Do you believe god communicates with me?

Do you believe god communicates with me?

  • yes

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • no

    Votes: 23 71.9%
  • i don't know

    Votes: 3 9.4%
  • i don't care

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    32
Do you know the true story of satan?, His name is actualy Iblis and he is known as Shaytan, He was created before humans so was his race called Jinns. When God created Adaman (adam) Shaytan (Iblis) "said what is this?" and god told him that this is his new creation and it is better than the jinns. Iblis didn'tlike this new creation and he said it isnt better than him. So satan asked god to make a bet with him, He said give me time and i will show you how stupid and evil these humans are (basicaly bit not exact words) So god said ok then i will give you time and you can try to prove this to me. So god let satan test us on earth and god had faith that his new creation would in the end do the right thing. But satan thinks he can corrupt all of us because we have short lives and free will.

I liked the story of Loki better.
 
In this context could i not justify anything I want? without a divine over ruling on what is good and what is evil. If it really is subjective can i not just say "i want to eat another human" and there isnt much you can say to stop me if you really think we are all just evolved atoms who just die and fade into nothingness. how could you enforce justice from an atheistic stance?

Could I not just say well your morals are not my morals so i can dow hat i want?

so you are basically saying that there are no reasons behind the concept of morality to you. then that would mean there are no reasons for your supposed god to teach morality. doesn't make sense, does it?

so with your belief, then if god told you to slaughter people, you would do it just because it told you to.

how reliable is this? lol.
 
So what if my mind evolved a different morality than your mind how can you tell me not to kill somebody else? unless your saying your evolutionary morals are "better" than mine?


Peace.

Your talking about short term individual evolution now whereas in the other example it was long term progressive evolution and based on a collective interpretation of right and wrong which is pretty accurate and took time to develop.
 
In this context could i not justify anything I want? without a divine over ruling on what is good and what is evil. If it really is subjective can i not just say "i want to eat another human" and there isnt much you can say to stop me if you really think we are all just evolved atoms who just die and fade into nothingness. how could you enforce justice from an atheistic stance?

Could I not just say well your morals are not my morals so i can dow hat i want?

And you'll find that morality does vary between different societies. Some, like murder, are more universal, but even then can have differing boundaries.

You could have a lack of morality that lets you kill and do what you want. There are people out there like that, usually with severe brain ailments that give them this lack of empathy to others. But society will step in and deem what the appropriate punishment and treatment should be.

So...if all that's stopping you from doing "bad" things is your belief, then I'm glad you believe.
 
Like if one person decides blue is red. Surely we canot tell this person they are correct simply because they believe blue is red.
 
If you haven't noticed this is the religion forum.

and i have never said that god does not exist. it can't be proven or disproven.

if you are so sure of your beliefs, all you have to do is state it is a faith. how can that be refuted except contradictions?

you have a problem with it?
 
You mean it's rude to show up your ignorance?
My apologies. I'm sorry you're ignorant.
Still waiting for you to substantiate your claim by the way.


Well you have a long wait then don't you sir.


Why are you even asking me these things when you know full well you wont even take what i say seriously for even a second.

You ask things knowing you wont agree witht he answer you so diss-honest it is unreal. You know you wont listen to me so why bother asking, you know your only here int he religion forum to debunk God and look down on his followers.

Your a man of science right? so go talk about science and leave the believers alone, you come here to bully christians or something and take a supirior stance and all you say is how people fail and how they are dumb.

If im so ignorant and dumb why dont you try to educate me instead of being rude?, if you truly thought i was ignorant then why not tell me how the universe really works? your a useless teacher and a joke of a debator. all you ever say is "you fail" "your stupid"


Grow up you tool
 
Well you have a long wait then don't you sir.
So you can't defend your claim?

Why are you even asking me these things when you know full well you wont even take what i say seriously for even a second.
You ask things knowing you wont agree witht he answer you so diss-honest it is unreal. You know you wont listen to me so why bother asking, you know your only here int he religion forum to debunk God and look down on his followers.
That's an assumption on your part. I'll quote you:
Lol projecting issues upon other people hmm i would be more cautious than to assume that about another, the one who assumes is speaking from his mind not the one he is accusing.
http://www.sciforums.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2728225

Grow up you tool
:roflmao:
 
so you are basically saying that there are no reasons behind the concept of morality to you. then that would mean there are no reasons for your supposed god to teach morality. doesn't make sense, does it?

so with your belief, then if god told you to slaughter people, you would do it just because it told you to.

how reliable is this? lol.



You ask a question and then asnwer it yourself this is silly.


Don't become like so many other atheists looking to score kudos against god by debating his so called followers.

What is your agenda here why are you posting in the religion sub forum?


Why is the religion forum full of atheists? whats wrong with you people do you have OCD or autism?


peace.
 
So you can't defend your claim?


That's an assumption on your part. I'll quote you:

http://www.sciforums.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2728225


:roflmao:



I will remind you again this is the religion sub forum i dont have to give you evidence, Leave me alone to be a woo woo with my woo woo believer friends so we can talk about spaghetti monsters and tooth fairy's in peace.


You ask for proof knowing there is no proof do you have a mental illness which stops you understanding simple things?
 
and i have never said that god does not exist. it can't be proven or disproven.

if you are so sure of your beliefs, all you have to do is state it is a faith. how can that be refuted except contradictions?

you have a problem with it?


I have stated like a billion times but you guys still want proof, like look at DW he keeps asking for proof when i tell him i have none. It's like a mental deseise some people have where they stick their fingers in their ears and go LALALALALALALA i cant hear you.


Seriously why are you here in the religion foru,, like you guys can read English right? You clicked on the sub forum titled RELIGION. you understand this right? there are hundreds of science threads but yet you choose to come to the religion forums?. I am a member of physics forums aswell why dont you go there and talk about real science.

This is more like science fictionf orum compared to physicsforums. maybe some of you just cant debate in real science forums so you choose to come in here to feel smart because you get booted from physics forums for being laymen.


peace.
 
Why don't you go jump off a cliff and see if you exist after you die?, that's the only evidence you guys will believe.

I will remind you again this is the religion sub forum i dont have to give you evidence, Leave me alone to be a woo woo with my woo woo believer friends so we can talk about spaghetti monsters and tooth fairy's in peace.
I will remind you this is the religion sub-forum of a science forum.
C. Stating Opinions
If you have an opinion, back it up with evidence, a valid argument and even links and references if possible.

You ask for proof knowing there is no proof do you have a mental illness which stops you understanding simple things?
So you're just making ridiculous claims knowing full well that you can't back them up. Got it.
 
You ask a question and then asnwer it yourself this is silly.


Don't become like so many other atheists looking to score kudos against god by debating his so called followers.

What is your agenda here why are you posting in the religion sub forum?


Why is the religion forum full of atheists? whats wrong with you people do you have OCD or autism?


peace.

what i'm trying to show you is that all you need to do is admit it is a faith. there are even atheists who will say that is wrong but that's not necessarily true.

there is no concrete proof for a concept of god. that is a personal belief.

i'm a lot more open-minded than some atheists actually. i leave a lot of room for possiblities but i'll also point out inconsistencies or contradictions also.

it's not healthy to not have your beliefs challenged sometimes. you just need to refine them better, that's all.

I have stated like a billion times but you guys still want proof, like look at DW he keeps asking for proof when i tell him i have none. It's like a mental deseise some people have where they stick their fingers in their ears and go LALALALALALALA i cant hear you.


Seriously why are you here in the religion foru,, like you guys can read English right? You clicked on the sub forum titled RELIGION. you understand this right? there are hundreds of science threads but yet you choose to come to the religion forums?. I am a member of physics forums aswell why dont you go there and talk about real science.

This is more like science fictionf orum compared to physicsforums. maybe some of you just cant debate in real science forums so you choose to come in here to feel smart because you get booted from physics forums for being laymen.


peace.

i don't remember specifically asking for proof. are you assuming that i did?

when it's a faith or speculation, there is no need for proof. when it is stated that it is a fact, then there does need to be proof.

it's true that some things are true that don't have concrete proof but it's best to admit that too.
 
It's not just that I don't like it, I think it's a wicked idea to call certain natural thoughts crimes or even self-punishing. It turns a person against their own nature and makes them self-hating.

i actually makes people suffer and die, and you can be bitter about it if you want to.
 
I will remind you this is the religion sub-forum of a science forum.



So you're just making ridiculous claims knowing full well that you can't back them up. Got it.

You spend more time in the religion sub forums than the science sub forums, clicking on your post history confirms this.


Actualy if anyone wants to take a look at your post history they will be in for a treat. it's like trodging through pages and pages of sarcastic ill mannered youtube comments. Have you ever actualy read your own post history?.

Try giving your post history to a pro shrink and ask his opinion of your mental defectiveness. you are a class 1 pessimist and troll king.


All Hail the rude troll King
 
You spend more time in the religion sub forums than the science sub forums, clicking on your post history confirms this.
Then you need to learn to count as well.

Try giving your post history to a pro shrink and ask his opinion of your mental defectiveness. you are a class 1 pessimist and troll king.
Projecting again?
Still waiting for the answer you said you'd give.
Or was that another of your fantasies?

Isn't it funny that whenever you run into a difficult question you resort to ad homs?
 
Forgiveness is not only towards others. Forgiving ourself is just as important.

absolutely. it's probably impossible to forgive others if you don't think you're guilty.

oh no, wait a minute. it's not impossible, it's jesus.
 
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