Israel, Palestine and the Arab/Israel Conflict

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Maybe b/c it wasn't said? Maybe because your rhetoric doesn't hold up with reality? Call me whatever name you will but in the end of the day you know your wrong...that's all that matters. Go back drinking that mares milk...
 
What wasn't said? What do I know I'm wrong about? Still delusional...

Thanks for the racist Ad Hom though.
 
So you now admit your a Asian who happens to live in Europe.

What do I know I'm wrong about?

Go read every post you posted...that's your answer.
 
Do you admit that you're (correct grammar) an African that happens to live in Canada?

Go read every post you posted...that's your answer.

Like the one where I told you Kant wasn't a jew? lol..keep trying..
 
Do you admit that you're (correct grammar) an African that happens to live in Canada?

We all are Africans, unless you aren’t a homo sapien of course, I have no problem with saying that because that's what I am a homo sapien, now you that could be anything.

Like the one where I told you Kant wasn't a jew? lol..keep trying..

Again show me where I said he was…otherwise STFU Barbarian.
 
We all are Africans, unless you aren’t a homo sapien of course, I have no problem with saying that because that's what I am a homo sapien, now you that could be anything.

Homo-Sapiens emerged from Africa. Wow. Personally, I think it's a bit idiotic to say that that means were all African, but maybe that's just me.


A Jew living in Prussia like Kant was not in any sense of the word a Palestinian, he was a Jewish Prussian. Also I did not see an actual Jew call themselves a Palestinian as of yet either, (pre-Zionism). Jews have been referred to as many things to many different people, are they Hebrews too? Don’t be fooled by semantics.


STFU Barbarian

Again, thanks for the racism.
 
Homo-Sapiens emerged from Africa. Wow. Personally, I think it's a bit idiotic to say that that means were all African, but maybe that's just me

It’s not idiotic it’s just your racism that bars you from looking at the situation objectively. You think when I say “Africa” you think of “underdeveloped black people” you don’t think about it anthropologically or historically. Of course we all come from a common ancestor; it was only through evolution that we became white, or in your case Mongoloid. You just like the fact that in reality we are all one people, and we all came from the depths of South Africa’s caves.

A Jew living in Prussia like Kant was not in any sense of the word a Palestinian, he was a Jewish Prussian.

That was my err, I knew Kant was not a Jew I did not intentionally will to say that. He was obviously a Protestant Prussian. But really is this all you got biatch?

Again, thanks for the racism.

Oh don’t mention it, I am merely following Kant’s categorical imperative, since you will everyone to a racist like yourself, I am doing it to you. That should be moral in your worldview, since you obviously will that everyone should be a racist.
 
It’s not idiotic it’s just your racism that bars you from looking at the situation objectively. You think when I say “Africa” you think of “underdeveloped black people” you don’t think about it anthropologically or historically. Of course we all come from a common ancestor; it was only through evolution that we became white, or in your case Mongoloid. You just like the fact that in reality we are all one people, and we all came from the depths of South Africa’s caves.

I do think about it anthropologically, as well as ethnically, culturally, and geographically. And in all of these cases Africans are distinguishable from Europeans and Asians. We all came from Africa Millennia ago, yes. but all forms of life emerged from primordial ooze once upon a time too. This doesn't mean that we should label all ourselves under the same banner as dogs and cats horses and aids virus's.

p.s. I am not mongoloid in any sense, if you saw me or knew me you would know this. It's just utterly stupid of you to call me a mongoloid.

That was my err, I knew Kant was not a Jew I did not intentionally will to say that. He was obviously a Protestant Prussian. But really is this all you got biatch

OK, but how do you just write a whole sentence by mistake? Either you're lying or you have some very strange cognitive habits.

Oh don’t mention it, I am merely following Kant’s categorical imperative, since you will everyone to a racist like yourself, I am doing it to you. That should be moral in your worldview, since you obviously will that everyone should be a racist.

I do will everyone to be racist. And I'm glad you are. But you must be a pretty weak individual to abandon your principles so easily. You always bleat about others being what you see as racist (which is to say that they deviate from your 'we are the world’ Weltanschauung), but you happily become a racist when it suits you. haha you poor soul
 
I do think about it anthropologically, as well as ethnically, culturally, and geographically. And in all of these cases Africans are distinguishable from Europeans and Asians.

Of course we are, that is due to climate more then anything else. There were no humans living outside of Africa two million years ago. Whites, Mongoloids, etc. adapted to their environment, Whites having less sun due to the ice age turned white but were black, Arabs less black, Indians as well, Aborigines in Australia had much sun and stayed very dark. But we were all dark at first when we crossed the land bridge from the Horn of Africa to Arabia. Again we all did…

but all forms of life emerged from primordial ooze once upon a time too. This doesn't mean that we should label all ourselves under the same banner as dogs and cats horses and aids virus's.

That’s your ignorance, I think labelling period is stupid because since we all share the same ancestors we are all essentially one thing only…human. The only thing that really separates is culture and geography, I don’t see dog racism, if we can all have children together we are one race.

OK, but how do you just write a whole sentence by mistake? Either you're lying or you have some very strange cognitive habits.

I must have been so confused after so much talk about Jews in that thread…that was my err and at least I am wiling to admit to it.

I do will everyone to be racist. And I'm glad you are.

No you aren’t I obviously hurt your feelings or touched a nerve whenever I call you Asian. Why would you say this if you will racism to be the universal maxim?

Again, thanks for the racism.

Why the sarcasm? You are lying to not only me but to urself, you don’t like racism.

But you must be a pretty weak individual to abandon your principles so easily.

No I never had a “racist” principle, if anything I am a humanist at heart and consider all human beings as equal from birth only education separates us, and if anything I am an “educationalist”, if you are a dumb idiot I hate you, because knowledge is the only real thing under your control. I am not going ot hate someone over something they cannot control…that’s petty and sad. Do you hate the disabled too? If not why not?

You always bleat about others being what you see as racist (which is to say that they deviate from your 'we are the world’ Weltanschauung), but you happily become a racist when it suits you. haha you poor soul

No I only use it against you because you will to be used against you. I am not racist with anyone else but you. This is what you wanted so STFU.
 
Of course we are, that is due to climate more then anything else. There were no humans living outside of Africa two million years ago. Whites, Mongoloids, etc. adapted to their environment, Whites having less sun due to the ice age turned white but were black, Arabs less black, Indians as well, Aborigines in Australia had much sun and stayed very dark. But we were all dark at first when we crossed the land bridge from the Horn of Africa to Arabia. Again we all did…

That’s fine, but for a large amount of time humans were evolving separately, Africans from whites, whites from Asians, so we all have different sub-categories. Genetic catagories. Those are in addition to basic cultural difference that have we have that also justify distinctions. No one denies that we are all human. If all humans came from Africa the in that sense we are all Africans. But in another we are Europeans/Asians whatever.

That’s your ignorance, I think labelling period is stupid because since we all share the same ancestors we are all essentially one thing only…human. The only thing that really separates is culture and geography, I don’t see dog racism, if we can all have children together we are one race

But here we see the motivation for your universalist categorising- you want to prevent racism. Thus it's not really about facts and logic, it's because you want us all to get along. We are all human, yes. We are all animal to, along with the dogs and cats. I admit that I'm human like an African, but not African like an African. I would hope an African would be prideful enough to want to distinguish himself from me too.



No you aren’t I obviously hurt your feelings or touched a nerve whenever I call you Asian. Why would you say this if you will racism to be the universal maxim?

But you don't hurt my feelings..this is what I think you fail to see. I honestly find your aspersions about this laughable. I am happy for you to be racist..to me to anyone. But the specific ways in which you are being racist to me are just so erroneous..you would probably understand this if you saw/knew me.


Why the sarcasm? You are lying to not only me but to urself, you don’t like racism.

I do like the racism, carry on.



No I never had a “racist” principle, if anything I am a humanist at heart and consider all human beings as equal from birth only education separates us, and if anything I am an “educationalist”, if you are a dumb idiot I hate you, because knowledge is the only real thing under your control. I am not going ot hate someone over something they cannot control…that’s petty and sad. Do you hate the disabled too? If not why not?

I think people can control a lot of things. More than just what they learn. In the end all knowledge is subjective anyway. You seem to believe that your knowledge is the only worthwhile form and reject everybody else who doesn't conform to it. This is what I mean by you being narcissistic. Instead of hating 'dumb and stupid' people, why not just accept that not everyone thinks like you do. No I don't hate the disabled. I don't really think about them.



No I only use it against you because you will to be used against you. I am not racist with anyone else but you. This is what you wanted so STFU.

Even so, your racism is by your own definition ignorant so why should I even take it seriously?
 
That’s fine, but for a large amount of time humans were evolving separately, Africans from whites, whites from Asians, so we all have different sub-categories. No one is denies that we are all human. If all humans came from Africa the in that sense we are all Africans. But in another we are Europeans/Asians whatever.

Because we all share that common genetic code from our black great grandmother…yes black great grandma. We are different breeds to say of sorts, but we are one race, the human race. Racists like yourself cannot consider a black person as a human because you do not think he is equal to you from birth. Thus they are not human, rather they are some other race entirely, which is fallacious because you can have children with them. We are like dogs, all dogs different breeds not different races.

But here we see the motivation for your universalist categorising- you want to prevent racism.

No I don’t believe in race…so…how can I prevent something that doesn’t exist? Racism and race exists in your mind not in objective fact.

Thus it's not really about facts and logic, it's because you want us all to get along.

Where have I ever said that? If anything I am not a pacifist I do believe in the use of force…if absolutely necessary not aimlessly like the supposed “intelligentsia” you would probably call yourself.

I admit that I'm human like an African, but not African like an African. I would hope an African would be prideful enough to want to distinguish himself from me too.

That is due to culture, not biology understand the difference.

But you don't hurt my feelings..this is what I think you fail to see. I honestly find your aspersions about this laughable. I am happy for you to be racist..to me to anyone. But the specific ways in which you are being racist to me are just so erroneous..you would probably understand this if you saw/knew me.

Again there are major gaps in your logic look at this pic and tell me what is this man:

afghani-landmine_victim_15april2003.jpg


Just because he doesn’t look Afghani doesn’t mean he isn’t, you don’t have to look Asian to be Asian. This was Attila the Hun:

ATTILA.GIF


He was from the steppes of Asia; does he look like the man above no? So I don’t care what the hell you look like it doesn’t mean you aren’t Asian. Obviously me calling you Asian hurts your feelings because if it didn’t then there would be need to continually defend yourself, and to be sarcastic. You don’t racism just admit it, I mean the more you deny it the more desperate you look.

I do like the racism, carry on.

Nice defence mechanism but it isn’t fooling me, you are using reverse psychology whether you know it or not.

I think people can control a lot of things. More than just what they learn.

I am not going to hate someone over the way they walk…intelligence is the only thing that MATTERS that we can control.

You seem to believe that your knowledge is the only worthwhile form and reject everybody else who doesn't conform to it.

Not true, just others are unable to adequately refute it. You hate me, and I am happy you do b/c ur hatred validates my superiority over you. I don’t hate you, I have pity for you.

This is what I mean by you being narcissistic. Instead of hating 'dumb and stupid' people, why not just accept that not everyone thinks like you do. No I don't hate the disabled. I don't really think about them.

But you hate those who are by your definition disabled from birth due to their race? You see I am not being “narcissistic” because I don’t love myself, people have told me that I am intelligent I never said I was. It’s not like I am saying “I am so smart” in the mirror, ppl tell me as such. What am I supposed to do? Say no?

Even so, your racism is by your own definition ignorant so why should I even take it seriously?

Because you will it to be taken seriously…
 
To me Attila the Hun looks like a typical Turkic Asian. But anyway , some Asians look like Asians, some look like whites, then there are just white people. I am just a white. You can trust me on that. Not that I would care if I was an Asian.

Because we all share that common genetic code from our black great grandmother…yes black great grandma. We are different breeds to say of sorts, but we are one race, the human race. Racists like yourself cannot consider a black person as a human because you do not think he is equal to you from birth. Thus they are not human, rather they are some other race entirely, which is fallacious because you can have children with them. We are like dogs, all dogs different breeds not different races

Still not making much sense. We all share a common genetic code with monkeys. I never said Blacks aren't human. I would never say that. And I don't consider then unequal, just different. That is just a fact.

No I don’t believe in race…so…how can I prevent something that doesn’t exist? Racism and race exists in your mind not in objective fact
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Well it does exist for most people, and you want to change their minds. Your belief that it does not really exist is just personal, and a large source of sanctimony. But most of the science is against you on this.

That is due to culture, not biology understand the difference.

I do understand the difference. I have never asserted that there is any meaningful genetic differences between races. You are just extrapolating that, erroneously.

Not true, just others are unable to adequately refute it. You hate me, and I am happy you do b/c ur hatred validates my superiority over you. I don’t hate you, I have pity for you.

lol, but the thing is it's unlikely that anyone will ever be able to present you with arguments that you consider refutation, not because your views are irrefutable, but because your just arrogant, supremacist, and in love with your own views. I have observed this about you ever since ive been posting here. You think you’re indestructible but you’re really not. Sometimes you even struggle with basic facts. That's why I just started mocking you after a while.

But you hate those who are by your definition disabled from birth due to their race?

i don't hate anyone. I maintain preferences, European over Asian, Asian over African, and so forth. and these preference are bases in what I see as cultural differences not genetic ones. You really have no idea. Racially, Arabs are mostly smarter than Muslims. Yet I prefer Europeans to Arabs. See?

You see I am not being “narcissistic” because I don’t love myself, people have told me that I am intelligent I never said I was. It’s not like I am saying “I am so smart” in the mirror, ppl tell me as such. What am I supposed to do? Say no

heh. No, say thanks I guess. That's what I do. But don't go bragging all over the internet about how smart you are. You say you are an intellectual destroyer who kills everybody Zionist that you encounter. You say that anybody that gets sick of arguing with you is surrendering. You say that Hungarians can’t be considered westerners, yet any encyclopedia says they can. You constantly assert you are superior. To me you seem delusional to a sort of comical extent.

my superiority over you

Haha whatever makes you happy man.
 
To me Attila the Hun looks like a typical Turkic Asian.

Well no he doesn’t actually he looks like a normal European in that description, Turks can look very European. I have been fooled a great deal many times by Turks who I thought were at least…Hungarian let’s say. I remember I meet someone who I thought was Arabic…I found out he was Italian. If course Italian isn’t a breed, it’s a nationality there is no Hungarian “race” there is only a Hungarian “identity”. Your ancestors, the ancestors, the creators of Hungary are not European, neither are those of Finland (which many have very narrow eyes), or Estonia. You confuse Hungarian nationalism with a non-existent Hungarian “race”. Alas…ignorance.

But anyway , some Asians look like Asians, some look like whites, then there are just white people. I am just a white. You can trust me on that. Not that I would care if I was an Asian.

You obviously do care quite a bit; you take great offence whenever I mention that Hungarians are descendants of Central Asians. When I tell you to go drink Mares milk you obviously do take great offence when in essence that is what your descendants did. (I don’t buy your story that you are “English” because what rational English person would move to Hungary?)

Still not making much sense. We all share a common genetic code with monkeys.

To a certain extent, we are over 90% in common with algae too I believe. But we cannot have children with a monkey, that you don’t understand is the crux of my argument. Since we can have children with other breeds, we are one race, and to be a racist is to hate oneself.

I never said Blacks aren't human. I would never say that. And I don't consider then unequal, just different. That is just a fact.

Being a racist by definition if you didn’t realize makes other people second class and essentially non-human why do you think we allowed slavery? Do you think we considered blacks are people? No we considered them property; we did not consider them human. Since you are a proud racist (which makes no sense), you consider ppl inferior to you of no fault of their own. Thus they are not human, if you consider yourself a human, anything inferior then a human is not human. That is why racism is inherently contradictory, and why I know you are an ignoramus of infamous porportions.

Well it does exist for most people, and you want to change their minds.

God exists then by that definition, am I to believe in God (which I do) because the majority do? Please let’s not appeal to majority here, that’s a sad and petty and anti-intellectual stance that cannot be tolerated.

Your belief that it does not really exist is just personal, and a large source of sanctimony. But most of the science is against you on this.

Actually much of science is behind me on this because it recognizes that there is one race…that of humanity. Race is not a scientific formulation so much as it was a formulation of a German philosopher.

I do understand the difference. I have never asserted that there is any meaningful genetic differences between races. You are just extrapolating that, erroneously.

Then if there isn’t any as you assert then how can one be a racist? If we are all the same in essence what is racism based on? If there are not meaningful genetic differences then you are NOT A RACIST, you are a culuralist more then anything else, and you are too ignorant to realize this. You obviously do not understand the difference because you cannot differentiate the two. Vlad…please its getting sad now.

You think you’re indestructible but you’re really not. Sometimes you even struggle with basic facts. That's why I just started mocking you after a while.

Did you do some acting class? Kudos if you did…you attacking me is a defence mechanism it’s that simple. Do you know what an Ad hom is? It’s simply you not having a rebuttal against my argument and attacking me. I on the other hand is accused of Ad homs, but the critical difference is that I ad hom during my rape phase. You just ad hom, and that’s pretty sad.

i don't hate anyone.

If you are a “racist” by definition you do…genius. And you wonder why I think your “not to intelligent”?

I maintain preferences, European over Asian, Asian over African, and so forth. and these preference are bases in what I see as cultural differences not genetic ones.

Then you aren’t a racist…DUH!

You really have no idea. Racially, Arabs are mostly smarter than Muslims. Yet I prefer Europeans to Arabs. See?

I have no idea because I don’t understand IDIOTS…so no I wouldn’t understand I am incapable. You have no idea what you are saying, and it shows Vlad. I think anyone reading this thread can easily see whom here is the superior. I don’t see anyone supporting you, rather I have some support already against your petty existence. i.e. Impressive Nico

That's what I do.

Well it’s easy when you practice in the mirror Vlad…but I am talking about real world complements.

But don't go bragging all over the internet about how smart you are.

I have? Show me where I have? When have I ever said I am “smart”, “genius” , etc? Never I never did, and you know what you must think I am because you are stating things that I never said.

You say you are an intellectual destroyer who kills everybody Zionist that you encounter.

Where? Is that what you think I do? Or is that what I said? That is VERY important to distinguish.

You say that anybody that gets sick of arguing with you is surrendering.

No when their rebuttals get smaller, they resort to ad homs without rebuttal, etc. That is a cognitive surrender, and generally it is.

You say that Hungarians can’t be considered westerners, yet any encyclopedia says they can. You constantly assert you are superior. To me you seem delusional to a sort of comical extent.

To you I think I am what you are saying I am not, because you know what Vlad I never said I was anything you think I am…thanks for showing me how you really perceive me. ;) You are quite petty.
 
Thank you...Caucasus is Central Asia...with Asian influence NOT EUROPEAN. So Vlad you must consider yourself inferior to me a European...lol. Oh how very sad the mind of a pseudo-intellectual.
 
Undecided said:
To me Attila the Hun looks like a typical Turkic Asian.

Well no he doesn’t actually he looks like a normal European in that description, Turks can look very European. I have been fooled a great deal many times by Turks who I thought were at least…Hungarian let’s say. I remember I meet someone who I thought was Arabic…I found out he was Italian. If course Italian isn’t a breed, it’s a nationality there is no Hungarian “race” there is only a Hungarian “identity”. Your ancestors, the ancestors, the creators of Hungary are not European, neither are those of Finland (which many have very narrow eyes), or Estonia. You confuse Hungarian nationalism with a non-existent Hungarian “race”. Alas…ignorance.

But anyway , some Asians look like Asians, some look like whites, then there are just white people. I am just a white. You can trust me on that. Not that I would care if I was an Asian.

You obviously do care quite a bit; you take great offence whenever I mention that Hungarians are descendants of Central Asians. When I tell you to go drink Mares milk you obviously do take great offence when in essence that is what your descendants did. (I don’t buy your story that you are “English” because what rational English person would move to Hungary?)

Still not making much sense. We all share a common genetic code with monkeys.

To a certain extent, we are over 90% in common with algae too I believe. But we cannot have children with a monkey, that you don’t understand is the crux of my argument. Since we can have children with other breeds, we are one race, and to be a racist is to hate oneself.

I never said Blacks aren't human. I would never say that. And I don't consider then unequal, just different. That is just a fact.

Being a racist by definition if you didn’t realize makes other people second class and essentially non-human why do you think we allowed slavery? Do you think we considered blacks are people? No we considered them property; we did not consider them human. Since you are a proud racist (which makes no sense), you consider ppl inferior to you of no fault of their own. Thus they are not human, if you consider yourself a human, anything inferior then a human is not human. That is why racism is inherently contradictory, and why I know you are an ignoramus of infamous porportions.

Well it does exist for most people, and you want to change their minds.

God exists then by that definition, am I to believe in God (which I do) because the majority do? Please let’s not appeal to majority here, that’s a sad and petty and anti-intellectual stance that cannot be tolerated.

Your belief that it does not really exist is just personal, and a large source of sanctimony. But most of the science is against you on this.

Actually much of science is behind me on this because it recognizes that there is one race…that of humanity. Race is not a scientific formulation so much as it was a formulation of a German philosopher.

I do understand the difference. I have never asserted that there is any meaningful genetic differences between races. You are just extrapolating that, erroneously.

Then if there isn’t any as you assert then how can one be a racist? If we are all the same in essence what is racism based on? If there are not meaningful genetic differences then you are NOT A RACIST, you are a culuralist more then anything else, and you are too ignorant to realize this. You obviously do not understand the difference because you cannot differentiate the two. Vlad…please its getting sad now.

You think you’re indestructible but you’re really not. Sometimes you even struggle with basic facts. That's why I just started mocking you after a while.

Did you do some acting class? Kudos if you did…you attacking me is a defence mechanism it’s that simple. Do you know what an Ad hom is? It’s simply you not having a rebuttal against my argument and attacking me. I on the other hand is accused of Ad homs, but the critical difference is that I ad hom during my rape phase. You just ad hom, and that’s pretty sad.

i don't hate anyone.

If you are a “racist” by definition you do…genius. And you wonder why I think your “not to intelligent”?

I maintain preferences, European over Asian, Asian over African, and so forth. and these preference are bases in what I see as cultural differences not genetic ones.

Then you aren’t a racist…DUH!

You really have no idea. Racially, Arabs are mostly smarter than Muslims. Yet I prefer Europeans to Arabs. See?

I have no idea because I don’t understand IDIOTS…so no I wouldn’t understand I am incapable. You have no idea what you are saying, and it shows Vlad. I think anyone reading this thread can easily see whom here is the superior. I don’t see anyone supporting you, rather I have some support already against your petty existence. i.e. Impressive Nico

That's what I do.

Well it’s easy when you practice in the mirror Vlad…but I am talking about real world complements.

But don't go bragging all over the internet about how smart you are.

I have? Show me where I have? When have I ever said I am “smart”, “genius” , etc? Never I never did, and you know what you must think I am because you are stating things that I never said.

You say you are an intellectual destroyer who kills everybody Zionist that you encounter.

Where? Is that what you think I do? Or is that what I said? That is VERY important to distinguish.

You say that anybody that gets sick of arguing with you is surrendering.

No when their rebuttals get smaller, they resort to ad homs without rebuttal, etc. That is a cognitive surrender, and generally it is.

You say that Hungarians can’t be considered westerners, yet any encyclopedia says they can. You constantly assert you are superior. To me you seem delusional to a sort of comical extent.

To you I think I am what you are saying I am not, because you know what Vlad I never said I was anything you think I am…thanks for showing me how you really perceive me. ;) You are quite petty.

lol. ..Damn, angry, ad hom filled, post. I wonder if you are delusional enough to actually buy your own incompetend arguments. I don't think I have the time to weed all the way through your senselessness. But just a few simple things..

Ethnocentrism is often labeled as racism. Speaking derogatorily about Slavs for example is known as racism. This is because there are different meanings for the word 'race'. One meaning refers to the very scientific construction of 'race', of which there only 3. Another refers to something far more general.
from dictionary.com: Race - A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race. In common vocabulary the word racism is based on this latter more general definition. This is the definition you must have been using the many times in this thread that you've called people 'racist' for speaking ill of Palestinians, or the many times you’ve called me racist for deriding Arab culture. Palestinians or Arabs aren't a race. lol..so dont chastice me for using definitions that you constantly use, you little weasel.

These..

Being a racist by definition if you didn’t realize makes other people second class and essentially non-human why do you think we allowed slavery? Do you think we considered blacks are people? No we considered them property; we did not consider them human. Since you are a proud racist (which makes no sense), you consider ppl inferior to you of no fault of their own. Thus they are not human, if you consider yourself a human, anything inferior then a human is not human. That is why racism is inherently contradictory, and why I know you are an ignoramus of infamous porportions.


Then if there isn’t any as you assert then how can one be a racist? If we are all the same in essence what is racism based on? If there are not meaningful genetic differences then you are NOT A RACIST, you are a culuralist more then anything else, and you are too ignorant to realize this. You obviously do not understand the difference because you cannot differentiate the two. Vlad…please its getting sad now

If you are a “racist” by definition you do…genius. And you wonder why I think your “not to intelligent”?

Then you aren’t a racist…DUH!

.. bunk arguments can be dismissed.

Now..

To a certain extent, we are over 90% in common with algae too I believe. But we cannot have children with a monkey, that you don’t understand is the crux of my argument. Since we can have children with other breeds, we are one race, and to be a racist is to hate oneself.

As for this, your one breed argument proves we are all human. Have I ever said otherwise? No. Your ‘argument’ is useless. We are all humans, but there are different types of humans. Not that complicated. You can assign special value to the fact we can exclusively breed with each other, but that is just a value. There are plenty of other more exclusionary or inclusionary places which we can demarcate to make groupings. It all depends on context.

God exists then by that definition, am I to believe in God (which I do) because the majority do? Please let’s not appeal to majority here, that’s a sad and petty and anti-intellectual stance that cannot be tolerated.

You missed the point man. You said you had no motivation to dissuade people from their racism because racism doesn't not exist because there is no race. Totally vapid argument. My response then was that obviously you do seek to dissuade people from racism, because to them race does exist. It’s not that you should believe what other people believe. It’s that you do not want people to believe what they believe. As evidenced by your constant crusade against racism. No ones ‘appealing to the majority’, you're getting confused, again.

Actually much of science is behind me on this because it recognizes that there is one race…that of humanity.

Science recognizes that there is a human race and also sub human races. You just have an extreme emotional investment in the former, and a wilfull ignorance of the latter.

Did you do some acting class? Kudos if you did…you attacking me is a defence mechanism it’s that simple. Do you know what an Ad hom is? It’s simply you not having a rebuttal against my argument and attacking me. I on the other hand is accused of Ad homs, but the critical difference is that I ad hom during my rape phase. You just ad hom, and that’s pretty sad.

No I argue with you just as you argue with me, the only difference is that I don't persist with these deluded notions that I am always ‘winning’. Rape phase? It’s all in your head man. Politic dialectic is not about winning and losing. It's about comparing values. You constantly assert your values as logically inpenetrable truths. That's the most ultimate form of ignorance.

I have? Show me where I have? When have I ever said I am “smart”, “genius” , etc? Never I never did, and you know what you must think I am because you are stating things that I never said

You have used the word 'superior' in refference to yourself numerous times now ...lol even if you *were *superior that is just pathetic. You said in another thread that you have destroyed the Zionest argument many times on this board before. I have now read this whole thread and can see that you are not able to destroy anything.

But if youre a Godboy, your delusional rightiousness does make sense then. You obviously believe in 'moral truths'. Just keep in mind moral truthes are unprovable, and going around telling everybody who doesn't agree with your sense of morailiy that they are stupid and ignorant just makes you appear ignorant.

BTW, youre not a very good Christian. Two wrongs don't make a right, so being a racist to me because I am a racist is not very 'moral'.

You obviously do care quite a bit; you take great offence whenever I mention that Hungarians are descendants of Central Asians. When I tell you to go drink Mares milk you obviously do take great offence when in essence that is what your descendants did. (I don’t buy your story that you are “English” because what rational English person would move to Hungary?)

Just because I choose to argue a point with you doesn't mean I'm taking offfence over it. Dont flatter yourself little man. I see nothing ignoble about Magyar. There is nothing wrong with drinking milk. Do you think there is? haha..whatever. Youre probably of Frankish barbarian decent anyway.
 
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lol. ..Damn, angry, ad hom filled, post. I wonder if you are delusional enough to actually buy your own incompetend arguments. I don't think I have the time to weed all the way through your senselessness. But just a few simple things..

Oh Vlad...how unsupported your assertions are. You see why don't you mind showing all these simply amazing things you said. If they are so "incomplete" they should be easily refuted, yet you like oth say many things but mean nothing.

Ethnocentrism is often labeled as racism.

Well that just goes to show how idiotic ppl are with semantics. Words are almost constantly being mis-used for example the word liberal, that is a misusage at least in the US. Now Ethnocentrism is a much more apporiate term for what you suffer from then racism, because again there is only one race. Breedism would also be a much more apporiate term.

Speaking derogatorily about Slavs for example is known as racism.

To my knowledge Slavic is not a race but rather a lingustic grouping, a offshoot of Indo-European languages. Slavic does not denote a race of ppl but rather their culture, and their language. Saying something derogatory against Slavs is by definition Ethnocentric not racist.

This is because there are different meanings for the word 'race'. One meaning refers to the very scientific construction of 'race', of which there only 3.

Which three? It would be impossble then for humans of these "races" to pro-create with each other. Cats and Dogs are races, and within these races they have different breeds, breeds that are mixed are muts. The same thing applies to human beings, you don't go around calling a weiner dog the weiner race do you? Then why are humans so exceptional? We aren't.

Race - A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.

That's exactly why its a revisitionist position about what race is, that is from a philosophical standpoint not a scientific one like I mentioned before. Just because dictionary.com says it does not mean it is true. One cannot be that ignorant can they? The purpose of the dictionary is to tell you if the meaning of the term, not if the term is semantically correct.

In common vocabulary the word racism is based on this latter more general definition. This is the definition you must have been using the many times in this thread that you've called people 'racist' for speaking ill of Palestinians, or the many times you’ve called me racist for deriding Arab culture.

Yes I have because that would have been so much easier for you to understand. Really what I should have been saying is ethnocentric idiot instead of racist idiot, but I digress. Secondly again just because it is in common useage does not in anyway denote that what is being said is correctly being used.

Palestinians or Arabs aren't a race. lol..so dont chastice me for using definitions that you constantly use, you little weasel.

I am aware of that, but what I have to say is that they are breeds of the human race, although I did state those things in the past it is largley because I didn't want this conversation to happen, I needed to dumb it down for ya. Now I have to note that your "rebuttal" is not against my actual argument it is merely trying to use my own words against me, essentially a attack on me rather then my argument. So for those who think I have been "raped" think again.

As for this, your one breed argument proves we are all human. Have I ever said otherwise? No.

By definition you did, if you consider yourself a racist you do by default. A racist hates a certain people from the moment they are born, not through experience but through assumption. You innately believe that other "races" are inferior to your Asian stock, thus anything inferior to you (whom you consider a human) is not human. A human...all humans are by definition equal from birth, but since you do not believe that they cannot be human.

Your ‘argument’ is useless.

That's what you would like to think it is...you aren't offering any form of rebutall.

We are all humans, but there are different types of humans. Not that complicated. You can assign special value to the fact we can exclusively breed with each other, but that is just a value. There are plenty of other more exclusionary or inclusionary places which we can demarcate to make groupings. It all depends on context.

Good Bull Shitting...I liked the filler...but your stance is still inane.

My response then was that obviously you do seek to dissuade people from racism, because to them race does exist.

No because I did not say..."you should not be a racist" I said "it would be stupid of you to be a racist", those two are completely different things. I am not talking in normative terms here, I am not doing a should or should not. I am talking in merely logical terms...we are one race, and as a result you being a racist is being a self-hating human. Sorry but I am not doing anything but showing ppl how idiotic your stance really is. Should they agree that is through the power of argument not persuation.

As evidenced by your constant crusade against racism. No ones ‘appealing to the majority’, you're getting confused, again.

Actually yes you were: Well it does exist for most people, and you want to change their minds.

You are saying there that since it exists for most ppl it must be right. I don't want to change their minds that's not my objective, my objective to expose your ignorance (you must understand I don't make you look ignorant, you make urself look ignorant I just show the ppl). Should the ppl reading this out of their own will agree with me, that is because they willed to. I am not forcing anyone to do anything...nevermind it is a physical impossibility.

Science recognizes that there is a human race and also sub human races.
That is a innately contradictory sentence...this is why you look stupid. Science agrees there is one race, and different breeds not sub-races. Sub-races would not be able to pro-create.

No I argue with you just as you argue with me, the only difference is that I don't persist with these deluded notions that I am always ‘winning’. Rape phase?

Sorry but that's what the many wouls say on the community, since we are not in an objective state here, the opinions of the majority do matter, and OVERWHELMINGLY they seem to think that I am one of the smartest members on this forum. These are not my words, I am not gloating but you forced me to tell you. I do usually "win", I am sorry if you can't take being a sore loser but that is the reality.

Politic dialectic is not about winning and losing. It's about comparing values. You constantly assert your values as logically inpenetrable truths. That's the most ultimate form of ignorance.

Firslty I never even asserted my values are logically inpenetrable that is what u must think of my values. Secondly sci is not so much for a dialectic as it is a compeition I have been on sci long enough to know this first hand. I am certain that my presence here has probably impacted the way the forum works to a large extent, because the same way the I had to adapt to the forum, the forum adapted to me. I am a very confrontation person its in my blood, if you don't like that then cry to mama because this daddy ain't caring. Thirdly the highest form of ignorance is being a racist, alas you, the highest form of ignorance if self-hatred...alas you. The highest form of ignorance is not listening to reason, alas you. The highest form of ignorance is having a vendetta agianst me, alas you.

You have used the word 'superior' in refference to yourself numerous times now ...lol even if you *were *superior that is just pathetic.

Only to you...which I think I have proven rather effectively, it seems the will of the community is actually behind me on this one. See I recognize that "superiority" is a perspective based assertion, and it seems that the perception is in my favour.

You said in another thread that you have destroyed the Zionest argument many times on this board before.

I have throughly destroyed many of the Zionists assertions, that is true. But destroying a innately fallacious ideology is rather simple to do, and one is for sure you have only destroyed your cred Vlad by trying (rather unsuccessfully I mught add) to attack me the person.

But if youre a Godboy, your delusional rightiousness does make sense then. You obviously believe in 'moral truths'. Just keep in mind moral truthes are unprovable, and going around telling everybody who doesn't agree with your sense of morailiy that they are stupid and ignorant just makes you appear ignorant.

The difference is that whether I use a Kantian, Utilitarian perspective my positions are MUCH more ethical then yours.

BTW, youre not a very good Christian. Two wrongs don't make a right, so being a racist to me because I am a racist is not very 'moral'.

It's a Kantian position, not a xtian one. Nor have I ever asserted I was a good xtian.


I see nothing ignoble about Magyar. There is nothing wrong with drinking milk. Do you think there is? haha..whatever. Youre probably of Frankish barbarian decent anyway

Yes you do think somethign ignoble about Magyars because why would you lie and call your self a British decendant who were decendants of Norman barbarians, who were in turn decedants of the Franks? You obviously hate your own race, and yourself. Otherwise there would be no need to call yourself of English decent you sad excuse of a human being. No actually I am probably from Basque decent the original European bitch.

You know, ignoramus, the whole concept of White/European is based on caucasian. The original Europeans were actually from Asia.

I am aware of that, that's why its called caucasian (white ppl) but that doesn't mean you are white you have that Asian blood running through your vains, blood you have even lied about to stop short of admitting that you are ethically Hungarian. Right...Prince Charles? LOL!
 
Wow, I love how you totally make a fool out of yourself with your hypocritical stance on the meaning of racism, and still act like you're not an idiot. This delusion of yours is insurmountable.

I'm not going to continue this stupid discussion about character because it's really creepy. Needless to say you apparently think you’re one of the most brilliant minds on this forum and that everybody agrees. I guess they can back you up on this if they want to. I have not seen ANY evidence for either of these things so I'm going to sum up all these claims you keep making as more delusion.

I'll respond to the actual substantitive arguments we're having.

Well that just goes to show how idiotic ppl are with semantics.

Well if thats the case you are obviously the idiot to blame since you set the precedent. You kept calling me racist for my negative views on muslim culture, so I was just applying your own standards to you regards your insults about Hungarians.

Now Ethnocentrism is a much more apporiate term for what you suffer from then racism, because again there is only one race. Breedism would also be a much more apporiate term.

Which three? It would be impossble then for humans of these "races" to pro-create with each other. Cats and Dogs are races, and within these races they have different breeds, breeds that are mixed are muts. The same thing applies to human beings, you don't go around calling a weiner dog the weiner race do you? Then why are humans so exceptional? We aren't

Generally science considers three racial groupings Negroid, Caucasoid and Mongoloid. Interbreeding is NOT what establishes something as race..God knows where you have gotten this notion from...do a little bit of research before you flaunt you ignorance. When something can breed with something else that defines it as the same SPECIES. Race actually refers to a subset of a species. Humans are a species, and the notion of race is, based on the terms ive just outlined, only applicable as a subset of the human species. It can only exist as that definition. So the whole 'human race' agenda you're trying to force is just erroneous. 'Human race' is just a bit of popular vocab that has no real legitimate meaning. Not technically anyway.


Yes I have because that would have been so much easier for you to understand. Really what I should have been saying is ethnocentric idiot instead of racist idiot, .. I needed to dumb it down for ya. .


You know very well I would understand fine what 'ethnocentric' means. Youre just saying this now because I've proved you to be a hypocrite by your own standards and you would rather paint it in a way that makes you look less foolish.

Secondly again just because it is in common useage does not in anyway denote that what is being said is correctly being used.

Yes but you were using it 'incorrectly' first. And then you started having a go at me for using it the same way> What is your malfunction, hypocrite?

am aware of that, but what I have to say is that they are breeds of the human race

Again, in biology the word 'race' denotes a subset of a species; it is actually interchangeable with 'breed'. The only conceptual difference between these two words is that race usually applies specifically to humans and we say breed about other animals. See, by choosing to call human subspecies ‘breeds’ instead of ‘races’ you’re actually not getting anywhere because they essentially mean the same thing. They both imply quantifyable genotypic differences between organisms of a larger group. What you're trying to do is prove that races don't exist but youve actually through you own inept understanding of words adopted an argument that proves that races do exist. How tragic..Lofl..


A racist hates a certain people from the moment they are born, not through experience but through assumption. You innately believe that other "races" are inferior to your Asian stock, thus anything inferior to you (whom you consider a human) is not human. A human...all humans are by definition equal from birth, but since you do not believe that they cannot be human.

None of this conforms with anything I believe at all. Youre just talking nonsense.

No because I did not say..."you should not be a racist" I said "it would be stupid of you to be a racist", those two are completely different things. I am not talking in normative terms here, I am not doing a should or should not. I am talking in merely logical terms...we are one race, and as a result you being a racist is being a self-hating human. Sorry but I am not doing anything but showing ppl how idiotic your stance really is. Should they agree that is through the power of argument not persuation.

No what you said was that it would be impossible for you to prevent people being racist because race does not exist. There is absolutely nothing logical about that. People can still be ‘racist’, you yourself tell them they are being racist all the time, even if there is no such thing as race. In fact it is the very belief that there is that defines racism.

That is a innately contradictory sentence...this is why you look stupid. Science agrees there is one race, and different breeds not sub-races. Sub-races would not be able to pro-create

Your ignorance is embarrassing. Science agrees that there is one human species. It has an ongoing debate over whether races actually exists within that species. Humans as a collective do not constitute a race. Race by definition is a subdivision of a species. So either it exists as those subdivision/s or not at all. You seem to think it does anyway by claiming there are 'breeds', which is just a strange way of saying the same thing; that there are logical genetic groupings to be made among humans. Since I have not asserted there are or are not there is not reason for us to have that complicated debate anyway. Suffice to say that you yourself are a racist since you believe that there exist breeds/races within the human species. I on the other hand have a more ambivalent attutude to the matter. haha

And if you’re going to respond here, please consult a few encyclopedias and dictionaries & learn the requisite key terms: race, species, monotypic, polytypic, organism, breed ect. I’m sick of having to explain rudimentary definitions to you.

You are saying there that since it exists for most ppl it must be right.

I did not say that anywhere.

Sorry but that's what the many would say on the community, since we are not in an objective state here, the opinions of the majority do matter, and OVERWHELMINGLY they seem to think that I am one of the smartest members on this forum. These are not my words, I am not gloating but you forced me to tell you. I do usually "win", I am sorry if you can't take being a sore loser but that is the reality.

lofl. I did not force you to tell. You offer these claims to superiority constantly and voluntarily.. I'm merely offering you some advice on how not to come off so self-deluded. Why do the opinion of the majority matter? EVER? Youre sad.

Firslty I never even asserted my values are logically inpenetrable that is what u must think of my values. Secondly sci is not so much for a dialectic as it is a compeition I have been on sci long enough to know this first hand. I am certain that my presence here has probably impacted the way the forum works to a large extent, because the same way the I had to adapt to the forum, the forum adapted to me. I am a very confrontation person its in my blood, if you don't like that then cry to mama because this daddy ain't caring. Thirdly the highest form of ignorance is being a racist, alas you, the highest form of ignorance if self-hatred...alas you. The highest form of ignorance is not listening to reason, alas you. The highest form of ignorance is having a vendetta agianst me, alas you.

Boring, more ad homs. Vendetta? Are you serious? Man quit the drama. I dont even talk to you. Youre always the one quoting me. And usually I'm ignoring you.

Only to you...which I think I have proven rather effectively, it seems the will of the community is actually behind me on this one. See I recognize that "superiority" is a perspective based assertion, and it seems that the perception is in my favour.

If superiority is perspective maybe you should stop claiming to be superior? That's like me telling you I'm better cause my mom thinks I am. Where is this 'will of the community'? Popularity is a shame anyway. I would actually be embarrassed to say something like ‘my superiority over you is guaranteed’ true or not...Jesus I cringe.

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I have throughly destroyed many of the Zionists assertions, that is true. But destroying a innately fallacious ideology is rather simple to do,

and one is for sure you have only destroyed your cred Vlad by trying (rather unsuccessfully I mught add) to attack me the person

With your constant 'I win you lose you lose, youre wrong I'm right' mentality don't expect not be called on it. As for Zionism, that is just an ideal/value. It simply means that Israel has the right to exist as a state. That is always going to be a matter of opinion. It appeals to morals and ethics and values. Thus logic can't prove it or disprove it. It's like saying 'The Beatles are Good'. It can't be fallacious because it doesnt appeal to logic. Your claiming it is a matter of logic is but ignorance. Your belief that you constantly & casually debunk Zionism is based on you ignorance & delusion.

The difference is that whether I use a Kantian, Utilitarian perspective my positions are MUCH more ethical then yours.

Oh and you think being more 'ethical' equates automatically with being right? haah no. There is no reason why your views are more ethical than mine anyway.

Yes you do think somethign ignoble about Magyars because why would you lie and call your self a British decendant who were decendants of Norman barbarians, who were in turn decedants of the Franks? You obviously hate your own race, and yourself. Otherwise there would be no need to call yourself of English decent you sad excuse of a human being. No actually I am probably from Basque decent the original European bitch.

I am currently sitting in Australia, I live here half the year, My parents were born here. Get a mod to do an IP check. Please stop pretending you have a clue about me.

Not all Britons descend from Franks, actually not that many at all.

Please just stick to the more relevant arguments anyway. My ethnicity should have nothing to do with it.

I am aware of that, that's why its called caucasian (white ppl) but that doesn't mean you are white you have that Asian blood running through your vains.

Well then really by your current definition European blood IS Asian Blood, since Europeans come from the caucasus and caucasus is in 'central Asia (it's not actually, ignoramus, it's in Eastern Europe/Western Asia)'.
 
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Wow, I love how you totally make a fool out of yourself with your hypocritical stance on the meaning of racism, and still act like you're not an idiot. This delusion of yours is insurmountable.

I never said that I believed in the words I was using, I was using those words because they are in common usage unfortunately, and I didn’t want to get into this very conversation with you because it would amount to the usual garbage that you habitually spew in our faces.

I have not seen ANY evidence for either of these things so I'm going to sum up all these claims you keep making as more delusion.

Here biatch and STFU:

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=41471 (read the comments)

Even oth called me an intellectual when the genius thought I was a Native American, ppl have asked me to actually Tutor them:

Quote from a poster (should you want names, PM me):

Undecided, tell me. How are you so good at all this? How do you know so much?... Your writing is excellent, your reasoning is brilliant. In other words, every time you post, the other person knows he's going to lose his argument. I guess you can say I'm a big admirer of you. I'm willing to learn. I'm willing to listen, or read. Well, I do read, but it turns out that my arguments are nothing but imiations of what I read. It's really hard for me to be original and construct my own argument with my own words. I'm somebody who has a hard time putting his thoughts into words. Undecided, I was hoping if you could help me. You know, be a mentor or tutor. I know I can learn a lot from you.

-or-

I admire your posting on economics mate , I like debating your claims , very interesting , where do you source your information ?

Do you know what I said to him being the supposed arrogant ass you suppose I am:

To answer your questions, I don’t know all that much considering I am only starting university on the 8th. To tell you the truth it’s not what you know but how to take your conviction and turn that into knowledge…That’s what irks me so about so many people on Earth, ignorance, and superstition reign supreme. You know how I know that I am right…if I piss both sides off…You have to question EVERYTHING…I’ve lost arguments sometimes as well, I am human I do go too far sometimes…You are your own tutor, you just have untapped potential.

OH WHAT A BASTARD I AM…the only one delusional here Vlad is you…not me. Chupa mis bolas. Since I am an empiricist it seems that the majority of the forum does think I am rather more intelligent then you. Moving on…

Well if thats the case you are obviously the idiot to blame since you set the precedent. You kept calling me racist for my negative views on muslim culture, so I was just applying your own standards to you regards your insults about Hungarians.

No on Arabs…not on Muslims so much, we didn’t talk about the Jungle Muslims we were talking about the Sand Muslims who are mostly Arabic. But then you must agree that Anti-Semitism is even more idiotic, something you like to utter without even knowing the term. You know what Semitic means…language. I doubt many ppl hate the Hebrew language. But like the ignorant masses like yourself, sallow it up because it makes your little life so much easier. You are so ignorant I would even imagine that you think being Jewish a racial characteristic…lol. If so then I am a Jew…I missed my bar mitzvah! Oh but that doesn’t matter…its not dependant on religion right…LMFAO!

Generally science considers three racial groupings Negroid, Caucasoid and Mongoloid. Interbreeding is NOT what establishes something as race.

Again scientifically races cannot pro-create, thus by definitions these are breeds not races.

Breed:
1. A group of organisms having common ancestors and certain distinguishable characteristics, especially a group within a species developed by artificial selection and maintained by controlled propagation.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=breeds


A group…alas all human breeds, having a common ancestor, and we do have distinguishable characteristics but still one race. But that IS NOT RACIAL, that is breed based. This is what you consider a race you fool.

Race actually refers to a subset of a species. Humans are a species, and the notion of race is, based on the terms ive just outlined,

Species and race is interchangeable, they are essentially the same thing. Human race, Human species, they are two words that mean the same thing…alas a synonym. I know you had trouble in your remedial English class (oddly enough Prince Charles eh?), but the reality is that you are looking more pathetic then before. Just admit you are wrong…because you know you are.

You know very well I would understand fine what 'ethnocentric' means.

How can I make such a conclusion when you don’t even know that race and species are interchangeable? How can I take seriously a man who promotes expelling millions of ppl into the desert, how can I take seriously God’s mistake?

Youre just saying this now because I've proved you to be a hypocrite by your own standards and you would rather paint it in a way that makes you look less foolish.

I am only a hypocrite in the sense that I stooped to your level, I shouldn’t have done so, I am sorry to only myself. I used race so that this conversation didn’t have to happen, this largely useless tangent, and Electric over there would have probably closed the thread, so to appease your ignorance I dumbed down my language for you. Let’s see how much of a hypocrite you are…and how you do indeed conform to me observe:

Your Kant = Jew faux par is nice though because its so obvious that not even your delusion can escape it.

I cant be bothered searching for it, but its in the Palestinian/relocation thread.

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=712612

-but-

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=712667

Or how about this gem:

i don't hate anyone.

-yet-

I am happy for you to be racist..to me to anyone.

By definition you hate ppl…stupid ren, observe:

1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=racist

Then you go on to state even more stupidity:

European over Asian, Asian over African, and so forth. and these preference are bases in what I see as cultural differences not genetic ones.

Yet if it is culturally, not genetically based then you cannot be a racist…yet why do you say you are? GOD YOU ARE AN IDIOT… seriously. This Vlad is what I call a “rape” , so go grow some balls and talk to me ok?

Yes but you were using it 'incorrectly' first.

Are we in Gr.2 or what?

And then you started having a go at me for using it the same way> What is your malfunction, hypocrite?

My problem is not that you use the stupid term, my problem is how you can take pride in the fact that you are a racist (when you aren’t even really a racist by its own definitions)! Firstly you want to talk about hypocracy…lets review:

When I questioned your background you said you were British, but then why would you deny you are Hungarian if you aren’t a self-hating Hungarian? Why did you lie? Secondly why did you take offence at my “racist” comments if you will that it be a universal maxim? You are a pussy by the looks of it; you know they say you shouldn’t throw stones when you live in a glass house. You think me using a stupid word if being hypocritical, but at least my mind isn’t so schizoid that I live in two worlds at the same time.

See, by choosing to call human subspecies ‘breeds’ instead of ‘races’ you’re actually not getting anywhere because they essentially mean the same thing.

No because again a race cannot interbreed, because species and race are interchangeable. How can we be different races…if we originate from the same common ancestor by definition genius (which I did show you) it a distinction based on breeds not race. We are a common species/race, with multiple breeds. Different races would not be connected by a common ancestor.

None of this conforms with anything I believe at all.

I don’t give two shits what you believe; it is what you have to believe. Its like saying… I am a xtian but I don’t believe in Jesus…that’s ignorance and that’s what you are trying to pull. You don’t even know what racist is, and you use the stupid term. You hate black ppl for instance because they are black thus from the moment they are born they are inferior and not human. That is what you mean when you say “I am a racist” reject…hello. If I am talking nonsense you are talking jibberish…your opinion does not matter when it comes to objective fact.
No what you said was that it would be impossible for you to prevent people being racist because race does not exist.

It is out of their own ignorant volition (which you show so well) that they believe such races exist. When a person says they are racist…what they really mean is ethnocentric because being black is not the point of contention it is their culture, at least to most accounts.

Your ignorance is embarrassing. Science agrees that there is one human species. It has an ongoing debate over whether races actually exists within that species.

LOL oh no your ignorance of the English language is apparent…look at your sentences here. First you say I am ignorant…but then concede that there is a debate. Thus it is YOU not me who is being a intellectual narcissist by stating x is fact when you even admit that there is no definite answer. You are doing the exact same thing you CLAIM I do.

Suffice to say that you yourself are a racist since you believe that there exist breeds/races within the human species. I on the other hand have a more ambivalent attutude to the matter. Haha

I am a positive breedist, not a negative racist like yourself.

And if you’re going to respond here, please consult a few encyclopedias and dictionaries & learn the requisite key terms: race, species, monotypic, polytypic, organism, breed ect. I’m sick of having to explain rudimentary definitions to you.

I already did for breed, and it agrees with all my assertions…again: Chupa mis bolas

I did not say that anywhere.

Then you are illiterate …as shown by your inability to make coherent sentences…

Why do the opinion of the majority matter? EVER? Youre sad.

I’ll tell you why, because it’s based on SUBJECTIVE views…intelligence is not an objective fact. It is a perceived one, and if the majority of those who can perceive agree that x is true…in a empirical way it is as close to truth as one can get…so STFU, learn some philosophy.

Vendetta? Are you serious? Man quit the drama. I dont even talk to you. Youre always the one quoting me. And usually I'm ignoring you.

Oh really??? Then what is this:

lol, but the thing is it's unlikely that anyone will ever be able to present you with arguments that you consider refutation, not because your views are irrefutable, but because your just arrogant, supremacist, and in love with your own views. I have observed this about you ever since ive been posting here. You think you’re indestructible but you’re really not. Sometimes you even struggle with basic facts. That's why I just started mocking you after a while.


That genius is a vendetta…GET A BRAIN. Look:


Which you even admit that the only reason you post against me is to cause ad homs, not to get into a conversation…hypocrite. You want a feud, you got one, and your bleeding to death…funny enough by your own words.

Where is this 'will of the community'? Popularity is a shame anyway.

I know ask Bush…

It simply means that Israel has the right to exist as a state.

It means OH SO much more…that’s why you don’t know anything about it. I know CNN speak and you do quite well.

Oh and you think being more 'ethical' equates automatically with being right? haah no.

Yes…by definition it does…unethical means wrong. Ethics exists to determine right and wrong…HELLO BRAIN? Hmmm???

There is no reason why your views are more ethical than mine anyway.

Again there is a way…Kantian and Utilitarian at both you fail. If you will there to be racist world…then you aren’t rational to Kant, thus the second categorical imperative kicks in…treat all rational humans as ends not means being a racist by definition ignores that commandment of Kant thus it is unethical, and you are irrational. Thus I should NOT treat you with any respect, because you are not a rational being. HAH!

I am currently sitting in Australia, I live here half the year, My parents were born here. Get a mod to do an IP check. Please stop pretending you have a clue about me.

You are a proven liar now as welll (if not even before) observe:

I am Hungarian born, living in Serbia.

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=669027

Hmm…LOL and you say I am sad boy? Oh by you said your parents moved to Serbia…you said you lived in Serbia…you said so many lies. You said you were English…not Hungarian…you posted that well within that “half-yr” period.

Not all Britons descend from Franks, actually not that many at all.

Actually yes…the Roman and celtic cultures were pretty much goners by 1066, famine, disease, etc. Also the Frankish empire under Charlemagne was know as the Western Empire.

My ethnicity should have nothing to do with it.

It has everything to do with it…EVERYTHING because you will it as such.

Well then really by your current definition European blood IS Asian Blood, since Europeans come from the caucasus and caucasus is in 'central Asia (it's not actually, ignoramus, it's in Eastern Europe/Western Asia)'.

Let’ see why you are an IGNORANT person who I am amazed God allows to live:

I am not Asian. I don’t look or act anything like an Asian. I look like a white European, because I am. Your assertions that Hungarians are not Europeans are laughable to any Hungarian.

Whom has the last laugh Asian? Also since I have some Basque blood no, it doesn’t affect me about this Caucasus thing. Go and be a slave, because you don't deserve respect...just ask Kant.
 
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