God does exist.

And you guys make a claim that i ignored you, when the fact is you guys ignored me first. the whole topic of what i wrote even from the beggining is about "Chance" and "Intelligence", NONE OF YOU EVER MADE A COMMENT CONCERNING THE TOPIC POSTED, insetad u talk about my grammars spelling, talk about purple squid monkey, etc. changing topic and maneuvering FACTS over and over again. and I noticed Adam commented on almost everything I said, but he left this out...

"Furthermore, could the design that obviously now exist in a man & in a human brain come from something with less or no design? Such an explanation violates the principle of causality, which states that u cant get more in the effect than u had in the cause. If there is intelligence in the effect (man), there must b intelligence in the cause. But a universe ruled by blind chance has no intelligence. Therefore there must b a cause for human intelligence that transcends the universe: a mind behind the physical universe. (Most of the great scientists (Albert Einstein, etc.) have believed in such a mind, by the way, even those who did not accept any revealed religion.)

Adam made no comment on that and NONE OF YOU EVER MADE A COMMENT ON CHANCE, BUT AGAIN WILL CALL ME NAMES, WRONG GRAMMARS, PURPLE SQUID MONKEY, IM RAMBLING, BLAH BLAH BLAH, u guys ignored FACTS before I ignored your OPINIONS, if anything U GUYS ARE THE ONES RAMBLING
 
Re: ?? how old are you guys?.

Muscleman is an idiot. [in Muscleman's language, "muscleman is the IDiot,"]

Muscleman, that isn't an argument against God.

It's saying:

Galileo said that then and he was wrong... but everybody believed him!

Later, when more knowledge on the topic was acquired, he was proven wrong.

So what's not to say the same will not happen today?

Actually, it's to debunk your "the fact that you can't disprove something means it must be true" idea.

That's where the purple monkeys come from. Adam was actually being serious there.

You can't disprove that there are invisible goldfish swimming around in your head right now, so they must obviously exist... do you see the fault in that...? :p
 
So.......... I missed the last 9 pages. Did anyone ever find any "evidence" of all the religious malarky?

Personally I think anyone that believes something on complete blind faith is stupid and most likely uneducated. Do you religious people out there believe in god for something other than blind faith?
 
Ya know if I believed in Jesus, or if I was muscleman in this case I would of said something like this:

"I don't care what atheist say. They dont have to prove that God excists, but neither do I. But I believe in him and that is enough for him to excists in my mind."
 
FOR THE THIRD TIME, ATHEIST PEOPLE PLEASE TRY, TRY TO USE YOUR BRAIN.

A CLAIM CAN BE PROVEN FAKE BY LACK OF EVIDENCE.

CAN YOU READ THAT?

LACK OF EVIDENCE...AGAIN...A CLAIM CAN BE PROVEN FAKE BY LACK OF EVIDENCE.
ONE MORE TIME..A CLAIM CAN BE PROVEN FAKE BY LACK OF EVIDENCE? DID YOU GET THAT LITTLE MINDLESS CHILDREN?

A claim can b proven fake by lack of evidence. What evidence do u have of purple monkey or toothfairy? How many eyewitnesses? Millions? If tooth fairies plucked out a teeth, is there any scientific investigation done to it? If so can u show it? How many testified? Show me healing, supernatural/miracles documented in the name of purple monkey . How many died for purple monkey to verify its value? Thousands? Is there a Historical location of it? If so, where? Give up? Well tooth fairy and purple monkey because of its lack of evidence is fake. Period...


I need to recheck purple monkey or toothfairy before considering its existence, besides, TOOTHFAIRY IS ALREADY GENERALLY THOUGHT TO B A MYTH, WHY R U DEALING WITH THAT ANYWAYS?

AND I WAS SAYING MINDLESS CHILDREN, I DONT CARE ABOUT HISTORICAL EVENTS, OR HUMAN ERRORS. LIKE U WERE SAYING GALILEO MADE A PROOFLESS CLAIM, AND HES PROOFLESS CLAIM WAS PROVEN FACT BY SCIENCE....OHH CAN YOU READ THAT? HERE IT GOES, SCIENCE PROVED IT RIGHT...
LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN....SCIENCE PROVED HIM RIGHT...

OH LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN, SCIENCE PROVED HIM RIGHT..

DID U READ THAT MINDLESS CHILDREN? I DONT CARE ABOUT HISTORICAL EVENT BUT ONLY SCIENTIFIC FACTS, I DONT CARE ABOUT PROPHESY OR TESTIMONY OR OPINIONS BUT ONLY SCIENTIFIC FACTS....
YOU READ THAT LITTLE CHILDRENS?
 
AND ONE MORE THING LITTLE CHILDREN, DONT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH AND SAY THAT I ADMIT GOD CANNOT BE PROVEN BECAUSE I NEVER SAID THAT, YOU AND YOUR KIND HOWEVER ALREADY ADMIT TO THE FACT YOU CANNOT DISPROVE GOD AND I APPRECIATE SUCH HONESTY, HOWEVER I NEVER SAID THAT, GOD CAN BE PROVEN AND I HAVE TONS OF EVIDENCE,

HOWEVER THERES A CATCH, YOU NEED BRAIN CELLS TO UNDERSTAND THEM, AND SO FAR YOU HAVENT PROVED IT TO ME YOU HAVE ANY
 
Actually, it cannot. Listen.

Six hundred years ago there was a total lack of evidence that the sun was the centre of our solar system, atoms, other solar systems....

Lack of evidence means there is lack of evidence. That's all it means.

Saying what you are saying is to flaw the most basic components of logic. It's usually taught around the grade 8 level.
 
AND STILL YOU GUYS ARE STILL CHANGING TOPIC, THE FIRST TOPIC I POSTED WAS ABOUT "CHANCE" AND "INTELLIGENCE", THATS THE TOPIC BUT NONE OF YOU GUYS EVER MADE A COMMENT ABOUT IT..

AGAIN THE TOPIC POSTED IS ABOUT "CHANCE" AND "INTELLIGENCE"

CAN YOU READ THAT CHILDREN?

AGAIN, "CHANCE" AND "INTELLIGENCE" THATS THE TOPIC,

CAN YOU READ THAT? OR ARE YOU GONNA GO OFF SUBJECT AND CHANGE TOPIC AGAIN AND AGAIN LIKE ALWAYS...

ONE MORE TIME THE TOPIC IS ABOUT "CHANCE" AND "INTELLIGENCE"

CHILDREN...PLEASE USE YOUR BRAIN CELLS
 
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Actually, it cannot. Listen.

Six hundred years ago there was a total lack of evidence that the sun was the centre of our solar system, atoms, other solar systems....

Lack of evidence means there is lack of evidence. That's all it means.

Saying what you are saying is to flaw the most basic components of logic. It's usually taught around the grade 8 level.
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OK OK, LET ME GO DOWN TO YOUR LEVEL TYLER, LET US JUST US PRETEND THAT YOU ARE SO SMART AND THAT LACK OF EVIDENCE ONLY MEANS LACK OF EVIDENCE....BUT NOT MYTH..THEN WHY ARE YOU ATHEIST TO BEGIN WITH STUPID...HAHAHAHA, YOU ARE CONTRADICTING YOUR OWN WORDS...THERE IS NO GOD TO YOU BECAUSE TO YOU THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF GOD...(AGAIN JUST TO REMIND YOUR BRAIN CELL THAT I NEVER CLAIMED GOD CANNOT BE PROVEN BECAUSE GOD CAN BE PROVEN)

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! YOU CHILDREN NEED SOME KIND OF BRAIN THERAPY!! LOL, YOUR ALL DRIVING ME NUTS

IF BEING LACK OF EVIDENCE DOESNT MEAN FAKE, THEN YOU CAN BELIEVE IN GIANT PURPLE SQUID MONKEY, TOOTHFAIRY, UNICORNS, AND ATHEISM.
AND THAT WILL ALSO OPEN UP FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT I WILL BECOME 10 BILLION MILES TALL AND WEIGH 39 TRILLION TONS IN 40 YEARS FROM NOW.
 
CHILDREN, FOR THE LOVE OF HUMANITY EAT SOME MORE WHEATIES OR SOMETHING, MEN TAKE CARE OF YOUR BRAIN CELLS, MAYBE ITS THE ALCOHOL OR WEED, I DONT KNOW, BUT YOU GUYS HAVE TO DO SOMETHING SOMETHING, THATS SAD AND YOU GUYS CLAIM TO BE SMART? OHH MY GOODNESS, I WONDER WHAT IS DUMB THEN
 
Originally posted by CounslerCoffee
Hey Adam would you go through muclemans post again. I cant understand what hes saying.
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I understand him perfectly. He's saying "Crap crap crap, crap crap crap. You guys aren't reading what I'm saying! Crap crap crap, crap crap crap."
 
Anyways anyone with "brain cells" has something to say about "Chance" and "intelligence"? If not I rest my case, you can call me names and say whatever, losers are entitled to being mad, I dont blaim you, but im still open to discuss about "chance" and "intelligence"

note: dont be a sore loser ok?
 
Muscleman, because you're so very special in all the sad and unfortunate ways, I'll re-post stuff I have already posted in this thread, with the bits concerning "chance".

This has been covered many times on this BBS. The elements required for life are actually very common, as are the conditions in which those elements are stimulated by heat and other factors. I mean they are COMMON.
http://www.chl.chalmers.se/~numa/as...cules/list.html
http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~awootten/allmols.html


http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/gr/public/bb_home.html
http://hepwww.rl.ac.uk/pub/bigbang/part1.html
http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/academ...rse/b_bang.html
http://particleadventure.org/particleadventure/


Slight problem. Well, a big problem really. The Earth's orbit around the Sun varies by around 3%. Add to that changing atmospheric conditions, changing life forms, and so on, and basically your entire argument here is rubbish. The life and conditions in which that life exists change constantly on this planet.


No, you're way off track there. There is no "atheist theory" about life on Earth evolving in such a way. There is a scientific theory of evolution; several in fact. And as I said earlier, the materials required for life are VERY common, as are the conditions in which they are so stimulated. In fact, on any world with any rich chemical soup and some heat, it's almost inevitable that eventually some form of life will develop. It just takes time.


I believe you may be referring to the Drake Equation. The Drake Equation is a set of assumptions multiplied together. That's all it is.


Ah, here we go, I found them:

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/evolution.html
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/fitch/c...tion/index.html
http://www.brembs.net/gould.html
http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~lindsay/creation/eye.html
http://books.nap.edu/html/creationism/
http://www.talkorigins.org/
http://www.theunityofknowledge.org/.../title_page.htm
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/l...1/l_011_01.html
http://www.evolutionhappens.net/
http://www.atheists.org/bone.pit/
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?ar...588EEDF&catID=2

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6054


Think about it. I mean, drop your bible and your cum-stained icon of Jesus, and actually think about it for a minute. Scientists have been learning with cells and dishes for how long? A century or so? ou could probably count up the number of experiments done involving cell manipulation. Now compare that to the number of cellular manipulations done on Earth by nature since the planet's beginning. Think about it.


It is precisely the short lifespan of single cells which promotes evolution from the earliest, simple organisms to more advanced life. A shorter lifespan means greater turn-over and variation.


Want to know a secret? I know that if I drive my car at 200km/h (if my car could ever get that fast, which it can't without going over a high cliff) directly into a big concrete wall, I will most likely die. I've never done it, but I know that is the likely outcome. How do I know? From past experience of driving, from observing other drivers and crashes, and from understanding something about the human body and forces. I've still never done it myself though.
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You can read back through earlier pages if you wish. Enjoy.
 
Wow, is he STILL going on? They should render this guy down to his essential salts and make vibrater batteries out of him, I swear. :p

I cant understand what hes saying.
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Consume 3 tabs of acid, a pint of vodka, and 2 peyote buttons. Then try.
 
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