Originally posted by whatsupyall
wow! iM IMPRESSED! YOU QUOTE ALL OF THEM EVIDENCE SO FAR KID! cONGRATS! YOUR NOT LIKE FRENCHY AND OTHERS....
Proof of God
1) The universe exists= So complex, so detailed, yet functioning, ORDERED, NOT CHAOS, but DESIGNED, all working in harmony. (predators, omnivors, air, plants to cleanse the air, fertilization, weather, death, life, etc.).. A DESIGN....
That is subjective interpretation. What if the concept of "design" really has no application besides to describe what a conscious energy does when manipulating systems. You're correct that it may SEEM however it does to you, but that does not make it so. It seems that you have a simplistic and presumptuous perspective.
2) People have testified belief= One or three could make up lies, VERY UNLIKELY FOR BILLIONS TO MAKE UP LIES WITHOUT FINANCIAL GAIN...Very unlikely indeed for billions to lie, and who accuse them of lying? YOU? WHO ARE YOU?
People aren't that bright, you are making that point. People are gullable, but have genuine needs. If I set my mind to it I could give you a convincing argument like "intelligent design" (which may have the merit of common sense, but it is a sort of simplistic assumption from a creature that must think itself quite wise.
The billions aren't making up the lies, they're just buying into them and spreading them because they are weak and the strong manipulate them. Come to my house on Sunday. You give me money, I give you salvation. Wow.. that's mental crack.
3) God exists otherwise King Henry/Shakepeare never did either= Yes, there is the same valid proof for the existence of God, as there is for King Henry and shakespeare, you cant really prove they exist (u may call them "waldo" or giant purple squid monkey), but bottom line is they have the same amount of valid evidence......
That is an interesting proof you're referring to... I read it. Pretty cool, that guy had his shit together. I would say though that the entire argument is not applicable to the problem of religion or god. If you employe it as proof of god you are going from a to z without giving a shit if there is an alphabet to consider. It's poor investigation. You should try harder that selling out.
4) People have died for religion= WHY WOULD YOU LIE AND SAY "GOD SPOKE TO ME" THEN BE FED BY LIONS, OR TORTURED TO DEATH? WHY WOULD MILLIONS DO THAT? ARE MILLIONMS INSANE? AND A LIAR? WHY WOULD THEY GIVE UP THEIR RICHES FOR THEIR FAITH IF THERE IS NOTHING GENUINE ABOUT IT?
People will die for that which they earnestly believe in, they will die for what protects their family, and they will die for what the strong tell them to, for they are sheep, like you whatsup. now, I can't tell you what to do, you've already been told and baby, you're holding onto it with a death grip. It's your salvation, it can't be false right? You hold on to that salvation, it will surely reap the wisdom you would rob from others with your ignorant rant.
5) 99% of universities founded by Christians= Thus proving that Christians are much smarter (UNLIKE THE LIES ATHEISTS SPREAD, CLAIMING THAT WE ARE IGNORANT ABO[UT SCIENCE WHEN THE FACT IS OPPOSITE...)
Okay, that's just not applicable. You show no evidence of being able to discern a lie.
6) Healing, miracles, and other supernatural claims= yes, this are PHYSICAL AND SUBSTANCIAL PROOF OF THE EXISTENCE OF GOD.. You have Lady of Guadalupe cactus cloth. You have bleeding statues. You have healing of incurable cancers through FAITH AND/OR PRAYERS TO GOD, CHRISTIANS OR NOT, LIKE JESUS SAID "THEIR FAITH HEALED THEM"....
Again you go from A to Z and say "screw the alphabet, I'm super smart". To me, you don't look so smart.
7) Random chance cannot form computers, nor life= EXACTLY! THERE IS NO PROOF THAT SOMETHING AS COMPLEX, DETAILED AND FUNCTIONING AS A COMPUTER CAN EXIST BY THE STRIKES OF LIGHTNING, EARTHQUAKE, ETC. (PHYSICS), NEVERTHLESS THE WHOLE UNIVERSE IS EVEN FAR MORE COMPLEX THAN A COMPUTER....
No, but a human mind or group thereof apparently can. By what do you gauge your claim of complexity? Because the pretty lights dazzle you? Don't you understand that while impressive to us, since we are us, humans are really barely conscious, depending on how you look at it? I mean, pretend there is some kind of omnipresent being, now, imagine what your pidly little brain does in comparison. Can you not see by your own claim you could not possible comprehend that which it is you propose to have direct evidence of? Why then would your "proof" hold any bearing on that which is so far superior to you? Is it that difficult to admit that you may not know that which is unknowable? Man, that's annoying. Think about it.
8) Intelligent design= yes, that everything that exist, from bi9ological existence, through technological existence is PROVEN TO EXIST BY INTELLIGENT CAUSE, A FACT YOU CANNOT REFUTE....
You have done nothing but make retarded claims. You have presented NO FACTS TO REFUTE.
SUMMARY= I HAVE GIVEN SUBSTANCIAL EVIDENCE, CURRENT AND HISTORICAL. NOT ONLY THAT, I HAVE ALSO DISPROVEN THE ATHESTS CLAIM OF "CHANCE"...
WHAT MORE CAN I GIVE?
How about: "up."
WHAT MORE?
Okay, open that brain a crack. Well, I hate to be negative, but I doubt you're able.
WHAT ELSE IS THERE?
Endless possibility.
IF GOD IS STILL A MYTH BECAUSE THAT IS HOW INCREDIBLY STUPID YOU ARE, THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS A MYTH...................
Stupid? Please. I'm kind of a dick, but definately not stupid.
PERIOD..........