and teaching you to see the symptoms
yourself, it will be a lot better for you".

I then replied: "Showing photo's wont really help. How would I, you or anyone else know these people got 'damaged' by masturbation and not something else?"

You then said: "Well. I will admit you have a brain in your head. You are probably one of the first people to cut straight to the heart of the matter within minutes instead of days or weeks. You are correct. There is no way that you can verify what I say is masturbation caused damage".

Your apology for calling me a liar accepted in advance. Kindly take the time to pay attention to what you've said and agreed to, and you will avoid problems like this, and indeed save me from having to point it out 6 fucking times.

You are twisting words. Again. When I say "I cannot verify it", I am speaking of the government signed affidavit approving your right to think that you so desperately need. I am not talking about the pictures. The pictures are proof to me. They could be for you if you could be bothered to take the time to learn about what you are looking at.

I mean.. does your body know you're using your hand instead of a fanny and as such ensure you go blind? What mechanism exactly distinguishes the difference and causes health problems for just one of them?

The vagina completely encircles the penis and exerts a relatively even pressure on the surface of the penis. The hand usually does not completely encircle the penis, and applies uneven pressure to the surface of the penis because of the strength differences between the various fingers.

Everyone? That's a bit of an exaggeration - but yes, I dislike people that make vast claims that they simply refuse to back up. I mean at least if you had have said: "I believe that masturbation makes you turn gay and go blind, but I have absolutely no evidence", I wouldn't have had issues with it. But with all the: "this is how it is, I'm right, everyone else is wrong, I say powerful things", and all the other nonsense that farted it's way out of your mouth, I have had to take exception.

You are an incompetent, nothing more. Far too much ego, not enough education.

Not even close. You need a government document before you believe anything. You have no patience at all. You have stomped on me with every post, and this is maybe 3 days in a row of communication. You are not willing to listen to anything I have to say. You out of hand reject evidence that science uses all the time to reach conclusions.

If a person is murdered, the police take pictures of all aspects of the crime. Then they go back to the lab where the science of forensics is used to examine the photos to decide what might have happened. To you or me, what those forensics guys find looks like it is lies or bullshit. That is because we are not trained. They are trained to know what to look for.

That is why I think it is foolish of you to disregard photos of people. I am telling you that anyone can be trained to see if they take the time. It is nothing special, just training like training in forensics to analyze crime photos.

 

[Happeh]

the above quote is yours happeh.
the only connection the penis has with the entire body as you put it is through the endocrine system. and that has to do with the testicles/ovaries.

That is an incorrect view of the human body. That is what I mean when I say that western doctors and scientists are incompetents.

james r. has politely asked you for some evidence/links to verify your claims could you please post them for our perusal? and please no photographs. why? have you forgotten the jfk coverup?

I will tell you the same thing I told snakelord. I don't prove things with documents signed by your gods. I lead people to see what I do. I teach them to see what I do. I don't want you to believe me. I want you to believe your own two eyes.