Do you believe god communicates with me?

[Dywyddyr]

how did it benefit islam to lie to me?

Because you ended up believing more drivel.

What about a shakey new convert? if they found out all of that was a bunch of lies they might have actualy abandoned their deen and islam all together.

How much of it actually is lies? Or at least untrue but believed by the teller?

 

[EmptyForceOfChi]

I gave an explanation.


Ah right. This is how you "keep your word". By not reading my posts.

So much for your true colours.
And I repeat: you made the claim. Support it.
It shouldn't be conditional on what I think.

I asked you 2 times now to link me to your detailed explanation and im yet to see a link.

I said that if you have posted it im sorry and i appologize and that I havent read it yet, this is why I asked you to link me to it or explain it again.

Im not a liar im an honest person I wouldn't just say i havent read it if I have. I seriously have not read or even seen it. So im asking again Can you please link me to it or explain it again.

 

[Dywyddyr]

I asked you 2 times now to link me to your detailed explanation and im yet to see a link.

No link is required. I gave the answer in the post.

Im not a liar im an honest person I wouldn't just say i havent read it if I have. I seriously have not read or even seen it. So im asking again Can you please link me to it or explain it again.

My philosophy and beliefs are irrelevant.

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2728185&postcount=47
Get it?
What I think doesn't matter to reality.

 

[EmptyForceOfChi]

Because you ended up believing more drivel.


How much of it actually is lies? Or at least untrue but believed by the teller?

Well I obviously don't believe it do I or I wouldnt have said "Your right" I just said the dude spouted some BS and it isnt true.


I have No Idea if these people including the guy on this video i just showed you knew it was BS.

But regardless it caused me problems and ive been made to look foolish because of trusting them havent I.

 

[EmptyForceOfChi]

No link is required. I gave the answer in the post.




http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2728185&postcount=47
Get it?
What I think doesn't matter to reality.

ROFL that is your detailed explanation you saying your beliefs are not relevant?.

Sorry for missing that Huge epic detailed explanation how could I have missed that Huge Tome?


And you expect me to give you some form of explanation are you kiddng me?


Ok then here you go

My personal belief is irrelevant. (hows that?)

 

[birch]

I have No Idea if these people including the guy on this video i just showed you knew it was BS.

But regardless it caused me problems and ive been made to look foolish because of trusting them havent I.

now you know, just go on from here. you've already admitted it, no need to beat yourself up.

 

[EmptyForceOfChi]

now you know, just go on from here. you've already admitted it, no need to beat yourself up.

Im not bothered my belief hasn't even slightly changed "shit happens", Im just answering Questions that seem to gravitate around this from other posters.

My Faith isnt my own choice I actualy tried to become Atheist a few weeks ago and I Couldn't do it, it was a very interesting meditation actualy.

Peace.

 

[SciWriter]

And how many other lies have you been told "in a good cause"?

The real truth and everything bit the truth…

More Tall Tales

So, God, who was much older than dirt, in fact, infinitely old, decided to perform some lab experiments one day around 14 billion years ago, or else it was only 4000-6000 years ago, producing mammal sapiens as his pride and joy; however, he was evidently a poor craftsman, perhaps because He was so old, and so these mammals goofed up left and right, and even up and down and sideways, building and worshiping golden calves and so forth, so He sent Moses, after Moses wiped out many tribes, to bring the Tablets down from the burning bush on the mountain to them, but this didn’t have any real effect, so God killed everyone on Earth but for Noah and his wife, Yesah (she always had to say “yes”, as that’s how it was in those days), and, no, she was not really named “Yesah”, but was Joan of Arc, and then the new mammals’ descendants still screwed up, in and out, and so God sent some prophets, but this still failed, and so God impregnated a virgin in some magic way, Jesus being the result, Jesus then converting from Judaism to Christianity, but the people crucified him and still acted horrible for nearly two millennia, whenuopn He sent Our Lady of Fatima, but still his creatures were full of evil and so now the world will come to an end on May 27, 2012.

 

[EmptyForceOfChi]

Hey I just Thought of a great thread to start it will prove most interesting as an experiment.

Thanks Birch you just sparked my light bulb.


Appreciation

 

[Dywyddyr]

ROFL that is your detailed explanation you saying your beliefs are not relevant?

You didn't ask for "detailed".

And you expect me to give you some form of explanation are you kiddng me?

So you lied?
Okay.

My personal belief is irrelevant. (hows that?)

Doesn't answer the question you were asked:

Please demonstrate to us that this "truth" that you know is the truth.

 

[EmptyForceOfChi]

The real truth and everything bit the truth…

More Tall Tales

So, God, who was much older than dirt, in fact, infinitely old, decided to perform some lab experiments one day around 14 billion years ago, or else it was only 4000-6000 years ago, producing mammal sapiens as his pride and joy; however, he was evidently a poor craftsman, perhaps because He was so old, and so these mammals goofed up left and right, and even up and down and sideways, building and worshiping golden calves and so forth, so He sent Moses, after Moses wiped out many tribes, to bring the Tablets down from the burning bush on the mountain to them, but this didn’t have any real effect, so God killed everyone on Earth but for Noah and his wife, Yesah (she always had to say “yes”, as that’s how it was in those days), and, no, she was not really named “Yesah”, but was Joan of Arc, and then the new mammals’ descendants still screwed up, in and out, and so God sent some prophets, but this still failed, and so God impregnated a virgin in some magic way, Jesus being the result, Jesus then converting from Judaism to Christianity, but the people crucified him and still acted horrible for nearly two millennia, whenuopn He sent Our Lady of Fatima, but still his creatures were full of evil and so now the world will come to an end on May 27, 2012.

I just realized you have a pretty good knowledge of scripture lol,

but for the record Aaron ddin't make them worship the Cow that's a lie ^_^.


Peace

 

[EmptyForceOfChi]

You didn't ask for "detailed".


So you lied?
Okay.


Doesn't answer the question you were asked:

Seriously I intentionaly said "detailed" like 300 times because I assumed you wouldn't give much details because you rarely ever give detailed posts your posts usualy consist of a few words and maybe an insult or 2.

 

[SciWriter]

I just realized you have a pretty good knowledge of scripture lol,

but for the record Aaron ddin't make them worship the Cow that's a lie ^_^.


Peace

So, how's my old buddy, Chi?

Yikes, there was a lie about Hank Aaron?

 

[Dywyddyr]

Seriously I intentionaly said "detailed" like 300 times

Not originally:

Lets hear your philosophy on existence and the universe

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2728176&postcount=46

because I assumed you wouldn't give much details because you rarely ever give detailed posts your posts usualy consist of a few words and maybe an insult or 2.

Yeah right. How much detail is required?
Whatever I think is irrelevant to reality and the universe.

Still dodging...

Oh and by the way:

but for the record Aaron ddin't make them worship the Cow that's a lie

SciWriter didn't say that he made them worship the cow.

2And Aaron said unto them, Break off the golden earrings, which are in the ears of your wives, of your sons, and of your daughters, and bring them unto me.

3And all the people brake off the golden earrings which were in their ears, and brought them unto Aaron.

4And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.

Exodus 32.

 

[EmptyForceOfChi]

So, how's my old buddy, Chi?

Yikes, there was a lie about Hank Aaron?

Yeah The Quran says it was a lie and Aaron never promoted any idol worship of the golden Cow and that he was a strict non idol worshipper like moses.

I have been great ^_^ Havent quite started world war 3 yet but im working on it buddy!

How have you been lol

peace/

 

[EmptyForceOfChi]

Not originally:

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2728176&postcount=46


Yeah right. How much detail is required?
Whatever I think is irrelevant to reality and the universe.

Still dodging...

Oh and by the way:

SciWriter didn't say that he made them worship the cow.

Exodus 32.

He didn't say that but the bible says that which he was refering too.


Im not giving you what you refuse to give me don't give double standard's you want me to give you some Quranic or biblical explanation so you can pick it apart and im not giving you the chance so bugger off.

 

[EmptyForceOfChi]

You know more about the bible than you do science why don't you become a Bible scholar? you would make a great self hating jewish scholar ever thought about a new profession?


jaja

 

[Dywyddyr]

He didn't say that but the bible says that which he was refering too.

And for some reason you seen to think the Quran is more reliable than the Bible.

Im not giving you what you refuse to give me don't give double standard's you want me to give you some Quranic or biblical explanation so you can pick it apart and im not giving you the chance so bugger off.

Projection again.
Please show where I have used a double standard.
You're the one dodging and not living up to your word.
I want you show how you know that what you claim is the truth.
Or are we back to more faith and no actual knowledge?

 

[EmptyForceOfChi]

And for some reason you seen to think the Quran is more reliable than the Bible.


Projection again.
Please show where I have used a double standard.
You're the one dodging and not living up to your word.
I want you show how you know that what you claim is the truth.
Or are we back to more faith and no actual knowledge?

YesI do think the Quran is more reliable than the bible, I know for a fact that the bible is corrupted scripture that has been tampered with many times, I know that the quran has not been tampered with and corrupted since it was first written.


You have told me your not giving me an explanation or your personal beliefs yet you are still asking me for my explanation and beliefs.

Why do you even want my explanation? we both know your just going to say I fail and im stupid or something.

 

[birch]

YesI do think the Quran is more reliable than the bible, I know for a fact that the bible is corrupted scripture that has been tampered with many times, I know that the quran has not been tampered with and corrupted since it was first written.


You have told me your not giving me an explanation or your personal beliefs yet you are still asking me for my explanation and beliefs.

Why do you even want my explanation? we both know your just going to say I fail and im stupid or something.

whether it was tampered with is kind of irevelant. this is because religious texts are there as a source to recruit, not as a text of history or facts. do you agree with everything in the quran?