Well apparently to you the fact that we are here is evidence. It's not. And you keep asking me to provide the evidence of your claim. I can't, I don't have any.
imagination, do you lack it? that's all what i'm asking.
if tooth fairies existed, proof would be that poor children will get money for their teeth like rich ones, a simple process of imagining an action and suggesting a reaction.
in a world where pink flying elephants exist, human transportation would be greatly different than how it is today, also, assuming they were the only flying creatures of such size, they would be extremly expensive and valuble.
do any of these exist?
“ because they know they always have a way out of the corner. The escape clause. WE CAN'T PROVE GOD DOESN'T EXIST. ”
i only came across this escape rout day before yesterday..
And I am sure you will use it often.
yes i might, it makes perfect sense.
although i managed without it.
and no need to hang to it preciously, i'm sure many others will come along..
Written in books by people who were even more ignorant than we are today.
again??!
what do you know of those people?
You want to accept the ideas of people who were completely in the dark, where death was common at much earlier ages and who were trying to make sense of these deaths and to find purpose for their lives.
death then made more sense than now, it was more accepted too.
They are wrong because if they were the words of god(s) they would not be filled with so much nonsense, and everything we have found since would have corresponded to their words EXACTLY. They haven't and they are full of a bunch of crap written by people who didn't know how anything in nature worked. They made their best guesses for their time and they were wrong, of course.
this is a very good argument, but i think you're talking about the bible.
This is also a comment on all religions and not the idea of a god.
we go back..
what do you know of these "all religions"?
you should've stuck to "the idea of god" which you base on a false understanding of a religion, either you religion or understanding is false.
I am content with the lack of my existence, I don't have to like it and I choose not to be delusional about it.
It does make it better because I know I am not lying to myself.
stop fooling yourself
No, it's created a lot of weak minded individuals so afraid of they lack of existence they delude themselves. I don't blame people thousands of years ago when the lack of knowledge left them with little else and it made sense, but I do blame people today.
he he he.
how are people before not blamed for fearing death and inventing religion, but people of today are not excused? are you saying that gained knowledge and science solves the problem of death?
sigh
apparently we're different than stone age men because we have more science, we shouldn't give in to what they gave in to, we're evolved and more intelligent, and it's about time we started acting like such, and so, we accept our mortality, because we are able to.
well, no, we never will be able to.
never.
it's like a kid who's mother died when he became 18 and he doesn't want to cry because he wants to be a "man"..
a man is never too old to cry, and humans are never too knowledgeable to accept death.
they can know all they want about it, it's causes, how it works, reasons and causes.
but it'll never change the realization, that people die.
if religion is as you claim a cure for that, then it's good for this time as it ever was.
No I expect us when we grow up to become adults and not revert back to being children because we can't envision our own lack of existence.
There is a time to stop believing in fairy tales and santa clause.
ignorance is a bliss, don't you agree?
Like I said before, and I agree, the burden is yours for you. But claim to know and present it here then it is acceptable for me to ask for the evidence. Is it not ?
yes you can ask.
but no if you want it to refute it, not examine it.
Remember I said that you would tell me that I am not trying hard enough or that I just need to open my eyes.
Well. There it is.
yup, i heard pigeons sometime close their eyes when they see a cat nearby, because it makes the cat disappear.
i laughed a lot that day. because i don't care for the pigeon.
“ In fact I have come to my conclusion from weighing the possibilities and probabilities, ”
pondering what's written in a book and wighting the possibilities isn't like opening it and reading..
the more knowledge you have, the least pondering you need.
knowledge for both sides.
for and against.
For or against, against or for. How do you know which I have been overfed, or if I have been overfed. Your making a big assumption just because of my position. In fact your making the assumption solely on my position.
well yes.
it contradicts my position.
so there is a difference in knowledge, if you're not missing it, then teach it to me.
atheists are philosophers who did their best with very little. they ponder little knowledge too much.
do they have little? no, they have much, books and theories, but that much is derived from very little.
I have accepted it. The question I have for you is have you accepted the possibility that there is no god. Hmm ?
in religions yo aare not allowed to admit the possibility, it is against faith.
however, i've, well, made my self accept that possibility for some time, so i put myself in the attacking and defending position of both possibilities, religion wins hands down, but still, i wanted to have a clearer image of the ratio of the possibility to the probability, so i examined evidence, and regained my faith. there's no way* it's wrong.
*by any standards you choose, even total chaos.
Again, there is probability and possibility and accepting the possibility doesn't require me to assume that it is a probabilty. If the possibility is 1 in a trillion. Those are very good odds are they.
when the majority of humans believe it, you being right is what might be 1 in a trillion.
And as I said before, the fact that we are here, alive in this amazing universe is not evidence of a supernatural being as the creator of the universe.
why not?
Do you believe in dinosaurs ?
i told you yes.
So what are you doing with the mountain of information and evidence that contradicts your religion ? How do you justify it, do you not believe or accept the discoveries that contradict the teachings or do you accept both ?
??
they fit perfectly.
Are you, Bishadi & LG in a contest to see who can be most absurd?
yup, we're trying our best to come in second.
That is very honest of you yet it invalidates everything else you say.
i don't mind having many philosophies at my disposal.
i said "if", didn't i?
