Israeli/Hamas disregard for human life.
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well, now we can get down to the real deal concerning the differences. first, the Jewish People, even with all the baggage attributed to them, have a far reaching history and claim that makes the claims of others pale in comparison. like I've said before, the Palistinians are a creation of their so called Brothers and Sisters in neighboring countries, who supposedly, with heart felt desire, support these poor downtrodden people, while waging a proxy war with Israel. It is the game they have been playing for a long time. Who is kidding who? This problem could be solved overnight, literally.
Then why inflict it on the Palestinians?
The Arabs understand that Jewish sentiment. Thus the resistance.
BS. This has been debunked.
Whatever you may want or believe, there WILL eventually be a solution. The sooner the Zionists get to the negotiating table, the better off they will be. It is simply a matter of time. You cannot push back the tide.
Apache was a nation. So was Rhodesia.
You're completely deluded. I've stayed in the Middle east for five years and looked into the history of Palestine as well as the so- called history of Jews. Except for the Talmud which contains ridiculous assertions of racial superiority, there is no Jewish history. The Zionist narrative is a false history created solely for the purpose of stealing land. The russians and Europeans who call themselves Jews have nothing in common with the Haredi and have reinvented Jewishness by including atheists.
Read what Mizrahi Jews (middle eastern Jews) say about the Zionist narrative. Like Sami Chetrit
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That is entirely understandable my friend, and yes, in essence this NEEDS to be achieved. But violence is not the tool for peace. Dialogue needs to be initiated by ALL parties concerned.
How?
Buffalo Roam
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That is entirely understandable my friend, and yes, in essence this NEEDS to be achieved. But violence is not the tool for peace. Dialogue needs to be initiated by ALL parties concerned.
Tell that to your Pals the Pales, 60 years of violence and what has it got them?
First, we recognize what the situation really is: I hear of the poor, destitute Palistinians languishing at the cruel hands of the Israelis. All smoke and mirrors. The true agenda is to remove Israel altogether, as has been stated many times before. That is why no peace treaty will ever last. Ever. Yes, the situation could be turned around overnight, however, that would not be beneficial to the designs of the oil rich countries that have been waging a proxy war for some time. In terms of money alone, the plight of this people who call themselves Palistinians could be not only be taken care of, they could even be relocated if necessary. I'm sure if just one or two of the countries that are currently building multi-billion dollar cities would turn their loving gaze upon these Muslim brothers and sisters, a change could be announced today. Also, the filthy bands of violent Rats that call themselves the peoples protectors ( i.e. Hamas, among others ) have a very nice situation here, with the United States pouring in money, that is of course shameful in the least. I have to say to those who scrape up every piece of dirty laundry they can to justify their thinly veiled Anti-Jew perspectives, get a life.
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I think you are confused. This needs to be told to the Zionists. 60 years of violence and they are still fighting.
It is clear they need to start talking.
Right, as I thought. You don`t have a clue. Nor do you understand or know the background.
1. Smoke and mirrors? No. The people are suffering en mass. To be fair the odd Israeli citizen is suffering also.
2. Why should the displacement caused by Israel be these folk - "countries that are currently building multi-billion dollar cities" their problem? Who created the problem? Britain, the US and of course the Zionists. The are the ones responsible for fixing it.
3. The old colonial trick of moving indigenous folk around at random to solve territorial issues, (lets move the Palestinians to Jordan) is not acceptable to the people effected, ie. the Palestinians, nor is to the host nation to be. This is strange logic.
4. Every coin has two sides. Take a look, its true.
Shalom
The same thing which 200 years of fighting got the native Americans. Do you think they were wrong to fight? Will you fight if you are occupied or will you, like Fatah oppress your own people and take a paycheck from your occupiers?
1. This is because of the leadership on both sides. look into the facts.Right, as I thought. You don`t have a clue. Nor do you understand or know the background.
1. Smoke and mirrors? No. The people are suffering en mass. To be fair the odd Israeli citizen is suffering also.
2. Why should the displacement caused by Israel be these folk - "countries that are currently building multi-billion dollar cities" their problem? Who created the problem? Britain, the US and of course the Zionists. The are the ones responsible for fixing it.
3. The old colonial trick of moving indigenous folk around at random to solve territorial issues, (lets move the Palestinians to Jordan) is not acceptable to the people effected, ie. the Palestinians, nor is to the host nation to be. This is strange logic.
4. Every coin has two sides. Take a look, its true.
Shalom
2. Because these "Folk" countries are also bankrolling the violence. Who is kidding who? What is the agenda on your part? Without the oil, they would all be returning to the sand. 3. Gee, isn't that where they actually came from anyway? They congregated in the this area that is in so much dispute. Let their "host' nations take part. 4. Indeed, every coin has two sides. Look at them.
The Palestinians are historically agriculturists. It's the Jews who are historically nomads. Except for a brief moment of their history(which, there is no way to verify), they have never considered any place as home no matter how long they stayed there. At least, that's how it appears from their history of non-assimilation.
I feel like screaming out my window. I don't have to even go back thousands of years to clear this one up. Travelers even a hundred years ago reported what a waste land this was. Agriculture? Where? as far as the history of the
jews in this area, there had always been simply more, whatever the catagory.
You must read some fascinating fiction. Pre-Zionist Jewish travellers have reported the lack of land available because they were all under cultivation by Plaestinians. Their olive orchards are the stuff of legend and go back to before biblical times. The age of their trees ( the ones not bulldozed by the Jews) is mute testimony to their history.
Buffalo Roam
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Yes SAM, but were did they travel, East or West of the Jordan, that make a big difference.
Buffalo Roam
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Yes SAM, but were did they travel, East or West of the Jordan, and what area were they describeing that make a big difference.
The Palestine was a big area, west of the Jordan was sparsely populated, and with little in agriculture, until the Jews reclaimed the land
Here in America, I can travel to places that are completely desolate or teaming with Life and Culture, scrub lands, or lush forest, and farm lands,
and that is only in the State of Texas, the same can be said for almost every other State of the U.S., let alone the countries of the world and especially the Middle East.
Twain disagrees with you. and between you and Mark Twain I'm taking Twain 11 times out of 10.
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