Israel, Palestine and the Arab/Israel Conflict

[Whirlwind]

The quotes about un resolusions are used for Israels argument. Isnt it funny that Israel, that even its most hatefull critics say its crimes are marginal compared to most countries during war, is beeing bombarded by so many resolusions? when u got dousans of muslim countries (and until 1990 the soviet block that supported them) it was very easy to sneak in resolusions. Means completley nothing. Write something original pls.

Whirlwind responds (with vigor!) with "very original and true thoughts."

"Marginal cases of Genocide?" (Is this a new word in your Lexicon?)

Let's talk about the crimes committed by THE ETERNAL VICTIMS, OK?

Lebanon, summer of 1982, 28,000 civilains massacred and 500,000 left maimed. wounded, and homeless...

Sabra & Shatila, Almost 2,000, mostly old men, women and children massacred - even the dogs and chickens are killed by the SLA murderers as Israeli tanks and APC guard all the exits and entrances to the camps.

Qana, Lebanon, April 18, 1976 201 Palestinian women and children cut-to-ribbons by IDF tank and artillery fire.

Gaza (Jenin, Rafah and Ramallah)

Jenin: IDF thugs on 04-2003, using children as "shields" massacre 56 Palestinians, steal their personal belongings ( 14 IDF cut throats are awarded "heroism" medal's 9 weeks later!). The UN asks to come in and investigate this Jewish pogrom, but the IDF killers refuse them access - later the killers claim that "no crimes were committed! (Vomit).

Rafah: o4-2004, IDF massacres 14 Palestinain's ( 9 of them children under the age of 15) with Merkava tank's heavy .50 Cal. Machine guns against kids throwing "stones" from 100 meters away!

Ramallah: (Day unknown, month of April, 2003) IDF drops JDAM on a Palestinian apartment building while trying to "get" a "suspected" terrorist. ( 22 civilians are killed and 8 of them are adolescent children, 2 are infants and 6 are mothers.

Yassir, the state of Israel is to be protected and admired for being the SOB's that the world loves to HATE!

Nuff said.

Whirlwind....

 

[Whirlwind]

which is why both sides need to step up
what steps has the 'palestinians' leadership made to show good will?

Interesting, let's say you've fallen off your canoe in the amazon river and the piranha's are nipping at your soft parts as you try and paddle towards the nearby bank: What do you do to show "good will?"

Some smelly bastard with a heavy beard, rotten teeth and bad breath, a dusty black hat and an "expired" 1,000 year old "expired" lease in his back pocket knocks on your door at 2:00 AM and gives you 15 minutes to grab your shillelagh and get out before he flattens your home with his Caterpiller bull dozer idling outside: What do you do to show him good will.

Meanwhile, the IDF thugs guarding the Settler trespasser that is about to de-house you after killing your dad and breaking your mothers leg with a hickory trencheon, approach you with Uzi's in hand and you cannot shot him because there are several other IDF soldiers "at the ready" in case you "attack" another "eternal victim." How do you show him "good will?"

See how absured your argument is?

Whirlwind....

 

[otheadp]

look, i've presented many arguments to you to put things in context, to disprove your lies, to show the other side, etc.
but you're not interested in discussing anything, so it seems... just hearing yourself talk.. or, in this case, posting things and reading them to yourself without really responding to anything else

appeals to emotion, lies, plagiarism, nastiness, hate

you're just a troll. a very sad troll.
i refuse to give you any more audience. i won't respond to anything you say anymore until you refute my previous posts

adios muchacho

 

[Zarkov]

Many arguments but this stood out, by Spidergoat

>> the emergence of a Jewish state, in their ancestral homeland, contrary to UN partition and international law.

Says it all, who asked the Palestinians ??

 

[spidergoat]

Your revisionist view of history is quite amusing. The Jews became Palestinian by virtue of growing up in Palestine, same as the arabs, who's immigration increased as a result of Jewish development of the area. Please explain the difference between an arab moving to Palestine in 1915 and a Jew moving to the same place. What about the Shoshone Indians in America moving onto the plains after the introduction of the horse? They never lived there before, but do we call them occupiers of the plains? Apparently, the arabs were quite happy with Jewish immigration:

The Arab Congress proved to be surprisingly receptive to Zionist aspirations. Hochberg was encouraged by the Congress’s favorable response to the entente verbale. Abd-ul-Hamid Yahrawi, the President of the Congress, summed up the attitude of the delegates:

All of us, both Muslims and Christians, have the best of feelings toward the Jews. When we spoke in our resolutions about the rights and obligations of the Syrians, this covered the Jews as well. Because they are our brothers in race and we regard them as Syrians who were forced to leave the country at one time but whose hearts always beat together with ours, we are certain that our Jewish brothers the world over will know how to help us so that our common interests may succeed and our common country will develop both materially and morally.

from, www.us-israel.org

 

[Preacher_X]

whirlwind,

nice to see such an open minded person who is aware of the truth. anyway, carry on with your efforts, eventually Israel will be exposed for what it is. the way Israel is going it is bringing its self to oblivion. it will take some time though, Foreign investment/tourism and support has dwarfed in Israel over the past 2 years because of the violence. many large companies are pulling out of Israel and the illegal factories owned by huge US companies in the West Bank are starting to come under critiscim. 43% of AMERICANS now think that Israel is the biggest threat to world peace. after the release of Vahnunu, Israels nuclear weapons have once again come under question. if, or when should i say, the nuclear weapons are found US will be forced to stop Milatry aid and also more anger about the war on Iraq will rise as Israel is a country that is VERY likely to have wmd's but the US turns pull a blind eye while Iraq was a country with almost no chance of possessing such weapons. also, many ISRAELIS are begining to see what is happening and are starting to go against the walls in the west bank.

BIGGEST OF ALL - AMERICA WILL RETIRE from being a auperpower probably in the mid century so Israel will lose its greatest ally and hopefully before that Israel will stop recieving US help becasue of the UN!!

 

[savory]

whirldwind and preacher_x, you guys are awesome and have thorougly dominated those who wish to just support israel for fun.

i love reading your facts.. and i giggle knowing how much the truth must bother people like otheadp and goatmonkey or whatever his name is.

 

[Axes]

whirldwind and preacher_x, you guys are awesome and have thorougly dominated those who wish to just support israel for fun.

i love reading your facts.. and i giggle knowing how much the truth must bother people like otheadp and goatmonkey or whatever his name is.

Seriousely I have no idea if you are sarcastic or not.

 

[Whirlwind]

when a civilian straps a bomb to his chest he is no longer a civilian and he is armed.
he should be shot in the head from far away with a sniper rifle due to being a danger to actual civilians.

You seem to cross up "parasites" with "civilians."

Whirlwind....

My favorite saying:

"It's not the size of the dog in a fight - its the size of the fight in the dog!" (Love it!)

Charlie Reese, Editor (Ret)
Orlando Sentenial, 1998

 

[Whirlwind]

Israel profoundly regrets the loss of human life at Kana and has thoroughly investigated this tragic incident which was caused, first and foremost, by the firing of Katyusha rockets and mortars by Hizbullah from a location in close proximity to the UN position.

Another one of those Israeli "I didn't know the gun was loaded stories, huh?"

The only regrets the Zionist state has is that they cannot do to the Palestinian's what the German's did to the Jews because now they "claim" to be a so-called democracy and the "WORLD IS WATCHING."

Rabbi Meir Kahane, the thug Katch party zealot has one thing I admired.

He was a tug and he acted like a thug - and of course one rainy night in La Bronx (NYC) as he was leaving a local whorehouse all soused up wit his favorite Chivas Regal, an Egyptian felow walked up and gave him a clim from his 9mm automatic and th ebassterd was gone!

 

[Whirlwind]

Israel profoundly regrets the loss of human life at Kana and has thoroughly investigated this tragic incident which was caused, first and foremost, by the firing of Katyusha rockets and mortars by Hizbullah from a location in close proximity to the UN position.

Another one of those Israeli: "I didn't know the gun was loaded stories, huh, Spiderman?"

The only regret the Zionist State has is that they cannot do openly to the Palestinian's what the German's did to the Jews during the Holocaust because now they "claim" to be a so-called democracy and the "WORLD IS WATCHING" the killers quite closely!

Rabbi Meir Kahane, the thug Katch party zealot has one thing I admired.

He was a tug and he acted like a thug - and of course one rainy night in The Bronx (NYC) as he was leaving a local whorehouse all soused up with his favorite Chivas Reagal, an Egyptian fellow with more guts than brains, walked up and gave him a full clip from his 9mm automatic, and the Bass Terd was gone to the giant bagal bakery in the sky in a heartbeat!

As he lie there dying, no one would give him CPR, he stunk so bad!

Whirlwind....

 

[Whirlwind]

Another one of those Israeli: "I didn't know the gun was loaded stories, huh, Spiderman?"

The only regret the Zionist State has is that they cannot do openly to the Palestinian's what the German's did to the Jews during the Holocaust because now they "claim" to be a so-called democracy and the "WORLD IS WATCHING" the killers quite closely!

Rabbi Meir Kahane, the thug Katch party head who was a proponent of a holocaust against the Arab "dogs" (as he called them) had one thing I admired.

He was a tug and he acted like a thug - and of course one rainy night in The Bronx (NYC) as he was leaving a local whorehouse all soused up with his favorite Chivas Reagal, an Egyptian fellow with more guts than brains, walked up and gave him a full clip from his 9mm automatic, and the Bass Terd was gone to the giant bagal bakery in the sky in a heartbeat!

As he lie there dying, no one would give him CPR, he stunk so bad!

Whirlwind....

 

[Morteza Olangui]

Hi;
HE IS A BIG MAN.

 

[oparo]

Terror is the result of dissatisfaction. People usually have a good reason to be dissatisfied. It would be better and cheaper to make inquiries into what makes these peoples so unhappy and address the problems with a bit of sympathy. Threats of lethal punishment and retaliatory measures will only breed more resentment and the outcome is an ever escallating revenge-taking.

 

[Whirlwind]

Almost all the arab countries in the middle east ignored international law when they failed to recognize the right of the Jews to a state. The Palestinians would have gotten a state, too, in 1948, but they were too proud and hateful to accept a Jewish state, they wanted it all, and they still do. Now all they can do is blow up busses. Israel will destroy the leaders of such criminal operations, by whatever means available, whether they are in wheelchairs or not. It's a matter of pragmatism, not bravery. If Hamas was really brave they would organize every Palestinian into a non-violent march on Jerusalem like Dr. King and demand to negotiate a settlement with Israel once and for all.

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Indeed, the life of a Zionist trespassser is not an easy one, is it?

"They wanted it all?" If I came to steal your back 40 with tanks and helicopter gunships and a D-9 Caterpillar bull dozer, would you want to "keep it all?"

"Ignored Int'l law," Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! The people who have a history of giving the UN and the world the "stiff middle finger" have rights as "trespassers" under Int'l law?!

They had only the right to be shot dead!

You don't fight a bunch of Zionist piranha's with "passive resistance," a-la-Mathatma Ghandi, you give 'em hot lead and then you call your friends and tell them you're having a FISH FRY!"

FOOL!

Whirlwind....

Pssst, you don't "settle" with horse rustlers, trespassers, burglers, claims jumpers or Zionists.

 

[mustafhakofi]

You can tell the people who support Israel's killings.. completely insensitive, yet would run if they thought someone was going to hurt them in any way.

It fits the whole philosophy.. not willing to fight a fair fight. They want to use helicopters and rifles to shoot poor people who have been forced from their land.

In 20 years history will have it written.. and Israel will be forced to pay reparations to the Palestinians. I can't wait to watch Israelis scrub the floors for Palestinians.

what a stupid statement
so using suicide bombers is fighting a fair fight
not for islam it's not

 

[Whirlwind]

Re: "Which party is responsible for blowing up buses anyway? I'm sensitive about violence, the whole point of Israel's attack on Hamas' leader is to stop violence. It is a last resort."

Seems, you'd complain if you were hung with a "new" rope, Bubba!

As for "who is responsible" when a desperate Palestinian CRUISE BOMBER that has given up hope of ever having his land, home, water and the family camel's returned to him/her and their family and so decides to "take out" an Israeli bus full of IDF soldiers and civilians.

I say, the Palestinian CRUISE BOMBER is practicing "SELF DEFENSE!"

Like my grandmother once said after she found out that the family dog had bitten me because I had been "pulling his tail."

She said: "It's not that the dog bit you - it's "WHY" he bit you, and in this case you certainly deserved to be bitten.

Oh well,

Whirlwind....

 

[Whirlwind]

what a stupid statement so using suicide bombers is fighting a fair fight not for islam it's not

post of the week......... (2 gold stars)

Hahaha, here we have the murderous IDF using US supplied Apache AH-64D Longbow attack helicopters armed with the horrendous US supplied Hellfire/TOW antitank missiles and 30mm gatling gun cannons that fire 8,000 rounds/per/minute, used to attack a basically unarmed people and this guy is talking about a "FAIR FIGHTS!"

You must be a Zionist....

(Certainly, no Mahatma Ghandi here, that's for sure).

Whirlwind....

 

[spidergoat]

"You don't fight a bunch of Zionist piranha's with "passive resistance," a-la-Mathatma Ghandi, you give 'em hot lead "

Yeah, that's really working out well.

 

[otheadp]

you don't fight a bunch of jihadi "palestinian" piranhas with passive resistance, a-la-Mahatma Ghandi, you give 'em Hellfire sandwiches