Israel, Palestine and the Arab/Israel Conflict

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And I wasn't asking you, I was pointing out - as you like to do to others - that you believe the same thing.

Geoff
 
DiamondHearts said:
And he did say God's chosen people, so I was asking him what he means by that.
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In Judaism, chosenness is the belief that the Jews are a people chosen to be in a covenant with God.

'Supersessionism' is the belief of some Christians that Christians have replaced Israel as God's Chosen people.

In Mormonism, the Latter Day Saints see themselves as a chosen people.

Christian Identity groups, based on a fusion of Nazi ideology, white supremacy, and fundamentalist Christianity, have developed a theology which holds that God hates the Jews, and that only white Christians are God's chosen people.

Reverend Moon teaches that Korea is the chosen nation, selected to serve a divine mission. In Korean, "chosen" is a term meaning the Korean people.

Whilst the caste system of India confers a degree of birth-right to the "chosen" Brahmins, there exist a few cults or New Religious Movements that consider themselves to be the Chosen people, e.g. the Brahma Kumari World Spiritual Organisation.

Islamic supersessionism presents Muslims as the only people chosen to carry the true word of God.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chosen_people
 
Sorry it took so long to get back to you, Diamondheart, I was involved with Easter Holiday, I was celebrating the the sacrifical death of Jesus, Iesous, Yeshu', Yehoshua', wich ever name you choose to call him, wich ended the law of the old testament, the blood laws and by his resurection from death, brought forth the laws of the New Testament, wich are salvation through belief in Him, as called the son of God, the one God who we know not his true name? As for your statement that you are willing to stand before God/ Allah(swt), with out a intersessor, stop and contemplate the perfection of the Deity, the terrible absolute unstained perfection of God/Allah(swt), can you with out the sin of pride justify you life to the God of Perfect Righteousness, and expect to gain heaven, I beleive there is no way you as human born of Adam and Eve, expelled from Eden of sin, can live a sinless life that will stand the awful perfect presence of the absolut PERFECTION OF THE GOD AND CREATOR OF LIFE.
Yes I was refering to the 16th Chapter of Genesis.
Can you explain these Qur'an verse's 4:169-171, !9:34-35 I beleave that 13 times they refer to Jesus as the Messiah of mankind?
 
Buffalo Roam said:
Zakariya, how can Qasm rockets compaire nuclear tipped missles, easy their are launched every week to kill, maime, and terrorise (with fear) the inoccent, You blame the Isreali for blowing up the houses of palistinian terrorist leader, and then castagate them for the inoccent life lost as collateral damage, but remember these leader(Palistinian) are chooseing to have their families in the danger zone with them, (human shields do you think) and how would you rate the manhood of of those who would hide behind and scrafice their wives children and loved ones to futher a political cause, :confused: The Qusm is launched with no target, but the soul pourpose of killing Isreali's no target other than than innocent people! answer me this?
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Hummm, what i said was that israel bombs civilian buildings under the pretext of a miltant or miltant leader being there. I still dont see how you can justify the destruction of blocks of flats just cos of 1 militant being in there or suspected of being there.
 
Buffalo Roam said:
Can you explain these Qur'an verse's 4:169-171, !9:34-35 I beleave that 13 times they refer to Jesus as the Messiah of mankind?
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Buffallo, yes, Jesus is the messiah, i doubt Diamon would dispute that.

This is why there should not be any bloodshed betweeen the Abrahamic religions espicially christianians and jews.
 
Zakariya, I would make the statement read, This is why there should not be any bloodshed between the Abrahamic religions espicially, Christians, Jews,and Islam, we must always remeber that the jewish people are favored of God, and the people pf the book. Both the Qur'an and Bible so state.
 
Zakariya, and the Quasnm rocket don't fall on innocent's apartments, homes, and familys, if the rockets stoped I'm am will to bet, that the Israilies will stop hitting Palistianin apartments, homes, and families, every time the bombings, and rocket from Hamas stop so dose the Israilie retailation, Que, Paso?
 
Buffalo Roam said:
Zakariya, and the Quasnm rocket don't fall on innocent's apartments, homes, and familys, if the rockets stoped I'm am will to bet, that the Israilies will stop hitting Palistianin apartments, homes, and families, every time the bombings, and rocket from Hamas stop so dose the Israilie retailation, Que, Paso?
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Israeli terrorism was being commited way before the obsolete quassam rocket was produced in some plaestinian shed!!
 
Buffalo Roam said:
Zakariya, I would make the statement read, This is why there should not be any bloodshed between the Abrahamic religions espicially, Christians, Jews,and Islam, we must always remeber that the jewish people are favored of God, and the people pf the book. Both the Qur'an and Bible so state.
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Yep true i meant to include all three religions in that post, i was just thinking ahead of myself.

The only reasons for all this shit is the power huingry fuckwits
 
Zakariya, so was Palestinian terrorism, of innocents, and as I have observed when the Palestinians stop bombing Israelis, the retaliation stops. But your blood feud mentaility calls for one more death to make things equal plus punishment, but there is no one who truely can tell me who struck the first blow so may it not be profitable to not strike the next blow and even the next and try to give this whole thing a end, and if the Israeli continue to make strikes, then they will be known as the agressors that you say they are? This blow for blow dose not show who the real sin lie's with and that is the real question? And the Quasm still fly, so to the Gunships, who will strike the last blow?
 
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Buffalo Roam said:
But your blood feud mentaility calls for one more death to make things equal plus punishment
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From what I've seen, Zakariya doesn't share that mentality. As for the results of endless reprisals: "An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind".
 
Pay attention, I was not singling out Zakaria, I recognise him as a unique individual, the your refered to a vast majority of Hamas wich dose beleve in the blood fued, as demostrated weekly, no matter who end up paying for their bullheadedness!
 
There is no blood feud mentality indoctorinated in our religion. what the religion tells us to do is to defend against oppresion. In no way do i condone any acts of open agression regardless of whether it is a Muslim country or not.

Unfortunately today a lot of the religious leaders and teachers are talking buillshit and putting there angle on things.

its like my other thread i created yesterday when the fuckwit Wahhbi lot in Saudi arabia have been destorying a lot of the Islamic heritage, eg the Prophets (PBUH) wife tomb etc...This guys do not have a clue and are so insecure it is unbeleivable. Muslims should be acting out against these idoits instead. Which should sort ourselves out before we try putting the world to rights.

try checking out my new thread, which has subsequently been moved to the rligion section it is called "is there no stopping these idiots."

is that ok Buffallo or have i missed a point somewhere!!???!???
 
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