Do you believe god communicates with me?

Do you believe god communicates with me?

  • yes

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • no

    Votes: 23 71.9%
  • i don't know

    Votes: 3 9.4%
  • i don't care

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    32
So looking at your butt is fatal? I didn't know you were Medusa!

why does it have to be? why can't you just appreciate a lovely butt in a correct way?

like i would appreciate your hairy beer gut.

isn't that why islamic women have to be covered from head to toe? because men are pathetic?
 
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This is more like science fictionf orum compared to physicsforums. maybe some of you just cant debate in real science forums so you choose to come in here to feel smart because you get booted from physics forums for being laymen.


peace.

then you don't need to compartmentalize religion. just admit it's a faith.

you don't go to the physics forum and keep insisting your beliefs are facts, do you?

it would be just as erroneous for one to emphatically say another's hypothesis or theory is untrue when there is no evidence either way just as well.

what i find intrigueing is that faith is just as strong even without concrete evidence. you don't have to have proof to have faith in something. it's only when evidence presents itself that it's untrue that it becomes an issue.
 
what i'm trying to show you is that all you need to do is admit it is a faith. there are even atheists who will say that is wrong but that's not necessarily true.

there is no concrete proof for a concept of god. that is a personal belief.

i'm a lot more open-minded than some atheists actually. i leave a lot of room for possiblities but i'll also point out inconsistencies or contradictions also.

it's not healthy to not have your beliefs challenged sometimes. you just need to refine them better, that's all.

Lol yes you actualy engage in a debate instead of using copy paste rebuttles that you see frequently on youtube anti islamic videos and anti bible videos.

Personal proof i can say is true but public proof is completely different, See i have been given personal proofs and they lead me to believe, i wasn't born into religion I am kind of new to being a believer and im appoaching 30.

But I assure you if you ever get shown a personal proof you will become a believer just like I did, But you have to have a real desire for truth and you actualy have to be a good person. I actualy started to pray before i even wa sa believer, Imagine a non believer praying to god and thanking a god i didnt truly believe in. maybe this is what finaly let me aquire faith?.

Ask most atheists to get down and pray and bow down to god and they will saay "NO WAY" even some christians wont even bow down to their own creator! think about it, it's pride and arrogance that seperates you from knowing god. I needed to humble myself before he gave me faith, and I don't think he will let arrogant people have this kind of peace that i ahve been given.


I can't even get my christian friends to bow down to god lol, but then again how can i even be sure they really do believe? they might just say they believe who knows. but anyone who really believes in him i think would think he deserves a bowing down too. He is god after all.


Im a muslim yeah but i won't bow down to the kaa'ba I have no problem facing the east when i pray praying towards the holy land yeah sure thats fine. But getting down infront of the ka'ba and bowing? no i still refuse to do that and alot of my muslim friends say im not a real muslim because of this very reason.

I know the Ka'ba isnt what muslims worship i know it's just to keep us in unison and i know mecca is actualy the center of the world so it makes sense to pray towards it in a unified fashion to give some kind of order, but i still wont bow down infront of the kabaa not even on hajj lol.


I might get more confortable with it later in life and after i talk to god about it more but for now no i refuse to bow down to anything that i can see.


Peace.
 
then you don't need to compartmentalize religion. just admit it's a faith.

you don't go to the physics forum and keep insisting your beliefs are facts, do you?

it would be just as erroneous for one to emphatically say another's hypothesis or theory is untrue when there is no evidence either way just as well.

what i find intrigueing is that faith is just as strong even without concrete evidence. you don't have to have proof to have faith in something. it's only when evidence presents itself that it's untrue that it becomes an issue.



Understand my position and my loyalty to god though, I dont say "its personal opinion" I say "its the truth" out of my loyalty to god. If i start telling people "its my personal opinion god exists but he might not" this is being dissloyal just to conform to the rules of an atheist.

I would rather get banned than say "in my personal opinion", You all know it's my personal opinion so why would you need me to add that to every statement i make just to appease some non beleivers?.

Are we that childish to have to force me to add "in my personal opion" to everything i type? i refuse to do so and i will take any punishment anyone wants to give me for not adding those words to my sentence.


You all know its my personal opinion so why should i need to keep reminding you all?.


peace
 
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M*W: I believe that if god talks to you, you should be up there with Jimmy Swaggart, Benny Hinn and Joyce Meyer making megabucks. I don't believe god talks to them either. They have just found a method of making money off of morons. Money is their god.
 
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M*W: I believe that if god talks to you, you should be up there with Jimmy Swaggart, Benny Hinn and Joyce Meyer making megabucks. I don't believe god talks to them either. They have just found a method of making money off of morons. Money is their god.


Are you still on your anti god crusade to purge the world of anything remotely divine?. Let it go dudette its been how many years now?


Peace.
 
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M*W: I believe that if god talks to you, you should be up there with Jimmy Swaggart, Benny Hinn and Joyce Meyer making megabucks. I don't believe god talks to them either. They have just found a method of making money off of morons. Money is their god.

it's not mine. i want to live in a world where there is no money. and i don't doubt for one minute that god talks to joyce meyer. that woman's insights have helped me quite a bit. i can tell by listening to her that god has intervened in her life and changed her for the better. our personalities are similar. at least when preaching.
 
Then you need to learn to count as well.


Projecting again?
Still waiting for the answer you said you'd give.
Or was that another of your fantasies?

Isn't it funny that whenever you run into a difficult question you resort to ad homs?

Man I told you im not answering your question until you tell me what your philosophy on the universe and existence is.

Im refusing to answer you, like directly saying "No", Give me your philosophy or im not doing it.


peace.
 
Are you still on your anti god crusade to purge the world of anything remotely divine?. Let it go dudette its been how many years now?


Peace.

give her a break; she was a catholic for crying out loud. indoctrination is no joke.

you do have a responsibility to get over it though mw.
 
EmptyForceOfChi said:
Just because im a jew does not mean I can deliver moral positions upon the isralites of old.
Good, I would be surprised if you thought you could defend genocide. Doesn't this incident show that those Jews did what they wanted to and justified it later in their holy book?

EmptyForceOfChi said:
Do you actualy understand your position when you say good and evil exist?, you are saying you actualy believe in something as wacko as Good and Evil? but on the other hand God is a load of rubbish?.
These concepts are part of being a social animal, some of us are called psychopaths and we don't want them in our society. God isn't the source of these ideas or you would have to believe that humanity came all this way (100-200K years) stealing and murdering until the Jews came to Sinai and only then they discovered that these things were wrong.


EmptyForceOfChi said:
Think about what you are saying here spider, seriously think about it, you are trying to say that the universe somehow evolved morality, that atoms became sentient and started judging other atoms do you see how funny this is??.
If we evolved, then we evolved traits to get along with each other as a species. It's no different than evolving eyes or hands.

EmptyForceOfChi said:
A group of atoms actualy evolved into morality and justice. You want to dismiss religion and god but you like the idea of morals and ethics so you clung onto those aspects.
Atoms are actually pretty wonderful. There is a depth to materialism that seem to be lost on you. I suspect because talking about personalities and intentions is easier for humans to relate to than physics.


EmptyForceOfChi said:
How can you as an atheist even justify to another person even the concept of morality?. What if i wan't to eat you? you can't say im wrong when im just a animal who wants to eat another animal. How can you preach to anyone about any kind of morality when to you there is no true reason for good and evil to even exist it's all just opinion you are still avoiding this very fatal flaw in your own understanding and i am beginning tot hink you are aware of it and just dont want to confront this very ugly fact.
I am giving you the benefit of the doubt for now as you might be ignorant to what im explaining to you.
If you are starving, and I am dead or dying, then it might not be immoral to eat me. But if there is food around why kill a fellow human being? The atheist would say that solidarity with our fellow primates is as good a source as any for guiding moral action. Why don't I go around killing and abusing people? It's in part because I would not get very far in life if I did that. No appeal to the supernatural is needed. However, if you think god is on your side, you might be willing to even kill your own child, which Abraham was prepared to do. Or if you like Islam, you might be think that if your child was an apostate to Islam, he should be killed and you would be rewarded in the afterlife for it. Without religion, good people do good things, and bad people do bad things, but it takes religion to make good people do bad things.


EmptyForceOfChi said:
How can ana theist even justify morality? how can you tell me I cant eat you? survival of the fittest remember my laddo so get in my belly Nom Nom Nom
Adaptation doesn't just mean the strongest or most brutal, it also means those who can get along with their kind, who can cooperate, who can be altruistic. Have you read the theories on the evolution of altruism?
 
it's not mine. i want to live in a world where there is no money. and i don't doubt for one minute that god talks to joyce meyer. that woman's insights have helped me quite a bit. i can tell by listening to her that god has intervened in her life and changed her for the better. our personalities are similar. at least when preaching.


Don't worry when jesus returns people wont value money anymore, because there will be only a few people left alive and so much wealth people wont even bother collecting any of it.


Come on jesuscome and kick some ass!
 
why does it have to be? why can't you just appreciate a lovely butt in a correct way?

like i would appreciate your hairy beer gut.

isn't that why islamic women have to be covered from head to toe? because men are pathetic?

I am doing it the correct way. ;)
 
Man I told you im not answering your question until you tell me what your philosophy on the universe and existence is.

Im refusing to answer you, like directly saying "No", Give me your philosophy or im not doing it.
peace.
1) You made the initial claim.
2) I have answered your question.
 
1) You made the initial claim.
2) I have answered your question.


You did not give any kind of detailed explanation of the universe explaining why and how everything came to be.


Ifyou did accept my appology and link me to your post because I seriously did not see any form of detailed explanation.


Peace.
 
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