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No, we should not be shocked, Israel is well known terrorist state ! May God anger fall over those killers...ameen.
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Israel, Palestine and the Arab/Israel Conflict
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No, we should not be shocked, Israel is well known terrorist state ! May God anger fall over those killers...ameen.
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Pay attention to the history of your own region ? European empires fought over this region in in WWI & WWII , Israel/Palestine conflict , The Iran/Iraq war , Bombing Libya , The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan , Gulf War I and The War On Terror The West has always controlled that region right back to the crusades ! always, ever ! and the West has kept it a region of turmoil to keep it a colony of the West ! Foreign powers interfering in your region , tearing down countries setting up corrupt governments at will so they can control the wealth of that region .All of your expensive weapons in the mideast come from Western arm suppliers , which you pay for , and you kill each other with these weapons . Israel exists because the West deemed it could , simply because there is a affluent influential jewish minority in America , but America is going broke and with it Israel .The West hates Arabs , and they hate Jews ,it was the West who tried to incinerate the Jews and it is the West which is murdering Arabs ! You talk about Israels atomic weapons , Israel will use them on Arab states its neighbours and the Arabs will gladly if given chance do the same , and the west doesnt care ! Know your enemy ! Keep killing each other while we in the West sit back and make a bucket load of cash , laughing at you and hating you at the same time !remember that old maxim divide and conquer , it certainly has worked here --. As always !
Pay attention to the history of your own region ? European empires fought over this region in in WWI & WWII , Israel/Palestine conflict , The Iran/Iraq war , Bombing Libya , The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan , Gulf War I and The War On Terror The West has always controlled that region right back to the crusades ! always, ever ! and the West has kept it a region of turmoil to keep it a colony of the West ! Foreign powers interfering in your region , tearing down countries setting up corrupt governments at will so they can control the wealth of that region .All of your expensive weapons in the mideast come from Western arm suppliers , which you pay for , and you kill each other with these weapons . Israel exists because the West deemed it could , simply because there is a affluent influential jewish minority in America , but America is going broke and with it Israel .The West hates Arabs , and they hate Jews ,it was the West who tried to incinerate the Jews and it is the West which is murdering Arabs ! You talk about Israels atomic weapons , Israel will use them on Arab states its neighbours and the Arabs will gladly if given chance do the same , and the west doesnt care ! Know your enemy ! Keep killing each other while we in the West sit back and make a bucket load of cash , laughing at you and hating you at the same time !remember that old maxim divide and conquer , it certainly has worked here --. As always !
How exactly does the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan have anything to do with making a bucketload of cash?
And if Western domination of the Middle East is to blame for the region's current problems, does that mean the Inquistion should be blamed on the Moorish occupation of Spain?
And if Western domination of the Middle East is to blame for the region's current problems, does that mean the Inquistion should be blamed on the Moorish occupation of Spain?
"remember that old maxim divide and conquer"
Considering that the USA is now more bereft of reliable allies than ever, increasing dependency on foreign resources and labor, expanding division of wealth, going into national debt at unprecedented speed... Considering that unpopular, uncontainable, but elective conflicts are dividing us into oversimplistic camps of "hawks" and "doves", conformers and dissenters, who can hardly communicate through the din of nationalistic hype... Considering that reckless American unilateralism and unquestioning support for Israeli apartheid is uniting Europe, uniting the Arab World, uniting the Moslem World, uniting and recruiting terrorists, and likely uniting other ambitious powers against us, it would be very dangerous to assume that "divide and conquer" applies any less to the USA than it does to the Mideast.
Considering that the USA is now more bereft of reliable allies than ever, increasing dependency on foreign resources and labor, expanding division of wealth, going into national debt at unprecedented speed... Considering that unpopular, uncontainable, but elective conflicts are dividing us into oversimplistic camps of "hawks" and "doves", conformers and dissenters, who can hardly communicate through the din of nationalistic hype... Considering that reckless American unilateralism and unquestioning support for Israeli apartheid is uniting Europe, uniting the Arab World, uniting the Moslem World, uniting and recruiting terrorists, and likely uniting other ambitious powers against us, it would be very dangerous to assume that "divide and conquer" applies any less to the USA than it does to the Mideast.
Preacher_X
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(truth) Why Britain Created Zionist Israel (truth)
Please Go To http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html for an article about the history if palestine.
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An EXACT quote by the British Prime minister (at the time) Sir Campbell Bannerman on why illegally creating a Zionist state is essential.
he is talking about Muslims in the Middle East.
“There are people who control spacious territories teeming with manifest and hidden resources. They dominate the intersections of world routes. Their lands were the cradle of human civilizations and religions.
These people have one faith, one language, one history and the same aspirations.
No natural barriers can isolate these people from one another... if per chance, this nation were to be unified into one state, (as it has been in the past) it would then take the fate of the world into its hands and would separate Europe from the rest of the world.
Taking these considerations seriously, a foreign body should be planted in the heart of this nation to prevent the convergence of its wings in such a way that it could exhaust its powers in never-ending wars. It could also serve as a springboard for the West to gain its coveted objects.”
This resulted in the Balfour Declaration of 1917 in which Britain promised the Zionists a national home in Palestine. We have to realize that at that time, at the end of the first world war there were very few Jews in Palestine - just 56,000 Jews compare to 1 million Palestinians, that's less than 6% of the population in Palestine.
So Lord Balfour in a confidential letter revealed the plot and I quote
"In Palestine we do not propose to even go through the formality of consulting the wishes of the present inhabitants.... The four powers are committed to Zionism."
The 4 powers being America, Britain, France and Russia They all conspired to create Israel.
Now we come to the Second World War. After the Second World War the British Empire was coming to an end. The US, the country least exhausted by the war emerged as a new power in the world, so the Zionists turned to America for patronage, For the Americans this was an attractive proposal. President Truman new that a Zionist state, completely dependent on the US for its daily survival, would be devoted to US interests in the region.
So in 1946 after the Zionists blew up the King David hotel in Jerusalem, slaughtering 91 innocent people, the Palestinian issue was hurriedly passed to the UN. The UN has no legal mandate to partition a country against the wishes of its people and yet with US domination of the UN, it proposed a partition plan for Palestine granting 55% of Palestine to the Jews who in fact owned only 6% of the land.
Even after massive US bullying, all the countries of Asia and Africa opposed the partition plan, except for three, one of which was white dominated South-Africa.
The UN ambassador of Haiti began to cry when he was forced to change his vote, similarly vulnerable Liberia threatened with a rubber embargo had to obey the US. This is the sort of shameful open bullying that went on that day to secure the votes for the partition of Palestine.
The Palestinians obviously rejected the theft of their land and a war broke out as the ruthless Zionist soldiers made a grab for the land slaughtering Palestinians wherever they found them. The Palestinians were left to fight alone; they had no army and few weapons to oppose the Zionist military who had been trained and armed by the Britain army.
On 9th April 1948 soldiers of the Irgun, a particularly fanatic Zionist terrorist group commanded by Menachem Begin who later became the Prime Minister of Israel, entered the Palestinian village of Deir Yassin. And they slaughtered 250-300 men, women, and children in cold blood. Their bodies were purposely mutilated to terrorize the rest of the Palestinians into fleeing their homes from fear of similar massacres, thereby achieving the Zionist aim of ethnic cleansing.
Menachem Begin himself said:
“Deir Yassin massacre was not only necessary but without it the State of Israel would not have emerged.”
At Haifa, Jaffa and other cities the Zionists terrorized the population into fleeing by broadcasting horror recordings that filled the air with shrieks and anguish moans of Muslim women and children, interrupted by a sorrowful voice that called out in Arabic“ Flee for your lives, the Jews are using poisonous gas.” As the Palestinians fled Haifa only one phrase trembled on their lips “Deir Yassin, Deir Yassin.”
Those that didn't flee were slaughtered or forcefully removed - over 400 Palestinian cities and villages were depopulated like this. Over 800,000 Palestinians were expelled from their homes.
This is how the "foreign body" - the cancer called Israel was "planted in the heart of our Islamic nation".
Please Go To http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html for an article about the history if palestine.
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An EXACT quote by the British Prime minister (at the time) Sir Campbell Bannerman on why illegally creating a Zionist state is essential.
he is talking about Muslims in the Middle East.
“There are people who control spacious territories teeming with manifest and hidden resources. They dominate the intersections of world routes. Their lands were the cradle of human civilizations and religions.
These people have one faith, one language, one history and the same aspirations.
No natural barriers can isolate these people from one another... if per chance, this nation were to be unified into one state, (as it has been in the past) it would then take the fate of the world into its hands and would separate Europe from the rest of the world.
Taking these considerations seriously, a foreign body should be planted in the heart of this nation to prevent the convergence of its wings in such a way that it could exhaust its powers in never-ending wars. It could also serve as a springboard for the West to gain its coveted objects.”
This resulted in the Balfour Declaration of 1917 in which Britain promised the Zionists a national home in Palestine. We have to realize that at that time, at the end of the first world war there were very few Jews in Palestine - just 56,000 Jews compare to 1 million Palestinians, that's less than 6% of the population in Palestine.
So Lord Balfour in a confidential letter revealed the plot and I quote
"In Palestine we do not propose to even go through the formality of consulting the wishes of the present inhabitants.... The four powers are committed to Zionism."
The 4 powers being America, Britain, France and Russia They all conspired to create Israel.
Now we come to the Second World War. After the Second World War the British Empire was coming to an end. The US, the country least exhausted by the war emerged as a new power in the world, so the Zionists turned to America for patronage, For the Americans this was an attractive proposal. President Truman new that a Zionist state, completely dependent on the US for its daily survival, would be devoted to US interests in the region.
So in 1946 after the Zionists blew up the King David hotel in Jerusalem, slaughtering 91 innocent people, the Palestinian issue was hurriedly passed to the UN. The UN has no legal mandate to partition a country against the wishes of its people and yet with US domination of the UN, it proposed a partition plan for Palestine granting 55% of Palestine to the Jews who in fact owned only 6% of the land.
Even after massive US bullying, all the countries of Asia and Africa opposed the partition plan, except for three, one of which was white dominated South-Africa.
The UN ambassador of Haiti began to cry when he was forced to change his vote, similarly vulnerable Liberia threatened with a rubber embargo had to obey the US. This is the sort of shameful open bullying that went on that day to secure the votes for the partition of Palestine.
The Palestinians obviously rejected the theft of their land and a war broke out as the ruthless Zionist soldiers made a grab for the land slaughtering Palestinians wherever they found them. The Palestinians were left to fight alone; they had no army and few weapons to oppose the Zionist military who had been trained and armed by the Britain army.
On 9th April 1948 soldiers of the Irgun, a particularly fanatic Zionist terrorist group commanded by Menachem Begin who later became the Prime Minister of Israel, entered the Palestinian village of Deir Yassin. And they slaughtered 250-300 men, women, and children in cold blood. Their bodies were purposely mutilated to terrorize the rest of the Palestinians into fleeing their homes from fear of similar massacres, thereby achieving the Zionist aim of ethnic cleansing.
Menachem Begin himself said:
“Deir Yassin massacre was not only necessary but without it the State of Israel would not have emerged.”
At Haifa, Jaffa and other cities the Zionists terrorized the population into fleeing by broadcasting horror recordings that filled the air with shrieks and anguish moans of Muslim women and children, interrupted by a sorrowful voice that called out in Arabic“ Flee for your lives, the Jews are using poisonous gas.” As the Palestinians fled Haifa only one phrase trembled on their lips “Deir Yassin, Deir Yassin.”
Those that didn't flee were slaughtered or forcefully removed - over 400 Palestinian cities and villages were depopulated like this. Over 800,000 Palestinians were expelled from their homes.
This is how the "foreign body" - the cancer called Israel was "planted in the heart of our Islamic nation".
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Preacher_X
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and remember the creation if israel was very bloody, over 500 Villages (50%) were burnt, many with people still inside.
as millions of refugess fled away, Israel stopped them from returning (illegally)
Isreal still holds on to captured land (Against UN and INternation Law)
Israel have killed 100,000 Palastinians
Israel have maimed 500,000 Palastinians
Israel Have Broken Over 100 UN resolutions while Iraq has broke only 17
Israel have created the worlds largets refugee population and this has resulted in over 5,000,000 refugess.
as millions of refugess fled away, Israel stopped them from returning (illegally)
Isreal still holds on to captured land (Against UN and INternation Law)
Israel have killed 100,000 Palastinians
Israel have maimed 500,000 Palastinians
Israel Have Broken Over 100 UN resolutions while Iraq has broke only 17
Israel have created the worlds largets refugee population and this has resulted in over 5,000,000 refugess.
Preacher_X
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Please also read on the website about the death Rachel Corrie, a non muslim who stood to defend an Palastinian home but was crushed TWICE purposely by an Israeli bulldozer. the bulldozer was by international lqaw ILLEGALLY bulldozing a Palistinian house.
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
http://www.inminds.co.uk/palestine-history-and-responsibility.html
Preacher_X said:Please also read on the website about the death Rachel Corrie, a non muslim who stood to defend an Palastinian home but was crushed TWICE purposely by an Israeli bulldozer. the bulldozer was by international lqaw ILLEGALLY bulldozing a Palistinian house.
Uh...what has this got to do with 'why Britain created zionist israel'?
You can't even keep on topic in your own thread?
Preacher_X
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spuriousmonkey said:Uh...what has this got to do with 'why Britain created zionist israel'?
You can't even keep on topic in your own thread?
it is part if the Palastinian problem and notice the world "also" you silly monkey. it is further demonstraion of how Britains does nothing to stop the problem it help create and didnt do anything about this murder of the peaceful suvillian woman
A guy crushed recently by an israelu bulldozer has something to do with why britain created a zionist israel?
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Preacher_X
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rachel was an American but many BRITISH people such as James Miller are shot and killed by Israel. and Britain does nothing!!
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and why should Britain interfer with another state?
Does israel tell Britain what to do?
Does israel tell Britain what to do?
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Lies about crimes
Lies about crimes
Leader
Friday May 21, 2004
The Guardian
Two acts of carnage, one in Iraq and one in Gaza, competed for the world's horrified attention yesterday: more than 40 people were killed by American fire in a village close to the Syrian border in western Iraq, and at least eight Palestinians had died as a result of Israeli gunfire during a peaceful demonstration at Rafah. There is no need here to be reminded that violent and indiscriminate death is not confined to one side.
When Iraqis are blown apart in Baghdad by a car bomb, or Israelis in Haifa by a suicide bomber, these are instantly and correctly labelled as terrorist attacks. However when American helicopters or Israeli tanks cause death to innocent civilians on a similar scale, there is always an alternative version on offer.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1221511,00.html
Lies about crimes
Leader
Friday May 21, 2004
The Guardian
Two acts of carnage, one in Iraq and one in Gaza, competed for the world's horrified attention yesterday: more than 40 people were killed by American fire in a village close to the Syrian border in western Iraq, and at least eight Palestinians had died as a result of Israeli gunfire during a peaceful demonstration at Rafah. There is no need here to be reminded that violent and indiscriminate death is not confined to one side.
When Iraqis are blown apart in Baghdad by a car bomb, or Israelis in Haifa by a suicide bomber, these are instantly and correctly labelled as terrorist attacks. However when American helicopters or Israeli tanks cause death to innocent civilians on a similar scale, there is always an alternative version on offer.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1221511,00.html
Proud_Muslim said:When Iraqis are blown apart in Baghdad by a car bomb, or Israelis in Haifa by a suicide bomber, these are instantly and correctly labelled as terrorist attacks. However when American helicopters or Israeli tanks cause death to innocent civilians on a similar scale, there is always an alternative version on offer.
I call that "bad karma".
crazy151drinker
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Maybe she shouldnt have been standing in front of it.
Come on PM how many times do we have to explian the concepts of Terrorism?
You know damn well your 'freedom fighters' do nothing but attack unarmed civilians. Bunch of cowards.
If you wanted some international respect you would attack the military (but you are to cowardly for that).
When we had our grand revolution we attacked and battled the British ARMY.
Come on PM how many times do we have to explian the concepts of Terrorism?
You know damn well your 'freedom fighters' do nothing but attack unarmed civilians. Bunch of cowards.
If you wanted some international respect you would attack the military (but you are to cowardly for that).
When we had our grand revolution we attacked and battled the British ARMY.
Preacher_X
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Israel is the only country in the world with legalized toture and has more UN resolutions against it then any other country in the ENTIRE world including the "war on terrorism" countries that Bush attacked.
Israel does not care about any form internation law
for fucks sake even the israeli capital is illegal!!!!-
(illegal because international law clearly states that captured territory must be returned and can not be turned to cities of occupiers let alone the capital! also the mjoarity of the world is against the idea of Jerruselum as the capitaol of Israel, countires such as Britain and Russia are alla against this and have demaned Israel to reject the claim of Jeruselum as the capital.
Israel does not care about any form internation law
for fucks sake even the israeli capital is illegal!!!!-
(illegal because international law clearly states that captured territory must be returned and can not be turned to cities of occupiers let alone the capital! also the mjoarity of the world is against the idea of Jerruselum as the capitaol of Israel, countires such as Britain and Russia are alla against this and have demaned Israel to reject the claim of Jeruselum as the capital.
Preacher_X
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if it is wasnt for American support and its vettos against the international condemnation, then Israel would not exsist!
hopefully, as America falls from its super power status, Israel will lose its only true ally and fall with it.
hopefully, as America falls from its super power status, Israel will lose its only true ally and fall with it.
crazy151drinker
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"(illegal because international law clearly states that captured territory must be returned and can not be turned to cities of occupiers let alone the capital!"
So then I guess the turks (ie ottoman empire) should be given back their palastinian lands. Hmmmm well the Romans had it before that so I guess the Italians now own all the palastinian lands.
I guess war is now illegal.....
So then I guess the turks (ie ottoman empire) should be given back their palastinian lands. Hmmmm well the Romans had it before that so I guess the Italians now own all the palastinian lands.
I guess war is now illegal.....
So then I guess the turks (ie ottoman empire) should be given back their palastinian lands. Hmmmm well the Romans had it before that so I guess the Italians now own all the palastinian lands.
Hmmm... interesting this is the logic that Zionists use to claim that parcel of land. So why dig the grave?
Hmmm... interesting this is the logic that Zionists use to claim that parcel of land. So why dig the grave?
crazy151drinker
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Unde,
Territories have been taken and retaken for thousands of years. To say that it is now illegal is horseshit.
Since when did the Palastinians actually rule it? Yeah they live there but so what. According to that logic California belongs to Mexico.
Territories have been taken and retaken for thousands of years. To say that it is now illegal is horseshit.
Since when did the Palastinians actually rule it? Yeah they live there but so what. According to that logic California belongs to Mexico.
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