Masturbation is for Losers

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Everyone that is certain I am wrong just kind of ignores the scientific study connecting the penis, thru erectile dysfunction, with the heart.

Can you please post some references, so I can read more about these links?

Thanks.
 
Now now Happeh, keep your pants on. I'm still here and will get to your attempt at a post in about 8 hours.

Just like all the other boards, it suddenly goes dead quiet.

You know, you made this post 4 minutes after your other post. What do you expect? lol. It's a forum, not a chatroom. As such there will often be 'moments of silence'.. that last slightly longer than 4 minutes.

We'll talk in a bit.
 
I love it. Exact same reaction I get on every board.
Just like all the other boards, it suddenly goes dead quiet.


So, everyone else on the internet is wrong and you are right?

So predictable. Instead of being strong enough to admit a mistake, they run away, hoping no one saw they were wrong.

Or, you're a nutjob and everyone on the internet is ignoring you.

I wonder which of the above two are more reasonable? Hmmm...
 
Just the truth. Believe it or not. Makes no difference to me.

But of course it makes a difference to you. Like you stated earlier, you want to be rich and famous, (lol), and need a professional to help you do it. As a result of that, it should be of utmost importance to you that I believe you.

I will happily believe you if you can show evidence for your claims. What surveys have you conducted, what tests have you done etc?

What I find interesting is, although you are certain I am incorrect, you offer no other alternative for why people have erectile dysfunction.

There's a very valid reason for that: We weren't talking about erectile dysfunction. What we were talking about was you providing evidence that masturbation leads to blindness in one eye, loss of limbs and a turn to homosexuality.

What you did instead was provide an irrelevant news article. I'm still trying to work out why.

I am right that one of the causes of ED can be excessive masturbation.

Eh? This is a new claim from you, and much like the blindness etc claims, you now have to provide evidence for this new one. However, having come to know your personality quite well in this thread it stands to reason that you will never ever provide any.

Several years back I made a statement on this forum to which someone then requested evidence. I got up, got the evidence, and within half an hour had presented it for them. They said thanks and that was the end of that.

It really is that simple, and yet you just can't do it, instead dragging me along on your fantastical journey of making claim after claim after claim that have absolutely no substance.

Believe me.

If you provide the evidence. I swear you must be blind or just incredibly ignorant, I've said this 100 times now.

There you go shooting your mouth off again.

Alas that is all you have done in this entire thread. I told you ages ago there is no need for any of this, provide evidence and we're done. Do you understand yet?

You have no idea about my research. We met last week. You know nothing of what I have done and nothing of what I learned.

Which is not a surprise considering my repeated requests have gone ignored. So, Happeh, what research have you done? What have you learnt, and where did you learn it from?

You plainly say you will not do any thinking on your own. You say you will only accept some proof from someone you approve of.

I will accept proof from anyone - yes even you. The only problem here is that you wont provide any.

You disregard the pictures because you know that there is a chance I could prove myself right.

For the fourth time now: Photos in this instance are of no value. They cannot be considered as evidence that masturbation causes blindness etc. You have already agreed to this, so you're now just contradicting yourself.

And if I did that would mean you would be wrong. In front of everyone.

I have given, and am still giving you ample opportunity to do so. I wonder if anyone would care to count how many times I have asked you for evidence in this thread.

The fact of the matter is that nobody here agrees with you. You can prove us all wrong by supplying the evidence. It's no longer a case of just showing me to be wrong, but all of us. Surely that would be a supreme victory for you, so I can only wonder why you haven't taken the opportunity. The logical answer is simply that you cant.

Nice try coward. I win.

Win what?

About 20 haters and blowhards are all shouting about how I am wrong.

Yeah, and 1 ignorant little buffoon shouting about how he's right, everyone else is wrong and yet somehow he's completely unable to produce any evidence to support his idiotic claims.

Then I post some corroborative evidence.

Where??

Everyone that is certain I am wrong just kind of ignores the scientific study connecting the penis, thru erectile dysfunction, with the heart.

How does any of that come across as being evidence that masturbation makes you go blind, lose your limbs and turn gay?

They just kind of ignore that I said masturbation can cause heart attack among many other symptoms.

So provide evidence that masturbation causes heart attack. Erectile dysfunction is not masturbation you silly little boy.
 
(Possible Causes of Impotence / Erectile Disfunction (ED)
There are many factors that can cause impotence. Certain medications and drugs, such as alcohol, cigarettes, antidepressants, antihistamines, antihypertentives, blood pressure medication, chemotherapy, diuretics, narcotics, nicotine, sedatives, steroids (if abused), stomach acid inhibitors and ulcer medications, can all interfere with normal erectile function.

Certain ailments may contribute to ED such as, atherosclerosis, clogged arteries, peripheral vascular disease, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, hormonal imbalance, diabetes, psychological stress, low sperm count, depression, illness and lack of desire for one’s partner. An estimated 50 percent of all males with diabetes suffer from impotence, and the other 50 percent will most likely become impotent over time.)
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Nope nothing there about wanking your snouser causes ED.

About 20 haters and blowhards are all shouting about how I am wrong. They all shout they need proof. I lead them along to fully expose their hate and close mindedness. Then I post some corroborative evidence.

Been looking at yourself in the mirror lately? The only blowhard here it appears is you!! BTW the above is from holistic website.

**( Dr Viljoen said that there are many underlying physical and psychological causes of erectile dysfunction. "Reduced blood flow to the penis and nerve damage are the most common physical causes. Underlying conditions associated with erectile dysfunction include the following: Vascular disease; diabetes; drugs; hormone disorders; neurologic conditions and psychological conditions," he said.

Dr Viljoen said that psychological conditions such as depression, guilt, worry, stress, and anxiety all contribute to loss of libido and erectile dysfunction. "If a man experiences loss of erection, he may worry that it will happen again. This can produce anxiety associated with performance and may lead to chronic problems during sex. If the cycle is inescapable, it can result in impotence. Psychological factors in impotence are often secondary to physical causes, and they magnify their significance," he added.

Drew Voight)**click

And the above from a doctor.

Are you a doctor?.

M*W is a registered nurse BTW! Pendejo!!

Godless
 
Lori_7 said:
Hey Godless,

Stop calling my home a dump. It's my home. Do you understand what I'm saying? Stop it. I'm not debating with you...I'm asking you to stop trying to belittle me by calling my home a dump.
hey godless my home is a dump, a goddamn pigsty any questions?
 
Happeh said:
I am right that one of the causes of ED can be excessive masturbation.
i must admit happeh does have a point. when i jack off my dick goes limp for about an hour.
 
hey godless my home is a dump, a goddamn pigsty any questions?

You should move in with Lori! (just kidding) :D

Ya!shall see my place. Since I own this puppy he shits everywhere. :D

Godless
 
Happs evidence:

He's blind in one eye, loss of limbs and is gay! damn that's it. That's how he knows this to be true. He must of wanked off lots more than we ever, ever have. :)

Godless
 
evidence supporting happehs claims are suspiciously lacking.

and he says WHAT I SAY IS POWERFUL
that remark alone says volumes
 
James R said:
Can you please post some references, so I can read more about these links?

Thanks.

I didn't keep the link, just the story. I saw it pop up on Google again. If I see it, I will try to remember to keep a link for you.

This was not the evidence I was really talking about. I was talking about examining pictures of real people so people could see for themselves what symptoms I am discussing. I put this news article up because I chanced upon it.
 
(Q) said:
I love it. Exact same reaction I get on every board.
Just like all the other boards, it suddenly goes dead quiet.


So, everyone else on the internet is wrong and you are right?

About this particular subject. So far.

So predictable. Instead of being strong enough to admit a mistake, they run away, hoping no one saw they were wrong.

(Q) said:
Or, you're a nutjob and everyone on the internet is ignoring you.

I wonder which of the above two are more reasonable? Hmmm...

I personally feel it is more reasonable to believe that doctors are liars and I am right. Doctors are paid big money to lie. I get absolutely nothing for my opinions. I have no bias or no vested interest. Didn't you hear about Vioxx? Scientists took bribes to cover up research. Those guys will do anything, including giving out false health information, for money.

You know it is true. You just watched George Bush tell the biggest lie of the century about Iraq. In the history books of the future, there will be a chapter on the biggest lie of the 20th century. It will be the Israeli controlled George Bush saying that Iraq had WMD, and the subsequent invasion and mass murder of the Iraqi populace.

Those guys will lie about anything. I have no motive to lie.
 
I didn't have time to look at all 20 pages of the mudslinging.
Facts from the scientific community say the following:
http://www.afraidtoask.com/masturbate/MedView.htm

Facts from the metaphysical religious holistic body/spirit community will say the following: (they want to sell their product)
http://www.herballove.com/library/resource/overmas/

Here is a site that is sort of a clearing house for all opinions.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/masturba.htm#menu
Each person must make up their own minds on this issue.

I will say that for me to not masterbate was causing more physical and mental problems than to masterbate and I've spent years following Happeh, Christian right, dictates...not to say they are wrong by any means... Just to say at this point in my journey I will masterbate and perhaps later I will again not masterbate.

Please stop all the personal pride and hot air that is being typed on all sides and stick strictly to the facts.
Each must make up their own minds and live with the consequences.
To say one person is wrong and another is right does not promote a calm informative dialogue between us but only attacks the person and sets up prideful accusations without any information towards the original subject being forwarded for successful discussion.
Stop wasting server space please and my time having to filter through all of the prideful fluff. Thank you!
But thank you, for making me so frustrated that I found my own answers and furthered my knowledge on the subject to make my own informative decision on the subject of masterbation. The above links are but a few of the links I've searched. I found them to be good at expressing all points of view and leading to other sites with information.
 
SnakeLord said:
But of course it makes a difference to you. Like you stated earlier, you want to be rich and famous, (lol), and need a professional to help you do it. As a result of that, it should be of utmost importance to you that I believe you.

Sure. That would be great. Win the lottery, get rich and famous for pointing out the obvious. Why should I feel guilty about that? If I went to college, i would expect money for my training. Why is it bad to expect some kind of payment for the training and study time for my theory?

SnakeLord said:
I will happily believe you if you can show evidence for your claims. What surveys have you conducted, what tests have you done etc?.

No you won't. You said you will not inspect pictures and make judgements or reach conclusions about them. You want some government or scientific study to reassure you it is OK to believe this. You don't want to look at evidence ad make your own decision. Those were your own words.

SnakeLord said:
There's a very valid reason for that: We weren't talking about erectile dysfunction. What we were talking about was you providing evidence that masturbation leads to blindness in one eye, loss of limbs and a turn to homosexuality.

What you did instead was provide an irrelevant news article. I'm still trying to work out why.

Because of a reason your "intellect" apparently cannot work out. I am builidng up to it. Again, you want a piece of paper saying "masturbation will cause blindness, signed by the authorities". I plainly said there is no such thing.

In the process of teaching you, I felt it was relevant to show the connection between the penis on the external part of the body, and the heart 2 feet away on the inside of the body. In my travels around the internet, most people believe their penis is something like a pencil that has been superglued to their body. They do not accept that the penis is intimately connected thruout the entire body. Because of this past experience, I felt it would be best to show an undeniable scientific approved correlation between the penis and the heart. Something that most people in my experience would be very surprised to hear.

SnakeLord said:
Eh? This is a new claim from you, and much like the blindness etc claims, you now have to provide evidence for this new one. However, having come to know your personality quite well in this thread it stands to reason that you will never ever provide any.

I did not make a new claim. I responded you your statement that ED had nothing to do with masturbation. I corrected you. I did not put something new forth.

SnakeLord said:
I will accept proof from anyone - yes even you. The only problem here is that you wont provide any.


For the fourth time now: Photos in this instance are of no value. They cannot be considered as evidence that masturbation causes blindness etc. You have already agreed to this, so you're now just contradicting yourself.

Look Bozo. You are lying and you don't even see it. See those two statements above? They are yours. Now follow this very carefully. First you say.

"I will accept proof from anyone - yes even you"

Then you say, remember, pay close attention

"Photos in this instance are of no value."

What you are doing is saying I have no evidence because you have decided pictures are useless. Why? Who are you to say pictures are useless? You haven't seen a one of them. You have no idea what they show. Yet you know for a fact they are useless. You make no sense at all. Your way of winning a discussing is by shouting down the other people or attacking them personally till they go away.

Then, you blatantly lie.

"You have already agreed to this, so you're now just contradicting yourself."

I never said that. That is how you learn, by looking at other people. If you don't have people, then pictures are second best. If you are going to start blatantly lying and putting words in my mouth, this is not going to go anywhere.

SnakeLord said:
I have given, and am still giving you ample opportunity to do so. I wonder if anyone would care to count how many times I have asked you for evidence in this thread.

At least 50. And when I showed you one piece of the evidence, you immediately said it was worthless and declared my entire theory worthless. On 1 piece of evidence it took you 1 minute to read. You are rushing to conclusions. If you are truly a doctor, you know that it takes time to examine your patients to reach the proper diagnosis. Or do you look at your patients for 1 minute and write a prescription? Are you one of those doctors whose job it is to get rid of people as fast and as cheaply as possible so the hospital stays profitable?

SnakeLord said:
The fact of the matter is that nobody here agrees with you.

You say that as if there is some meaning to it. So what if no one agrees with me? A room full of people can disagree the sky is blue if they all want to be assholes to one person who is saying the sky is blue. A majority opinion is nothing more than a herd of cattle mooing.

SnakeLord said:
You can prove us all wrong by supplying the evidence.

This is not true. Your attitude is combative and aggressive. This is not a learning situation at all. Anything I supply will be attacked by you as useless. You will not try to work with me to see if we can interpret between our different world views.

SnakeLord said:
It's no longer a case of just showing me to be wrong, but all of us. Surely that would be a supreme victory for you, so I can only wonder why you haven't taken the opportunity. The logical answer is simply that you cant.

The logical answer is I am not going to be badgered and bullied into rushing into things when you won't even make the first admission that, yes, the scientific study I posted says there is a connection between the penis on the outside of the body, and the heart, 2 feet away, and on the inside of the body. If you agree with that conclusion, then we can move on to more proof. If you do not agree with that conclusion, there is not much point in me continuing.

SnakeLord said:
Yeah, and 1 ignorant little buffoon shouting about how he's right, everyone else is wrong and yet somehow he's completely unable to produce any evidence to support his idiotic claims.

You could be right. Except for one thing. You have displayed your hate for everyone. We have still not proved that I, as you claim, am a buffoon. That has not been conclusively proved yet.

SnakeLord said:
So provide evidence that masturbation causes heart attack. Erectile dysfunction is not masturbation you silly little boy.

You should try acting like a silly little boy sometime. Maybe you will be a happier and a nicer person. The act you portray for the outside world does not necessarily reflect the real you. Did you know that? It is called acting. You give people one thing, but you are another person entirely.
 
Godless said:
Nope nothing there about wanking your snouser causes ED.

What part of "doctors and scientists are incompetents or liars" don't you understand?


Godless said:
Are you a doctor?.

Nope

Godless said:
M*W is a registered nurse BTW! Pendejo!!
Godless

So what? George Bush is president of the USA. He still lied about Iraq. Harold Shipman was a doctor. He murdered tens of people in Britain. How many nurses do you know of who are in jail now for killing patients?

Believing in a persons office instead of what they say is a mistake. Sure I am nobody. Talk to me and you will find out I know stuff. They may be official doctors or nurses, but they do not have a clue what I am talking about. That means they are incompetent or uninformed. I will be benevolent and say they have been played for fools.
 
leopold99 said:
i must admit happeh does have a point. when i jack off my dick goes limp for about an hour.

I know of a book that would teach you to find more things also.
 
leopold99 said:
evidence supporting happehs claims are suspiciously lacking.

and he says WHAT I SAY IS POWERFUL

That remark really stuck in your head didn't it? If you are interested, you can learn about the phenomenon. That is more positive than making remarks here.

It is a way of speaking by people who believe life works in a certain way. All you have to do if find one of these people, politely ask them to explain their view of life, then begin to mimic them. It is easy.
 
finewine said:
I didn't have time to look at all 20 pages of the mudslinging.
Facts from the scientific community say the following:
http://www.afraidtoask.com/masturbate/MedView.htm


This link is lies. It is factually inaccurate. That is my part of this discussion. I think it is irresponsible to post this and say "There, the discussion is settled".

The bottom link is helpful. If you go to that page and look at the "medical masturbation opinions of the past, you will find that in the 1800's, some guys said that masturbation will cause the same symptoms Happeh Theory says masturbation will cause.

Thanks for the link. It is more corroborative evidence for my collection.
 
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finewine said:
Facts from the metaphysical religious holistic body/spirit community will say the following: (they want to sell their product)
http://www.herballove.com/library/resource/overmas/

Then you dismiss these people as "wanting to sell product". I cannot argue with "wanting to sell product". I do not know the people. What I can say though is that they are correct in what they say about masturbation being detrimental.

My problem is you are saying "here is the views, let people decide what they want". Then you guide people by saying "But this view is crooks wanting to sell things".

I am here, in this discussion, to specifically prove the first group is incompetent or liars, and that the second group is correct. That is what the discussion is about.

What is the point of a science forums if we say "Here is links to all the opinions about this material. No discussion needed"? The point for the existence of the board is to discuss science. To go back and forth about an issue we disagree on. You could make this same post in the Telepathy topic or the Energy topic or any other topic.

"Someone else already talked it out. You are wasting my time by talking about it more".
 
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