Israel, Palestine and the Arab/Israel Conflict

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spidergoat said:
I disagree with your premise, and your numbers. Israel was fighting PLO terrorists in Lebanon. Terrorists that had no problem with killing and torturing civilians, and using them to hide behind.
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Whirlwind replies.... :eek:

Oh yes, the perpetual Jewish "victims" have had a problem with "terrorism" forever and a day..... seems they have a propensity for stealing other people's property based on the "Bible Stories" their parents read to then when they were baby apartheidniks.

Interesting, but the LIKUDNIK killers, led by mass murderer Ariel Sharon, have done more to make that tsunami of anti-Semitism that circles the planet every 90 minutes bigger and bigger than the most ardent anti-Semite in Europe and beyond.

Whirlwind....

Read and grow wise.....

http://www.robert-fisk.com/articles3.htm

Then go to GOOGLE and type in "ISRAEL'S KHIAM TORTURE PRISON," so you will learn just how good the IDF/SLA were in murdering and torturing innocent Palestinian and Lebanese civilains. :(
 
I dont have time to answer all your crap today, but
the khiam prison was not Israeli. It belonged to the south lebanon army. They were christians allied to Israel.

I will answer the rest of your misinformed posts later.
 
Whirlwind said:
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While the Jewish owned and controlled US media
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LOL I can't stop laughing at this :D Whirlwind you should change your intro to
"posts for conspiracy theorists"
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Eluminate said:
when a civilian straps a bomb to his chest he is no longer a civilian and he is armed.
he should be shot in the head from far away with a sniper rifle due to being a danger to actual civilians.
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Eluminating the Eluminator..... :eek:

Hahahaha, the length that human beings who, sitting in America, in the safety of their homes, point fingers and assigning designations as to who is the TERRORIST and who is the VICTIM in a tiny nation (Palestine) fighting the scourge of Zionist trespassers.

If "you" were attacked by a well armed army of thugs, while all you had to fight with was the stones in your backyard, you'd kick arse with whatever God gave you to fight with, including your trusty bomb belt with 10 Kgs. of dynamite, 1 kilo of penny nails and a pinch of (how appropriate) RAT POISON as is done by the Paly's in their forays into Israel.

I remember when American's were the protectors of the downtrodden and victims of thugs and murderers - like in WW II.

Now, we're the leading cause of death of 95% of the Arabs in the Middle East who's only crime is to have the "Oil" America needs and demands.

Whirlwind.... :D
 
Palestine would be a sizable nation if they hadn't ganged up with 9 major powers to destroy the emergence of a Jewish state, in their ancestral homeland, contrary to UN partition and international law.

Couldn't name any Arab or group of Arabs that killed 1,000 Jews, couldja? Didn't I tellya?
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If you want to ignore the line between war and murder, 6373 Jews were killed, by arabs, during the 1948 war. I'd call the invasion of Lebanon a war, and shit happens during war, that's why most people avoid it.
 
savory said:
Whirlwind, keep it up.. people will eventually see the truth.

When a country is stealing your territory and flying helicopters into what little of your territory is left to assasinate people, then that country should be retaliated against in any manner.

The actions of Israel do not resemble anything close to a human. Completely irresponsible, immoral and wreckless.. all with Americans like me footing the bill.
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Great post SAVORY!
("POST OF THE DAY" = 2 gold stars to my main man!)

Yep, you bet I will keep it up (GOT VIAGRA! :D ) and CC will have to live with the ulcers I am giving him. :)

We have massacred an alledged 20,000 innocent civilains in Iraq & Afghanistan (Innocent children in Afghanistan are still dying from our unexploded cluster bombs - and does the US media report it? :mad: ) over the past 18 months over our rage of what happened at the WTC - and what did those innocents do to us?

Nothing! Nada!

We American's have become the bullies of the new Millennium. We have forgotten that we live on a planet with 7 billion other human beings and that other people's lives are as precious as ours and that we don't have "A RIGHT TO SUCK UP 3/5ths OF THE WORLD'S RESOURCES JUST BECAUSE WE ARE A SPOLIED & VERY GLUTTONOUS NATION."

American's, after world war II, were loved throughout the planet - in Argentina, Peru, Bolivia and Ecuador and Mexico where I have traveled I have seen streets or boulevards named after John F. Kennedy.

Today American's need to wear a kevlar vest, when traveling outside our borders, because of dunces like G. W. Bush.

In Europe people conserve gasoline and do not abuse natural resources, with prohibitive prices placed on these commodities. In America we say: "Screw the world, I'm keeping my family SUV, my Sports car, my work car, and my gasoline powered toys and the people of Bengladesh can suck camel's milk! "

In gluttonous America, our "attitude" is reflected by a people BURSTING AT THE SEAMS FROM OBESITY from this gluttoney. Fact is: The average 12 year old kid in America can't even do 10 chin ups! But he can eat a large pizza alone at one sitting!

One day, Israel and the US will be reminded, much as the VC reminded us in Vietnam: "NO MATTER HOW INSIGNIFICANT I MAY BE TO YOU, "DON'T THREAD ON ME!"

As I look back, I really appreciate the time when Russia had 18,000 MIRV'D warheads pointed at us atop their SS-19 and SS-20 ICBM's.

Oh, we were so nice to everyone, especially our adversaries!

The guy that invented the term "THE ONLY SUPER POWER IN THE WORLD" should have been castrated - we haven't been the same since!

Whirlwind...
 
for fuck sakes do you guys ever shut up? I can sum up the hundreds of these threads in four sentences:

Arabs are evil!
no they're not, Jews are evil!
no, Arabs are dickhead!
are not, Jews are assface!

don't you guys ever tired of this shit?
 
spidergoat said:
Palestine would be a sizable nation if they hadn't ganged up with 9 major powers to destroy the emergence of a Jewish state, in their ancestral homeland, contrary to UN partition and international law.


If you want to ignore the line between war and murder, 6373 Jews were killed, by arabs, during the 1948 war. I'd call the invasion of Lebanon a war, and shit happens during war, that's why most people avoid it.
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Hahahaha, let me reconstruct (in a more truthful manner) your recollection if history,* OK?

If the Zionist trespassers "got ganged up on" it was of their own doing. You would have done the same if some shell shocked suckers coming from Europe with shiny automatic Czeh weapons purchased by US and European Jews in their hands, and an "expired" 2,000 year old lease in their back pockets, attempted to kick you off your back 40 and reclaim the land in the name of the Bible stories their Mammies read to them when they were just baby apartheidniks, wouldja?

Besides, there were no 9 Arab armies to meet them - this is a Zionist lie, created to make the Zionist bullies apppear to be the (yep) ETERNAL VICTIMS THEY'RE ALWAYS CLAIMING OT BE (SOB-SOB).

Actually, the Arabs (and some Jews that had been living "in peace" with the Arabs) fought the Zionist slime with rusty old English Enfield rifles, stones, sticks and Molotov cocktails (you know, like in today's Palestine), as the Zionist trespassers and killers, like Force-1's Ariel Sharon's gang-of-wanton-killers, murdered, maimed, wounded and displaced Arabs in their land grab, while buring down over 400 Arab villages and Mosques (Often with people still inside).

Check your facts and like CC, you will stand corrected! :rolleyes:

Whirlwind....

"Seems every Zionist is a history major."
 
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ETERNAL VICTIMS THEY'RE ALWAYS CLAIMING OT BE (SOB-SOB).

...sounds like the Palestinians, sore loosers.
 
Spidergoat,

How can you call martyrs who are living in heaven and surrounded by 72 virgins "losers"? By the way, I heard heaven rule has just changed and the number has been reduced by half, so any martyr in the near future can only be given 36 virgins. From an unknown heaven source, virgins demand greatly exceeds supply so in the future, martyrs might have to settle with non-virgins only.
 
Sept. 9, 2003 - A suicide bomber detonated an explosive device at the entrance of the "Hillel Caf?" in Jerusalem. Seven Israelis were killed and 70 injured.

Aug. 19, 2003 - A suicide bomber wearing an explosive belt blew himself up on a No. 2 bus line in Jerusalem, resulting in the death of 23 Israelis and the injury of 115.

Aug. 12, 2003 - A suicide bomber wearing an explosive belt blew himself up near a bus stop at the entrance to Ariel. Two Israelis were killed and two others injured.

June 11, 2003 - A suicide bomber wearing an explosive belt blew himself up on the No. 14 bus line in Jerusalem. Seventeen Israelis were killed and 104 were injured.

May 18, 2003 - A suicide bomber wearing an explosive belt, detonated himself on a bus at the French Hill Junction in Jerusalem. Seven Israelis were killed and 20 were wounded.

May 17, 2003 - A suicide bomber dressed as a religious Jew, and wearing an explosive belt, blew himself up in Hebron's Gross Square, killing two Israeli civilians.

April 30, 2003 - A suicide bomber detonated an explosive belt at the entrance to the "Mike's Place" pub on the Tel Aviv boardwalk. An additional suicide bomber hurled an explosive device nearby. Three Israeli civilians were killed and 62 were wounded.

March 5, 2003 - A suicide bomber blew himself up on the No. 37 bus line in Haifa. Seventeen Israeli civilians were killed, and 42 were wounded.

Nov. 21, 2002 - A suicide bomber detonated an explosive belt on the No. 20 bus line in Jerusalem. Eleven Israelis were killed, and 50 were wounded.

Oct. 27, 2002 - A suicide bomber wearing an explosive belt detonated himself, despite being shot, at the gas station near the entrance to the city of Ariel. Three Israeli civilians were killed, and 17 were wounded.

Oct. 10, 2002 - A suicide bomber wearing an explosive belt detonated himself near a bus stop at the Bar Ilan Bridge in Ramat Gan. One Israeli civilian was killed, and 20 were wounded.

Sept. 19, 2002 - A suicide bomber detonated a bag laden with explosives on the No. 4 bus line on Allenby Street in Tel Aviv, in which six Israelis were killed and 66 were injured.

Aug. 4, 2002 - A suicide bomber detonated an explosive device strapped to his body on a bus traveling near Mt. Meron in northern Israel. Nine Israeli civilians were killed, and 48 wounded.

June 18, 2002 - A suicide bomber detonated an explosives-laden bag on a bus traveling along Dov-Yosef Street in Jerusalem. Nineteen civilians were killed, and 50 wounded.

May 7, 2002 - A suicide bomber detonated an explosive belt and an additional explosive device in a bag, at a club in Rishon Letzion. Sixteen Israeli civilians were killed, and 51 were wounded.

March 31, 2002 - A suicide bomber detonated himself at the "Matzah" restaurant in Haifa. Fifteen Israeli civilians were killed and 31 were wounded.

March 27, 2002 - A suicide bomber blew himself up with an explosive belt in the Park Hotel in Netanya. Thirty Israeli civilians were killed and 144 were wounded.

March 9, 2002 - A suicide bomber detonated an explosive device strapped to his body at the entrance of the "Moment" Cafe in Jerusalem. Eleven Israeli civilians were killed and 58 were wounded.

Dec. 12, 2001 - Two suicide bombers detonate explosive devices next to Israeli vehicles in the area of Ganei Tal in the Gaza Strip, while an additional explosive device is detonated near another Israeli vehicle. Three Israeli civilians were injured.

Dec. 2, 2001 - A suicide bomber detonated an explosive device concealed under a coat on a bus near Yad L'banim in Haifa. Fifteen civilians were killed and 35 wounded.

Dec. 1, 2001 - Two suicide bombers detonated explosive devices concealed in bags on Ben Yehudah Street in Jerusalem. Immediately following, a car bomb exploded nearby. Eleven civilians were killed and 170 wounded.

Aug. 9, 2001 - A suicide bomber blew himself up at the Sbarro restaurant in Jerusalem. Fifteen Israelis were killed and 110 wounded.

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the list is much longer than this.
you count the death toll...
the abovementioned list is a partial list of attacks, perpetrated only against civilians

these are the facts on the ground

how would you suggest Israel to respond, mr. John Nash?
 
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Otheadp, please try not to flame Whirlwind. I know it's difficult, but you cannot feed the trolls.

-- The Grand Dragon Gizzard
 
*sigh*

he sounds like an intelligent guy...
am i putting my hopes up too much when i'm waiting for an intelligent response from him?
 
spidergoat said:
Israel profoundly regrets the loss of human life at Kana and has thoroughly investigated this tragic incident which was caused, first and foremost, by the firing of Katyusha rockets and mortars by Hizbullah from a location in close proximity to the UN position.
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"Germany and especially the Gestapo wrecking crew and gas shower head pipe fitters union, profoundly regret the loss of life in Austzwich, Treblinka and the Warsaw ghetto."

Signed: Adolf Eichmann.*

*See how absured your statement sounds and feels? :rolleyes:

Whirlwind....
 
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spidergoat said:
I disagree with your premise, and your numbers. Israel was fighting PLO terrorists in Lebanon. Terrorists that had no problem with killing and torturing civilians, and using them to hide behind.
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Your tacos are getting cold -- and your Corona's are getting hot, amigo! :D

Whirlwind....
 
Whirlwind said:
"Germany and especially the Gestapo wrecking crew and the entire crews of the gas shower head pipe fitters & installers union, profoundly regret the loss of life in Austzwich, Treblinka and the Warsaw ghetto."
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Signed: Adolf Eichmann.*

*See how absured your statement sounds and feels? :rolleyes:

Whirlwind....
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Whirlwind,
Since the title of this thread was about killing civilians, keep in mind that all the civilian killings by suicide bombers or by terrorists were intentional while civilians killing by U.S. or by Israel were not. So far, most of your propagandas have "Gone With the Wind" in my book because they sound so pointless to me.

Otheadp,
There is an apparent difference between Whirlwind and John Nash. The real John Nash realizes his condition while Whirlwind appears to have been "Gone With the Wind".
 
hungvu said:
Otheadp,
There is an apparent difference between Whirlwind and John Nash. The real John Nash realizes his condition while Whirlwind appears to have been "Gone With the Wind".
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i don't know
the guy thinks he was a fighter pilot for 18 years
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