No you don't, as I agree with you that just because it is written does not make it true...that is my whole point. But that does not mean that it is untrue or worthless either.
So I guess we have little choice but to work on the evidence that is present. Oops, there is none. While some wont care for the evidence, some of us find it important. As a result, anything anyone says regarding the book cannot be taken as 'truth'. The same would be true if you tried to express to me that Sauron is taking over middle-earth, or that vampires are in Brooklyn.
Knowledge of the truth about God comes from a personal relationship with Him through Christ via the Holy Spirit.
Blimey, even the NTL helpline don't pass you around this many employees.
but because I hear His voice and He does not lie to me.
Here's the thing though Lori.. Maybe
you lie to you. While you might not know the reasons for your brain doing what it is, there's no valid reason to accept voices as true, without again having evidence to support it. There are many people who hear voices - from gods to dead famous people to aliens. In general, these people are simply 'not well'. They would be as adamant as you are, that what they hear is true and real, but it doesn't make it so.
it was not written by men, but through men, and by God. He allowed me to understand even this process, as He has written things through me.
The problem that remains constant throughout all of this, is the ease with which it can be debated. As humans, we rely on a bit more than say so, and a bit more than what someone heard in their head, dreamt or envisioned. While undoubtedly you wont understand this notion, it is paramount to humanity.
Because in the scriptures Jesus says that the only way to enter the Kingdom of Heaven is to be born again of the spirit.
So jesus didn't tell you this himself?
No, I would not consider it your right
Luckily, what you consider is irrelevant really.
and I would not consider it courteous of you.
Why would I need to be corteous?
You may do what you want...God gave you free will.
Very nice of him..
But considering the fact that you don't even believe in His existence, muchless that the law you are referring to exists, muchless that the scripture that describes the law is true, muchless have the counsel of the Holy Spirit to guide you in understanding and knowledge...I would have to say that you throwing it around is a bad idea.
Why? Since when did god have copyright to freedom of speech, free will, and whether one be corteous or not?
If you don't even believe in what you are basing your point on, then how do you expect others to take you seriously?
So.. If I don't believe in god I don't have free will, freedom of speech or the ability to be corteous or not?
Nonsense my butt.
To create or not to create? For there to be a creation, there must exist a possibility of no creation. For light to exist, there must also be the possibility of darkness. For truth to exist, there must also exist the possibility to lie. Thou shalt not steal...the possibility of stealing. For good to exist, there must be evil. For right to exist, there must be a wrong. This is science...this is math. Do you not see this to be true?
No, I don't. It's like saying "There has to be blind people in order for people to be able to see". Sight is there, and while some people will be blind, it doesn't change that fact that sight exists regardless.
Again with your astute knowledge of the scriptures. They were in fact NOT the only two people alive. Who lived in the land of Nod? You know...where their sons went to get their wives?
Well, in general, all religious people "live in the land of nod".
But ok, let's pretend the G of E was swarming with humans.. can you still answer the question? Here it is again: "There was no death before the fall? Does this include animals aswell or only the humungous bunch of Nodian's that were alive?"
God knows the future until the end of time...forever that is. God is omnipotent. He's done the math...it works.
What works?
He calls us His children rather. Just as you created your own, He has created His own. He wants to love and to be loved just like you and I.
That's really sweet..
I really do wish that for you one day...to know Him...to know His love.
Your wishes are pointless, unless genie's lamps exist. Ok, I'm sure you take it on faith that they do. Give me a ring when you find one.
To borrow a bit of your own circular rhetoric...you do not believe in the law, so it would be impossible for them to trangress what does not exist...so your point would be?
The point is not that I don't believe it, but that they
do. The reason I know that is because they spend so much time waffling it in my earhole. When they cannot abide by the principles and rules that
they tell me exist, then I can and will point it out to them.
You don't believe in sin..
People do bad things, where have I ever said they don't?
you don't believe in the law.
Sure I do. I even considered going to law school.
One of the "rules" of the law, of which you do not even believe in, states that you are not to judge others. So no, according to the law which you are so hypocritically referring to, you do not have that right.
Of course I have that right, because - as you clearly pointed out - I do not believe in the scriptures or your space beings. The point is not my disbelief, but your belief. I have a principle in place that tells me not to fart in public. If I then farted in public, anyone could happily point out my transgression from my own rules. The same applies here. Someone believes in a rule, does the opposite and then whinges like a baby girl the minute I point it out to them.
Pick a side Snake, either the law exists and is true, or it does not and it is false...you can't have it both ways.
Sure I can. The law exists, (human law). The law does not exist, (cloud law).
For in doing this, you are doing the very thing that you are accusing the hypocrits of doing in the first place, making yourself no better than they.
Like I said, I do not fart in public. If I did, it would then be your right to point out my transgression.
No, but you would have me to prove to you God's existence if it were possible huh? You must trust me somewhat. lol.
As I keep saying, (to deaf ears), I never demand proof. Some evidence is a starting point. And no, I have no reason to trust you.
No it is not. This is exactly what I'm talking about...you don't know what you're talking about. You do not learn from others, you learn from God.
Fine, so what does it matter if I point out that they're transgressing god's laws? What are you complaining about?
God may use others as an example for you
So maybe he's using me as an example to christians who break the laws god has set them?
but you are not convicted of sin by a human, but by the Holy Spirit of God Himself.
I didn't convict anyone, I merely pointed out the error of their ways. What they do with it is upto them, as they have free will. god is just using me as an example to show you christians that you're breaking his laws. I can't prove that to you, but you need to trust me, have faith, ad nauseum.
I am in no such position and would never claim to be. You are definitely not listening to me, nor have I suggested that you take my word for anything regarding the truth about God and the Bible and the Law and His Son. What I have done is to tell you my testimony. I have told you the truth about me personally, and about my relationship with Him. And I have suggested that if you want to know the truth about Him yourself, that you seek a relationship with Him yourself. Not to take my word for it regarding Him, but to know Him yourself...to seek your own knowledge. I would never suggest that you be spoon fed...not even if I were holding the spoon. It's not God's way as He has taught me in person, and it is also not what it says to do in the Bible.
And yet a minute ago you were telling me that I "must trust you". If that is not attempted spoon feeding, I don't know what is.
Just because I don't suggest that you take my word as evidence does not mean that I am calling myself a liar. I speak the truth to you, and in truth, I know that the only way to receive evidence is to seek it from God Himself, not from me.
Ok, but as I have now said a dozen times, I sought that evidence and nobody ever responded.
You point out a pharisee's hypocricy to justify your own beliefs,
It's not about my beliefs, but theirs.. as told to me by them.
Why do you listen to me anyway? lol.
Why don't you answer your own question:
"You are definitely not listening to me".
In love, I truly wish that you knew the love that I know.
I know it better. I don't need to love and worship anything hidden in the delta quadrant. I love and worship my daughter, who is right here. Your god cannot compare.
That is because you seek knowledge of the truth from a human, a book, or a church. You seek the truth from the things of this world, which can be one big lie.
Look.. I sat down, asked for the truth, and low and behold, nothing happened. What more must I do, send an email?
And yet, you continue to pummel me for evidence...why?!? Masicistic?
Only because nothing else responded. You claim to be in direct contact, so I thought you could perhaps manage it.
Which you call me delusional or a liar, depending upon your mood, for testifying to have.
As I have said, I dare you to find more than one time where I have called you a liar, and that time was in respect to you claiming to have had forum discussions with your rock star, and then on another thread saying you've had no earthly contact. That is a contradiction, and can only come across as being fallacious.
As for delusional.. I will admit I don't think you're altogether sane, and there are very pertinent issues that need to be addressed - but as I said to you somewhere around here: "I don't think it's time for the straight jacket yet".
A while back you were so adamant, (as much as you are here), that a rock star would be yours on halloween, without fail, as ordained by god. The world would then see this miracle, shout 'hallelujah' and praise this wonderful miracle. Bugger all happened, but instead of sitting down and thinking about it, and considering the possibility that you're mistaken, you just made up excuses - and this continues to happen.
I don't know who Odin is.
He's the real god. I have a personal relationship with him. You need to have faith and trust me, and then you shall feel the love. There is no saving that needs to be done, because whether you're a scumbag or not, he loves you - and all will be peaceful in Valhalla. I sincerely pray and wish in my heart that you too would see the truth and turn to your father, Odin.
But how can you be so sure you're not lying to you?
Then you don't receive it. God does not impose upon you what you do not want. It's the "other" side that does that.
The Bogeyman?
Save it for someone who wants it.
It is!