Do you believe god communicates with me?

Do you believe god communicates with me?

  • yes

    Votes: 6 18.8%

  • no

    Votes: 23 71.9%

  • i don't know

    Votes: 3 9.4%

  • i don't care

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    32
EmptyForceOfChi said:
I doubt a search engine can lie, I have not actualy calculated this myself I didn't expect anyone to be stupid enough to lie about calculations becauseit's so easy to just debunk them.

I didn't see the need to question a calculation apparently i should.
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So, since you said you've not actually watched that film before where exactly did you get this nonsense that it's been "proved" that Mecca is the centre?
You must have seen it elsewhere yet you linked to something new to you.
Or was this another of your fantasies?
 
birch said:
this is a better question, if it were proved one day that our universe was one of many inside a living being, would you theists automatically believe that being was god or the creator?

what if that being was a psychopath?
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Im not sure how to answer this directly (point A) I wouldn't assume the universe or "Container" was god I would still believe god is outside of the creation because for him to be a part of his own creation wouldnt make sense to me.

Is god a psychopath? He is a dictator thats for sure but I think he has a sense of justice and signs of justice are everywhere, like our sense of justice and lust for justice to be done.

I wouldn't say he is a psycho but he makes the rules and is a dictator who cannot be policed.


peace.
 
I also think anybody can hear and see but the problem is there ability to listen . It is hard to listen when your own wheels drive you crazy . There is an expression " The King is Dead " if people could understand the meaning of killing the king and do it they to can start to develop an ear to hear. Instead of hearing them selves and listening to there selfish wants ( There own Kingship) Start listen to the screaming by creation it self then they will start to hear what we hear . It really is no big mystery and the sound engulfs everything . So yeah the Creator talks to you . The creator talks to everyone . I know this as a matter of fact , proving it to nonbelievers is a whole other thing , but fear not for we have creation it self as or guiding force and creation will do our bidding .
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this is starting to get annoying. i'm tired of coddling and capitulating to their sophomoric theistic views as if they are the all-knowing and wise. it's like an idiot telling you how you need to learn from them something you don't already know.

if life is the essence and all life is composed of it, then it would stand to reason that god (if it represents the essence of life) would be inherent in some part in every life.

that would mean that wisdom and all forms of understanding are available in it's myriad forms to all life and to all people.

given that premise, of course god would talk to all people (not necessarily voices in the head). it's within the nature of life and within all life to experience it.

in essence, there is god in every person and within nature under this premise.
 
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EmptyForceOfChi said:
Im not sure how to answer this directly (point A) I wouldn't assume the universe or "Container" was god I would still believe god is outside of the creation because for him to be a part of his own creation wouldnt make sense to me.

Is god a psychopath? He is a dictator thats for sure but I think he has a sense of justice and signs of justice are everywhere, like our sense of justice and lust for justice to be done.

I wouldn't say he is a psycho but he makes the rules and is a dictator who cannot be policed.


peace.
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my point was that it would be easy to assume it was but it may not be.

just the thought of a bacterium in the gut of a beer chugging couch potato loser thinking that guy was god is laughable and neither am i the the god of my cells. lol
 
Dywyddyr said:
So, since you said you've not actually watched that film before where exactly did you get this nonsense that it's been "proved" that Mecca is the centre?
You must have seen it elsewhere yet you linked to something new to you.
Or was this another of your fantasies?
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I have watched a few other documentary shows that claim meccais the center and many people have tried to show me how it is the center using google earth. I haven't seen this particular video though.

I give people the benefit of the doubt especially other muslims, as they swore an oath upon saying "As salam alaikum", that testifies they will never lie or misslead people. See when I say this I truly actualy mean I will not lie or misslead I expected everyone else to be totaly honest aswell.

Child like faith in others honesty I guess. But I really am sorry for missleading you I didn't knowlingly do it i swear.


peace.
 
birch said:
this is starting to get annoying. i'm tired of coddling and capitulating to their sophomoric theistic views as if they are the all-knowing and wise. it's like an idiot telling you how you need to learn from them something you don't already know.

if life is the essence and all life is composed of it, then it would stand to reason that god (if it represents the essence of life) would be inherent in some part in every life.

that would mean that wisdom and all forms of understanding are available in it's myriad forms to all life and to all people.

given that premise, of course god would talk to all people. it's within the nature of life and within all life to experience it.

in essence, there is god in every person and within nature under this premise.
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I think he does talk to all people I just think some people don't know when he is guiding them and when it's their own intuition. I wouldn't say he is "inside" everything the same way a computer programmerisnt actualy inside a DOS program although his input and sequencing is.

peace.


peace.
 
EmptyForceOfChi said:
I give people the benefit of the doubt especially other muslims, as they swore an oath upon saying "As salam alaikum", that testifies they will never lie or misslead people. See when I say this I truly actualy mean I will not lie or misslead I expected everyone else to be totaly honest aswell.

Child like faith in others honesty I guess. But I really am sorry for missleading you I didn't knowlingly do it i swear.
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Then the question now is: what other nonsensical rubbish have you been told that you are taking on faith?
If you were truly honest you'd give that considerable thought.
 
birch said:
my point was that it would be easy to assume it was but it may not be.

just the thought of a bacterium in the gut of a beer chugging couch potato loser thinking that guy was god is laughable and neither am i the the god of my cells. lol
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Yeah a few people have used this same argument when talking to me in the past, but they didn't quite use the same props and characters.

Like those little russian dolls where one is inside another inside another. what do you call those dolls i forget?. But the same principle applies. I can't really argue against these things except by adding another doll or container to the picture, but then it would just go around in circles and end up back at square one.

My own logic can't even explain god to me yet i still believe, I Don't actualy have a choice in the matter.I actualy understand this now Faith isnt as simple as people make out. It isn't just faith in the unseen it is something more.

Even if i were to disprove everything in the bible and quran right now i couldn't force myself to become an atheist and i can't explain why. It'slike god forced me to believe in him and i have to deal with it.


peace.
 
Love is kind of a violent consuming thing
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uh, perhaps to you.


I think he does talk to all people I just think some people don't know when he is guiding them and when it's their own intuition. I wouldn't say he is "inside" everything the same way a computer programmerisnt actualy inside a DOS program although his input and sequencing is.
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who knows? also it may not be a 'he' either. maybe it's an 'it'.
 
Dywyddyr said:
Then the question now is: what other nonsensical rubbish have you been told that you are taking on faith?
If you were truly honest you'd give that considerable thought.
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Good Question,

Let me think of a few examples, I have been told there is a certain sea that seperates from Salt water and fresh water, one is good to drinkt he other is bitter (obviously). and this water is seperated by an invisible barrier and it's somewhere in africa and the 2 waters do not mix. I automaticaly believe there is such a place because somebody who said as salam alaikum to be told me so.



I can't really think of another one right now but i will try thinking of some other ones.


Peace.
 
birch said:
my point was that it would be easy to assume it was but it may not be.

just the thought of a bacterium in the gut of a beer chugging couch potato loser thinking that guy was god is laughable and neither am i the the god of my cells. lol
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I don't think the bacterium in my gut even thinks about me... Uh, not that I'm a beer chugging couch potato or anything... :rolleyes:
 
Dywyddyr said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As-Salamu_Alaykum
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That's actualy not an accurate translation and wikipedia authors need to change that. "Salam" means that. but As salam Alaikum is actualy a five fold kind of Oath. it means "i will not lie to you" "I trust you will not lie to me" "peace be unto you" and another couple things.


Who has a decent amount of arabic knowledge on these forums? SAM would know and maybe Fraggle Rocker he is very good with languages.

It isnt just a mere peace blessing thats "Salam" As Salam Alaikum is a very serious greeting and should never be used lightly.


So when somebody says As salam Alaikum to me I have to accept everything they say as truth if i said "wa Alaikum Salam" back tot hem (which i did)


Salam ^^
 
EmptyForceOfChi said:
Let me think of a few examples, I have been told there is a certain sea that seperates from Salt water and fresh water, one is good to drinkt he other is bitter (obviously). and this water is seperated by an invisible barrier and it's somewhere in africa and the 2 waters do not mix. I automaticaly believe there is such a place because somebody who said as salam alaikum to be told me so.
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Trust, but verify.

Sounds like where a major river might meet the ocean. The invisible barrier is simply the pressure of water flow.
 
Rhaedas said:
Trust, but verify.

Sounds like where a major river might meet the ocean. The invisible barrier is simply the pressure of water flow.
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Yeah I should Verify more I have actualy become the most trusting in people I have ever been, ive turned into a little boy again or something >_<.


But when I say As salam Alaikum to people I actualy mean it 100% I also expect them to do the same, I expect every muslim to be 100% honest with me all the time. But I like being like this trusting people it feels very nice but I do admit it leaves me very open to sneaky little decievers who might want to try and take advantage of my "Trust"


Peace.
 
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