Israeli/Hamas disregard for human life.
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The United States of America did not exist before some colonials inhabited it either. Does that mean native Americans have no right to live there?
Your logic is racist and colonialist.
Palestine has existed since Roman times. The people of Palestine have existed since neolithic times. The Jews came from first, Iraq, then Egypt and have as much "native" right as the Romans.
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I was there a long time ago, lived there until I was 3.
Dear Forrest,
No, you flunk. Again.
(http://www.mythsandfacts.com/Conflict/10/Resolution-181.pdf)
So in 1947, your so called Trans Jordan was no longer an option to create a homeland for the Palestinians in Palestine under UN181.
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Israel existed before Roman time, and existed after Roman time, just because some Roman Emperor changed the name, doesn't mean that the Land wasn't still Israel, land of the Jews.
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Exactly, it was the Palestinian State, it was the Home Land of the Palestinians.
The Jews came there just like the Romans. besides no one is arguing against the right of Palestinian Jews to stay in Palestine
But Europeans Russians and Americans are not, by definition, Palestinian.
Religion is not the basis of a state. Nativity is.
Preventing Palestinians from living on their own land and giving it away to foreign Jews is against human rights.
You will love it. Go to tel aviv the beaches are beautiful. The dead sea is also awesome.
You can sit cross legged and the water will come up to your belly button
P.S, what proof is there of Palestinians as defined as Palestinians today existed in Israel?
I mean considering that the common assumption is that Palestinians are classified as Islamic.
And wthe two bibles conclude that Islam eventually blossomed from one of the sons of Abraham, that means that the Israelites whom were already well established would of reached Israel first.
P.S. the oldest Jewish bible in Israel is 2,000 years old and that one even states that the Jews had been living there for a very long, long, long time.
There is no concrete proof that the Palestinians were there before that.
Genetic studies done on Palestinians show that they are descended from a core population that lived there from Neolithic times. Studies comparing Palestinians and Jews from the region show a recent common ancestor. Most likely, Palestinians are those natives who converted to Christianity and Islam (not all of them since there are also Palestinian Jews). I think Hebrews probably married into Palestinians, which is common for immigrants. Jews show closer gene clustering with Kurds and Turks and Armenians and probably come from the north of the fertile crescent.
Interestingly enough Ashkenazi show descent from foreign mothers and Middle Eastern fathers.
Interestingly enough Ashkenazi show descent from foreign mothers and Middle Eastern fathers.
So you concede that Palestine as in the map below, was the homeland of the Palestinians, and that Israel is illegally occupying the Palestinian homeland?
The British Mandate of Palestine (often called simply "Mandate Palestine") explicitly included Jordan. It was split into two administrative divisions: Transjordan and (historic) Palestine. It should be emphasized that Mandate Palestine was always supposed to be a superset of Palestine. So while it's correct that the term "Palestine" doesn't properly include Jordan, it's also true that "Mandate Palestine" does. It would be nice if people were consistent about the usage of these terms, but they usually are not.
??? What on Earth are you talking about? Transjordan existed for decades as an explicit part of the British Mandate, and then became an independent country back in the 1920's, at which point it shortened its name to "Jordan."
how did you arrive at this conclusion?
Tell that to the Vatican. Anything can be the basis for a state.
In fact I have, carefully. Whoever or whatever anyone cares to blame, the root causes for this conflict are not being addressed, because there is money and pride involved of course. Both misplaced. No wonder the ancient world required a ruler. Of course accepted subjection has been the norm for a very long time in the Middle East. This is a good topic in itself. It continues to this very moment. It in itself hampers this people's (Palistinians) ability to truly self-govern. There could have been peace a long time ago. Very sad.
The vatican never displaced the native Italians or try and destroy the people they fucked over.
I guess they never felt like fucking over the people who tried to destroy them either.
it is still quite an assumption to make, but i guess what does it matter. if we want to see something a certain way we just invent it.
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