otheadp said:
outlandish,
let's asume that all the theories and analyses you've presented are in fact true.
even in that case, the Israeli gov't has the right to reject the "ROR" (by the way, it's not the right of return, it's the request of return. and it's not return but citizenship)
you know why?
because of international law, if you want to appeal to its authority, created Israel in the first place. and sovereign nations can set their own immigration and naturalization policy. capish?
then there's the issue of who is a 'palestinian', who was there in the last 150 years, who created the refugee problem(s), etc.
so no. the Request Of Citizenship is an arrogant unrealistic demand
the sooner Arafuck stops drilling "ROR" into the brains of the people he is responsible for and is supposedly representing, the sooner their lives will improve and the conflict will be over.
"right of return" my hairy ass :m:
let's asume that all the theories and analyses you've presented are in fact true.
They are. Furthermore I will take your failure to answer my previous hypothetical question as indication of your slow realisation of the fact, whether you wish to accept it is another matter entirely.
(by the way, it's not the right of return, it's the request of return. and it's not return but citizenship)
OMG! now your giving me half assed refutations of fact with bullshit semantics and half baked re-phrasing of terminology!!!
The present govt of israel can "re define" anything it wishes to. Thyeve got their foot in the door. The
entire state was founded, conceived and set up on the basis of flawed intepretation of some vague biblical doctrine
Furthermore [/B]my previous post clearly and concisley showed how the doctrine of RIGHT of RETURN has been mis intepreted and deliberatley mis used by the zionists. I showed this in terms of:
i)flawed historical intepretations
ii) completely flawed and false antropological ideology
iii) complete denial of an entire peoples geneology and ancestry
iv) the deliberate ADOPTION of some false connection to a completely different peoples along the basis of false ideology
v) the brutalisation and oppression of a complete group of peoples who actiually poses the natural rights which now have been stolen and adopted as a direct result of i) to iv)
I was clear and concise then, and I will be now too.
Any subsequent "govt" of israel can define, re define any term it now wishes to. Who the hell cares now? The damage has been done, you've set up your base.
Don't take meaningless re-definitions of a fundamental doctrine by a govt of a state formed on completely false baseless principles as refutaions to those false principles.
right of return, request of return it doesn't matter now. The isr govt can call it what it wants,
the original doctrine still stands as relevant, and the consequent false use by the zionists of said doctrine still stands as a relevant refutation to the formation of the zionist state
because of international law
international law???? OMG...you really want to talk international law jabotinsky?? OK my russian aetheist friend....bring it on LMAO (int law my ass). don't make a fool out of yourself.
if you want to appeal to its authority
I do, and I have.
and sovereign nations can set their own immigration and naturalization policy. capish?
sovereignty? whose sovereignty? how did israel get this sovereignty jabotisnky?
illeagal and immoral sovereignty attained by deception and completely false ideology and denial of the truth is no sovereignty. capiche?
then there's the issue of who is a 'palestinian', who was there in the last 150 years, who created the refugee problem(s), etc.
OH MY GOD.....your foolishness beggars belief. I'll give you 10/10 for persistance though jabby.
1) there is NO ISSUE of whose palestinian.
2) We all know who was there in the last 150 years
and the last 150,000 years
3) the
real issue is how eastern european and russian jews can claim blood lineage to the hebrew israelites
4) the real
issue is how a faux jewish state can be founded by these said europeans who AREN't even jews, dont follow judaism, reject the TORAH and dont believe in God!!!!
those are the real issues.
ok Jabotinsky you couldn't answer my previous question, here's another one:
hypothetically if the ancient state of israel was in china, and the ancient hebrew isarelites were obviously indiginous to that region ie CHINESE, could it be possible for eastern europeans to claim lineage and blood connection to those ancient chinese peoples?
could it be possible for easten europeans to lay any legitimate claims to that land in china????????????????????????