Israeli/Hamas disregard for human life.

[fedr808]

Genetic evidence shows Palestinians are descendents of a core population that has lived there since neolithic timesThat doesnt prove anything other than people lived there that long ago.. Judiasm is only 4000 years old5700 someodd plus years. and genetic evidence indicates Jews are closer to Kurds Dude, kurds are a sect of Islam, last i checked Islam is not that old.than any other ethnic group.Judaism is the oldest surviving ethnic group. Live with it.

My science beats your mythology.You know what science is? i think you deserve a clap. But the fact is ive actually seen the scrolls that bear testament to how long atleast the Jews were in Israel.

Hence you're pwned.Pwned? this isnt a video game this is real life it is serious.

I laugh at you.

 

[S.A.M.]

I laugh at you.

Read and weep.



Here's a summary of the conclusion

"According to historical records part, or perhaps the majority,
of the Moslem Arabs in this country descended
from local inhabitants, mainly Christians and Jews, who
had converted after the Islamic conquest in the seventh
century AD (Shaban 1971; Mc Graw Donner 1981).
These local inhabitants, in turn, were descendants of the
core population that had lived in the area for several centuries,
some even since prehistorical times (Gil 1992). On
the other hand, the ancestors of the great majority of present-
day Jews lived outside this region for almost two
millennia. Thus, our findings are in good agreement with
historical evidence and suggest genetic continuity in both
populations despite their long separation"

http://img2.tapuz.co.il/forums/1_107932279.pdf

 

[fedr808]

"According to historical records part, or perhaps the majority,
of the Moslem Arabs in this country descended
from local inhabitants, mainly Christians and JewsIf they descended after the Jews and Christians that means that the Jews and Christiands HAD to have prosceded them. duh., who
had converted after the Islamic conquest in the seventh
century AD Jews were there for 2700+ years earlier than that.(Shaban 1971; Mc Graw Donner 1981).
These local inhabitants, in turn, were descendants of the
core population which is not as you think Muslim but Jewsh, because is was already discussed that the Jews were there earlier, and also, the Jews made up the majority of the popultation before they were exiled which means they were the core population.that had lived in the area for several centuries,
some even since prehistorical times thank you for helping me argue my point.(Gil 1992). On
the other hand, the ancestors of the great majority of present-
day Jews lived outside this region for almost two
millennia.What didnt you get about 2,000 years "exile"? Thus, our findings are in good agreement with
historical evidence and suggest genetic continuity in both
populations despite their long separation"
http://img2.tapuz.co.il/forums/1_107932279.pdf

All this proves is that the Romans did not exile every Jew, some stayed behind and these were the foundations of the Palestinian presence in Israel.

 

[S.A.M.]

Except that Jews are genetically closer to Kurds than any other ethnic group.

And your Torah says Abraham was born in Ur, which is Iraq.

Unless you think Abraham was pre-Neolithic times?

 

[fedr808]

Except that Jews are genetically closer to Kurds than any other ethnic group. Kurds are followers of Islam you dumb moron, Judaism preceded that by millennia. end of story

And your Torah says Abraham was born in Ur, which is IraqAnd you really want to argue against my points with that? A religious text? and i thought you were a scientist..

Unless you think Abraham was pre-Neolithic times?Well that depends, do you have his body or a time machine?

Dude, your just giving me more ammunition to fire at you .

 

[S.A.M.]

Dude, your just giving me more ammunition to fire at you .

Kurds are not ethnically Muslim. Genetics is not religion.

What they ethnically are, is native to the North Fertile Crescent. Far far away from Palestine.

 

[fedr808]

Kurds are not ethnically Muslim. Genetics is not religion.

What they ethnically are, is native to the North Fertile Crescent. Far far away from Palestine.

So what? Who cares? Americans arent native to USA, most come from Europe, does it matter? no?

So who cares where the Israelites were from?

P.S. genetics tells you where a person came from genetically, they dont tell where they come fromlike a gps unit.

Kurds could have always eben in Israel at some time.

 

[pjdude1219]

The Jews have occupied the area longer than the Palestinians.

Here is the proof.

The Jews were kicked out of Israel by the romans almost 2,000 years ago.

After that your so called Palestinians *cough nomads* moved in

Than they renamed Israel, to Palestine.

Since the term Palestinian only applies to those whom dwelled in Palestine, and Palestine only existed after the Jews had already existed in Israel. Than the Jews would have had been there longer.

Try and refute this.

Your argument is based on semantics and language rather than law and logic. I don't think it would be kind to go after someone that desperate.

 

[(Q)]

Kurds are not ethnically Muslim. Genetics is not religion.

You should explain that to the rest of the Muslims who believe Islam is genetics.

 

[(Q)]

My science beats your mythology.

What about your mythology?

 

[Exeter]

This makes no real sense. If you have something to say, say it. I am not psychic.

What I am saying makes all the sense in the World. If this all sounds cryptic to you, it is because the truth of the matter is so clouded in predjudice and mis-information that this discourse we are having is reduced to an exercise in futility. In fact you have already stated my view out of being cornered into a double view of the Jews. Jews are o.k. however Israel is not. The Jew you see now is not the Jew I see in the future. And the future is Israel, like it or not. I will not let my vision be clouded by endless condemnation by either side. within this topic, the truth will always cut to the bone. don't constantly look to the past, but face the reality and ask different questions. Ones that possibly have not occured to you.

 

[Exeter]

You must read some fascinating fiction. Pre-Zionist Jewish travellers have reported the lack of land available because they were all under cultivation by Plaestinians. Their olive orchards are the stuff of legend and go back to before biblical times. The age of their trees ( the ones not bulldozed by the Jews) is mute testimony to their history.

What Palistinians? Do you know what you are even talking about? There is no such thing as "Palistinians." This is one of the non-issues. get real. you are going by all these false hopes that only breed more strife. Have a little talk with Hamas, maybe that will help. as for America, I'm embarassed at my country's involvement in the fashion displayed. I just wanted to through that in for good measure.

 

[spidergoat]

Also, what concrete proof is there of Israel having nukes? Other than a faulty satelite, and maybe a scientist that worked at a nuclear facility (no reason is stated why he was fired, could it be psychological reasons?). There is no concrete proof.

The Israelis have been careful to provide none, however, it is assumed to be true by every country on Earth, based on testimony from former scientists. Plausable deniability, they can't object to Iran's weapons if they have already made public their own.

 

[S.A.M.]

So what? Who cares? Americans arent native to USA, most come from Europe, does it matter? no?.

By your logic, they should all return there, like Jews and have no right to where they live. Not even after 2000 years

What Palistinians? Do you know what you are even talking about?

The people that, according to genetic studies, have lived there since neolithic times.

 

[fedr808]

Big whup, do you really think it maeks a difference?

Do you really think you are going to expel the Jews by preaching that crap?

Jews own Israel NOW. END OF STORY, THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THE F*** THEY WANT ON THEIR OWN LAND END OF STORY

 

[Zakariya04]

Israeli politics is not a dictatorship.

He only really holds as much power as the house or senate majority leaders in the US.

But he is the king maker at the moment and he did say that Israel should bomb the Aswan Dam which in effect is wiping Egypt off the map.??

So this nutjob is going to hold a very important position in ppwer.

Just imagine if an iranian had said the same thing vis a vis Israel (oh gosh Ahmendijad alledgely has through false translations- bearing in mind Ahmendijad is not a dcitator either) what was the reaction of Israel - oh yes thats it - to milk the false translation for political gain!!!

So the Irseali power broker wants to wipe Egypt off the map...

 

[pjdude1219]

Big whup, do you really think it maeks a difference?

Do you really think you are going to expel the Jews by preaching that crap?

Jews own Israel NOW. END OF STORY, THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THE F*** THEY WANT ON THEIR OWN LAND END OF STORY

Actually no they can't. You see their is this little thing called international law.

 

[fedr808]

Actually no they can't. You see their is this little thing called international law.

Yet countries like Iran and Iraq (prior to 1990) love to break it all the time. So why is it that you argue about Israel, oh yeah, its full of Jews. I should have figured it out considering your screen name.


And yet there is still no one to prove with rock solid concrete proof that Israel has one nuclear device.

 

[StrawDog]

Also, what concrete proof is there of Israel having nukes? Other than a faulty satelite, and maybe a scientist that worked at a nuclear facility (no reason is stated why he was fired, could it be psychological reasons?). There is no concrete proof.

Yes there is my friend. Israel already had a nuke back in the early 80`s. Fact. How do I know this?

Shalom

 

[fedr808]

Yes there is my friend. Israel already had a nuke back in the early 80`s. Fact. How do I know this?

Shalom

How do you know this? hello?

How is hello and answer?

Are you okay? did you hit you fall down? Did you fall down and hit your head on something hard?
Were you dropped as a baby? or a better question is, how many times were you dropped on your head?