Do you believe god communicates with me?
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I do believe that was Jesus' point. That, and the only thing we can do is keep trying to do better.
You tell me, I'm not on his speed dial.
Utterly wrong.
I don't need to "look it up".
By definition ANY location on which a map is centred is the centre.
Mecca is NOT the centre.
For one thing the Earth is a sphere. The centre is inside.
Similarly, you think like a crackpot theist so you won't be able to understand an atheist.
I go away for a few hours and come back to an extra 10 pages of this waffling debate. Unbelievable.
And look at a map to see Mecca is the centre? I can see that you are unrivalled in your cartography skills.
and that it matters. it manifests. that's accountability and empowerment.
because i'm sure you even are aware that many theists claim their belief as irrefutable facts.
you don't have to say it's your opinion, just that it's your faith. besides, i wasn't even refuting your belief in god, just adding something to consider. besides what you put out there will be challenged, otherwise don't.
besides there is a lot of things we may personally know that others never will and that goes for everyone. i have had experiences that others cannot know because they are not in my shoes nor do i have proof to present to them.
i've also had experiences of knowing something which turned out to be true but i cannot explain how i knew it as well so i don't insist that others can too. i just keep it as an anecdotal experience that i may share with others at times which some may be able to relate to.
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is it what i would say?
Utterly wrong.
I don't need to "look it up".
By definition ANY location on which a map is centred is the centre.
Mecca is NOT the centre.
For one thing the Earth is a sphere. The centre is inside.
Hey you actualy debated me without being a douchebag! Mashallah!!!!
You are correct with that sphere rebuttle completely, but when you take the earth by its north and south polls and take a look from thet perspective mecca would be the center.
South pole North pole, freeze frame the image then zoom into the center and you have mecca.
Im am shocked though your actualy debating me for once thank you.
peace.
Utterly wrong.
I don't need to "look it up".
By definition ANY location on which a map is centred is the centre.
Mecca is NOT the centre.
For one thing the Earth is a sphere. The centre is inside.
lol we just had a good laugh about this on msn...
The centre of the earth is... well the centre.... i don't think it's on Google Earth.
Try Google Hell perhaps?
I assume you have aligned yourself with the sentiments expressed in the ten commandments. I could be wrong. Is it wrong to think lustful thoughts outside of a sanctioned marriage?
Again: NO.
The "centre" would be any location on the equator. Any single location at all.
Your claim that it has been proven is tripe.
I understand where you are comming from, Alot of theists mainly christians (not being bias) tend to debate with half complete understandings, since the bible is a book mixed with history, dreams, visions, legends, truths and a spinkle of corruption they tend to not be very well grounded even in their own religious understanding.
Running around screaming God is the truth and the bible proves it i cringe when they say this because i know they are going to be eaten alive by the atheists who want to debunk them. But I know the christians are not actualy trying to be stupid they just dont understand how atheists think, maybe because i have been on both sides of the fence i can understand each side a little better, I know what it's like to have no faith and ont he other hand i now understand what it'slike to have faith. So maybe I am a little more suited to debating Vs an atheist than your average christian is.
But if you try having a debate with your average muslim you will be surprised how logical minded most muslims actualy are, this is because Quran actualy commands them to use logic and test things where as the christians basicaly thrive on Faith alone, some of them even think you can be a complete asshole aslong as you have the faith you will be rewarded, where as a muslim is not taught this strange concept, they are all taught that even if you have faith you will still be punished for your bad deeds. christians seem tot hinkt hey are immune to punishment because of their strong faith. but a muslim isnt they know they will still be held accountable for the crap they cause on earth, or what they call the Dunya (Physical realm)
Peace.
do you think it's inappropriate? if you had a choice, would you rather be lusted after or loved?
What's wrong with you?
Mecca is closer to the Line of Cancer than the Equator.
Like the Quran you mean?
The distance between mecca and the south pole is exactly the same as the distance between mecca and the north pole. are we agreed that this is a "center"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slMuHbsuJkM
Peace.
The quran isn't like the bible it's not a cobbling together of 70 different scrolls including dreams and visions like the bible is. the Quran is different.
Justlook at Ezekiel this is a book of dreams and visions, or the revelations the same thing.
The quran can not be compared to the bible they are different kind of books.
Peace.
Line up rome to the north pole and then the south pole and you will find it's way off being a center.
I do admit a sphere has more than one center i wont lie or make ezxuses to facts. But mecca is "A center" or one of it's center points.
Peace.