mountainhare said:
I know that you were addressing Hapsburg, but I'm just going to say 'So fucking what?!'
You have GOT to be kidding me! How about his own child and mother.. Hell, he could start his own inbred tribe... but they'd be the ones to ride on the 'special' bus..
You've failed to provide ANY supporting argument to explain why incest = bad. You're just saying "Oh, it's WRONG WRONG WRONG because I say so!".
You can't think of why it is wrong? Are you frigging kidding me? Where in the hell are you people from?
It is not only bad on a genetic standpoint, it is also bad because they are related.. and their relationship could result in lasting damage to the family to whom they belong to. How do you think the rest of this family are going to cope knowing that the two little ingrates are doing? He's already said that he is scared that her parents will find out as they will kill him and her as well... both will probably be disowned and shunned by the community and probably by everyone sane who happens to know them. And while he may only be 33 while she 24, but he is still the older of the two.. probably someone who may have been an authority figure in her childhood and teenage years. I mean you'd have to ask yourself when this relationship started and when in particular the little pervert started to have feelings for this girl. What if the relationship started when she was much younger say 12 or 13 or so? But who am I asking.. you'd probably find no fault in that either..
Now I still cannot believe that the little deviant can be so naive as to think that they will not only be able to get away with this relationship, but that the courts will also reward them by granting them the right to adopt a child... if all this and most of you people weren't so sad.. his stupidity would be highly amusing..
What's so 'wrong' about having a sexual relationship with a sister? Oh wait, I forgot. It's far more sensible to have a relationship with some whore you meet in a bar, than with someone you've known your entire life, and have a strong friendship with.
You actually asked what's so wrong about having a sexual relationship with a sister? The mind boggles. What's so wrong? She's a fucking sister.. that's what's wrong. If any children come out as a result of the sexual relationship, you have an enormously high chance that the child will come out with some severe genetic malfunctions (for lack of a better term). You'd be putting your future offspring a better chance if you pick up some 'whore' in a bar rather than someone who is your sister.
Hell yeah! Every sane person would rather be fucked by an uncaring stranger who probably has AIDS and Hep. B, than their sister.
Yes.. I really think that most sane people would rather have sex with an uncaring stranger than with their own sibling.. do you know why? Because for most sane people, the thought of sex with their sibling disgusts them. And what's to say that if a sister is willing to sleep with her own brother, that she was not a whore in a bar and has AIDS and Hep. B? And what are you saying? That only a sibling or close relative can truly love someone in that 'spesh' way?
But hey.. if you want to start bonking your sister.. go right ahead.. But just keep in mind that for the rest of your lives you'll have to hide what you do when mom and dad aren't home..
Yes. Since when do you moralists have the right to determine what two adults do in the privacy of their own bedroom? I must say, I'm rather disappointed in you, Bells. You're such a strong advocate for homosexuality, but then you turn around and slam another group who are engaging activities that are essentially similar to homosexuals.
The fact that a person like saint is having sex with his niece, cousin or whatever the hell relation she may be scares me half to death. Not only do I find that to be 'kinda' sick.. but the thought that they may have a child who will not only share his genes but the very similar genes of the mother who was stupid enough to get involved with him in the first place.. well scary thought..
How you can even view homosexuality in the same line as incest or even compare them and then say that you think homosexuality is worse than incest kind of says a lot about you. But hey.. to each their own.. If saint wants to have sex with his niece, then he will do so.. but it is not only to her detriment and to the extreme detriment of any children that might result.. it is also detrimental to himself.
1. No one is hurt.
2. It's consensual.
3. There is no power imbalance. Both are mature adults, who know exactly what they want, and the consequences of their actions.
Have you read through this thread? Saint boasts of his conquest... And then boasts even more that he's doing it without her parents finding out because they would kill him if they did. Now, she may have been pulled in by someone who is in effect older than herself and she may have been in a weaker position when this relationship started because of the age gap and the role he may have played in her childhood years and her upbringing.. and that to me does not equal a balanced relationship.
The little deviant may be aware of the fact that their children could be severely retarded (and that's if their lucky) as birth defects could also play a part... but he is stupid enough to believe that the courts would grant them custody of children they wish to adopt. Do you actually think that sounds like they are aware of the consequences of their actions. He knows that one consequence will be that the girl's family will kill him but he's blind and foolish enough to think that a court will allow a couple involved in an incestious relationship to adopt.
You might not agree with what they do. You might not never ever want to engage in sexual relations with your siblings. But that still isn't an argument for you to brand the act of incest 'morally wrong'.
So if a father starts having sex with his daughter or mother with her son or father with son and mother with daughter.. you wouldn't view that as wrong? I mean hey.. if a brother and sister should start having sex as you've pointed out that you think it is better than to have sex with an 'uncaring stranger'.. why not the parents and even grandparents as well? Now most normal and sane people would view that as being perverted.. but not you and friends.
Not only can the result of incest be birth defects and mental retardation, but it will also adversely affect the parties involved both emotionally and psychologically.
