Israel, Palestine and the Arab/Israel Conflict
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how are you geoff?
i hope all is well, whats the YEP about
i hope all is well, whats the YEP about
Hi Zak, hope you're well also.
The "Yep" was to indicate agreement with Funkstar. Common usage in this case is appropriate, since anti-Semitism in practical usage does not generally refer to Arabs or people of Arabic descent.
For the latter, one would presume "anti-Arab" would suffice.
Geoff
The "Yep" was to indicate agreement with Funkstar. Common usage in this case is appropriate, since anti-Semitism in practical usage does not generally refer to Arabs or people of Arabic descent.
For the latter, one would presume "anti-Arab" would suffice.
Geoff
From..Today's News
"Khaled Meshaal said that only if Israel declared its readiness to pull out of occupied land, return refugees, break down the security fence and free all prisoners, "then our side will take serious steps toward securing peace."
He made it clear he was in no rush to enter any kind of talks with Israel, which considers the group a terrorist organization, and hinted that Hamas was in no mood to end its armed struggle."
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I say;.....throw them out......
Israel needs them all out now.
Any Palestinian found within Israeli teritory, should be arrested and tried as a terrorist.
Time for playing with these people is over.
No land given back....no way....not now....not ever.
"Khaled Meshaal said that only if Israel declared its readiness to pull out of occupied land, return refugees, break down the security fence and free all prisoners, "then our side will take serious steps toward securing peace."
He made it clear he was in no rush to enter any kind of talks with Israel, which considers the group a terrorist organization, and hinted that Hamas was in no mood to end its armed struggle."
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I say;.....throw them out......
Israel needs them all out now.
Any Palestinian found within Israeli teritory, should be arrested and tried as a terrorist.
Time for playing with these people is over.
No land given back....no way....not now....not ever.
TheVisitor said:
The visitor
with attitudes like that no wonder the world is so fucked!
Also i dont call bombing residential areas using apaches and F16 and such like as playing, and nor would you if you were on the receivingend of it. Espicially if you had no anti aircraft defence!! I would actually call it terrorism!! would not you???
Zakariya04 said:
Not, would I......
Hummm,
so are you trying to tell me that the slaughter of innocent Palestinians with F16's and Apache gunships to name but 2 of the weapons of Israel is not terrorism??!!??!
so are you trying to tell me that the slaughter of innocent Palestinians with F16's and Apache gunships to name but 2 of the weapons of Israel is not terrorism??!!??!
Zakariya04 said:
There aren't any "innocent Palestinians" except the women and children the cowards hide behind and blow up shooting at the peace keepers.....on thier way to the crowded markets to blow up innocent Israelis'
in thier own country.
Any Innocent Palestinians would have already left Israel years ago.
Those still there are troublemakers....or brainwashed suicide bombers.
No land for peace.....ever!
those apache and f16 pilots must have great eye sight if they know the buildings they are blowing up have terrorists hiding behind women and children.TheVisitor said:
Perhaps they have Xray vision!!???!!??
And what about the israeli tank crews which tie palesstinian children to the front of their vechiles of destruction. Oh but we are not meant to know about those sort of attrocities.
its funny how israel can make Media block out zones like in the massacre of jenin.
well its not funny at all, the israeli military shoudl feel ashamed, a tank against an Ak47, who is the coward in this case
It's obviously not clear-cut, I am wrong in stating there are no innocent palestinians....
of course there are innocents in every group...
I do believe that land belongs to the Israelites.
Maybe they should go about taking it back a little differently.
Thats the only issue left here in my oppinion, If God gave them the land, and He did...
but chose to run them off it for there disobedience for a season and that season is now up.....
Anyone trying to take it from them will be cursed and if they try to give it away, for peace or whatever reason they will be cursed.
The final deduction is...thats thier land and they need to reclaim it all or else.
The whole world is being drawn into this conflict....
Russia siding with the Arabs and the U.S.A. with the Israelites.
This has all the ingredients for WWIII or Armagedon....which the name "Armagedon comes from a valley named Harmagedon" right in that very area.
Whats kind off amazing is there have been prophecies for 3000 years saying that the final war would happen right in this place and now with nuclear weapons and superpowers posed at the brink of destuction man has let himself be drawn into this very thing.
Watch it all play out by groups that don't even believe in the prophecies.
of course there are innocents in every group...
I do believe that land belongs to the Israelites.
Maybe they should go about taking it back a little differently.
Thats the only issue left here in my oppinion, If God gave them the land, and He did...
but chose to run them off it for there disobedience for a season and that season is now up.....
Anyone trying to take it from them will be cursed and if they try to give it away, for peace or whatever reason they will be cursed.
The final deduction is...thats thier land and they need to reclaim it all or else.
The whole world is being drawn into this conflict....
Russia siding with the Arabs and the U.S.A. with the Israelites.
This has all the ingredients for WWIII or Armagedon....which the name "Armagedon comes from a valley named Harmagedon" right in that very area.
Whats kind off amazing is there have been prophecies for 3000 years saying that the final war would happen right in this place and now with nuclear weapons and superpowers posed at the brink of destuction man has let himself be drawn into this very thing.
Watch it all play out by groups that don't even believe in the prophecies.
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And what about the israeli tank crews which tie palesstinian children to the front of their vechiles of destruction.
What about this piece of fiction? Are you gonna say they drink their blood, too?
well its not funny at all, the israeli military shoudl feel ashamed, a tank against an Ak47, who is the coward in this case
Right, should get out of their tanks so they can get shot like real men? Is this a war or a duel?
What about this piece of fiction? Are you gonna say they drink their blood, too?
well its not funny at all, the israeli military shoudl feel ashamed, a tank against an Ak47, who is the coward in this case
Right, should get out of their tanks so they can get shot like real men? Is this a war or a duel?
spidergoat said:
Yes we could have had Sharon VS Arafat in a sword fight or Bush Vs Bin Laden, that would have saved a lot of lives!!!!!!!
The Visitor, this more reasoned thinking.....however i think God would rather a peaceful solution to all of this then killing of innocentsTheVisitor said:
Hi GeoffGeoffP said:
I hope all is well with you
i hope i'm not insane!! i did hear that somewhere, however it may have been tying palestinians to tanks......
I will either find a source or retract the statement with apologies
is that fair???!!!
Here you go Geoff and the other guy who thought i was nuts! not a tank but a police Jeep though. I hope "The Independent" UK based paper is an ok source for you"GeoffP said:
Inquiry after Israeli forces caught using boy as shield
DONALD MacINTYRE
Independent, 24 April 2004
Jerusalem -- A photograph of a Palestinian boy tied to an Israeli police jeep has been handed to justice officials charged with investigating complaints over the use of "human shields" against demonstrators.
The boy, 13-year-old Mohammed Bedwan, and three adult protesters were tied to border police vehicles last week during one of what have become almost daily demonstrations against the routing of the Israeli government's barrier through Palestinian land.
Here some more
Activists say Border Police held boy, 13, as human shield
REUTERS and HA'ARETZ SERVICES
Ha'aretz, 22 April 2004
When older Palestinian boys started throwing stones at Border Police officers in the flashpoint West Bank village of Biddu last week, 13-year-old Muhammed Badwan went along to watch.
He ended up on the hood of a Border Police jeep, at least one of his arms tied to a wire mesh screen that blocks the windshield from incoming stones, according to a photograph of the purported incident distributed Thursday by local group Rabbis for Human Rights.
Activists say Border Police held boy, 13, as human shield
REUTERS and HA'ARETZ SERVICES
Ha'aretz, 22 April 2004
When older Palestinian boys started throwing stones at Border Police officers in the flashpoint West Bank village of Biddu last week, 13-year-old Muhammed Badwan went along to watch.
He ended up on the hood of a Border Police jeep, at least one of his arms tied to a wire mesh screen that blocks the windshield from incoming stones, according to a photograph of the purported incident distributed Thursday by local group Rabbis for Human Rights.
Very well - and look: "a photograph of the purported incident distributed Thursday by local group Rabbis for Human Rights"
Rabbis, even. If your argument was that Israel is uniformly evil, you're mistaken. It's a free society like any other and people break the law. And they get punished.
Geoff
Rabbis, even. If your argument was that Israel is uniformly evil, you're mistaken. It's a free society like any other and people break the law. And they get punished.
Geoff
Hi Geoff.GeoffP said:
i'm glad you have the words "if your argument" becuase i dont know what you would categorise/descirbe as the entity israel. I would never label a whole country and its population as evil.
Anyway geoff on a lighter note ,what you up to today? Anything nice??
Take care
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