Bells
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One of my lecturers at university. I found him ugly to be honest, but half the girls thought he was the epitome of male beauty and the others thought he was cute.
I guess I'm just different and outside the norm.
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One of my lecturers at university. I found him ugly to be honest, but half the girls thought he was the epitome of male beauty and the others thought he was cute.
I guess I'm just different and outside the norm.
Mrs.Lucysnow
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I don't know Oli, I have no window into your soul all I know is that when I asked you if you thought they were ugly you said no. All you said is that you prefer something else.
Bells: One of my lecturers at university. I found him ugly to be honest, but half the girls thought he was the epitome of male beauty and the others thought he was cute. I guess I'm just different and outside the norm.
Who? All you are admitting is that 99% of the other students found him attractive. The existence of an exception only serves to uphold generalizations and the norm.
Mrs.Lucysnow
Valued Senior Member
Well Oli as I said, the existence of an exception only serves to uphold generalizations and the norm. This all began because anti-flag decided that those women can be considered ugly which I disagree with. Now you tell me that you find her bland and plain as opposed to the brunette, but so what? It still doesn't make her any less beautiful which is what most have decided that she is. We know this because she has made so much money representing beauty, we know this because people don't give millions of dollars to what is bland and unremarkable, same holds true for Adjani where there is concensus objective of what you think that deems her beautiful which she is. Your preference for her doesn't make Elle any less beautiful! I don't see what you cannot accept about that. There is nothing plain or bland about Elle's body or general features, I don't see dozens of women running around who look like her, and I am sure she would hold anyones attention on any beach anywhere in the world looking like this:
http://connhome.com/88swimnl.JPG
At:
HEIGHT: 6'
MEASUREMENTS: 36-24-35
WEIGHT: 128 lbs (58 kg)
Only great gene pool luck can give you those perfect measurements.
http://connhome.com/88swimnl.JPG
At:
HEIGHT: 6'
MEASUREMENTS: 36-24-35
WEIGHT: 128 lbs (58 kg)
Only great gene pool luck can give you those perfect measurements.
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So I should accept what everyone else says even though I cannot see what they're talking about?
The next time I see what I think is an attractive woman I should get a consensus opinion because my judgement is flawed?
And then refuse her because the general opinion is that she's not attractive enough to others, or conversely go out with a woman I consider unattractive because everyone thinks she's beautiful?
I accept that others may (and do) consider her beautiful - but for the life of me I can't understand why.
Bells
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Oh no. The one's who viewed him as cute thought he looked like roadkill. But they saw him as cute because of his ugliness.. "he's too ugly to not be cute". The one's who thought he was god's gift to women were looking more at something else I suspect.
Mrs.Lucysnow
Valued Senior Member
Oli you are missing my point. BEAUTY ISN'T ABOUT PERSONAL PREFERENCE. You have your preferences, fine. Beauty still has an objective standard that most in the world have no problem agreeing with. I can admit that Johhny Depp is a beautiful man even if I prefer someone else. This post shows you are reacting to something that isn't being said. Its irrelevant to everyone outside of yourself what you think is attractive or not.
Mrs.Lucysnow
Valued Senior Member
Bells: The one's who viewed him as cute thought he looked like roadkill. But they saw him as cute because of his ugliness.. "he's too ugly to not be cute". The one's who thought he was god's gift to women were looking more at something else I suspect.
Bells unless you have a pictue to outline what you are talking about what you posted doesn't make any sense. They viewed him as cute because he looked like roadkill? I am sure you can see why this statement doesn't make sense.
Bells unless you have a pictue to outline what you are talking about what you posted doesn't make any sense. They viewed him as cute because he looked like roadkill? I am sure you can see why this statement doesn't make sense.
Exactly. Opinion does not override that he's a textbook physically ideal human being. Did I get it?!
In which case I truly have no idea what beauty is, so I am reduced to the stage of getting other peoples' opinion on who I should consider beautiful.
Does anyone publish a guide?
Mrs.Lucysnow
Valued Senior Member
Actually you do have an idea of what beauty is. The pictures you posted showed no less beautiful women than what was posted in the links. Clooney is considered gourgeous and its not because he is ugly even if you don't personally find him attractive. what don't you understand about that?
Mrs.Lucysnow
Valued Senior Member
Yeah you got it. Just because I prefer Russel Crowe to Brad Pitt doesn't make Brad Pitt an unattractive man. I don't understand why eveyone is taking it personally
Mrs.Lucysnow
Valued Senior Member
I think you are deliberatly being devils advocate and you know exactly what I mean. If you cannot tell from the post above what I am saying adding another won't change that. Especailly if you want to misconstrue the point
Bells
Staff member
I would if I could. But doing so would reveal too many personal details about me.
Another example is Arafat. I thought he was ugly and unattractive. But to some people, he is beautiful and handsome.
I don't see anyone as taking it personally.:bugeye:
It would depend on which textbook you are looking at.takandjive said:
I'm not playing devil's advocate and I'm not deliberately misconstruing.
Consensus opinion declares Elle McPherson (and those others) to be beautiful.
I simply cannot see it at all.
How about this one:
Nell Mcandrew, supposedly a beauty.
Not [quite] ugly but decidedly unattractive.
Consensus opinion declares Elle McPherson (and those others) to be beautiful.
I simply cannot see it at all.
How about this one:
Nell Mcandrew, supposedly a beauty.
Not [quite] ugly but decidedly unattractive.
Mrs.Lucysnow
Valued Senior Member
Oli is taking it personally because he keeps posting and referring to whom he deems attractive and who isn't when they all are. Arafat has the lure of being a rebel and of having attained a certain degree of power and notoriety but I have yet to hear ANYONE ever refer to him as being beautiful.
No, if Oli actually is taking it personally it's because he's seriously considering obtaining psychiatric help due to his increasingly obvious mental incapacity.