That is really quite offensive.
I was addressing a specific point. The claim, made by someone, that persons in public have a right not to be spoken to. That is arrant nonsense and focusing on that generic objection, wherein you conflate aggressive speech with any speech, you automatically brand a large portion of the population (male and female) as either mysogynist or idiot.
Let us address the language and the behaviour and the actions that are harmful to women and those that are harmful to men, indeed - for fucks sake - can we just address what harms people regardless of their age, sex, nationally, ethnicity, etc. Anything that is harmful, let's address it. But don't derail the whole fucking process by nit picking meaningless generalisations.
If I were a conspiracy theorist I would deduce that your intention is actually to harm and demean women. Since, I am not I conclude you are in fact, in this context, a well meaning fool.
Oh please.
You also said that women who are sexually harassed are "entitled" to be offended and if it is in some dark alley and she is alone at 2:00am, then she is entitled to feel threatened. While ignoring the realities of what happens to women at all hours, day or night, when they are sexually harassed. But I thank you for granting us the right to be "entitled". Because really, that was the cherry on top of all the offensive (and frankly downright stupid) things you had already said.
So yes, let us address the language and behaviour and the actions that are harmful to women and those that are harmful to men.. How about when we start with
you?
How about we start with your openly defending sexual harassment on the street? You want to start there? Or would you prefer we skip ahead to where you used the idiotic scenario of a woman in a dark alley at 2:00am and how it is only then that she is entitled to feel threatened, while ignoring the reality that harm comes to women in broad daylight, on busy streets and on public transport by the very men who are sexually harassing them by way of 'street harassment'... You know? The time slot you determined the woman would only be entitled to feel.. What was it that you said? Ah yes.. that the woman would only be entitled to feel offended..?
When you spend
your time nitpicking and creating ridiculous scenarios to excuse and determine when a woman should feel threatened from street harassment, you don't really have the right to complain about anyone "derailing the whole fucking process by nit picking meaningless generalisations"..
Strangely, there are advocates for women's rights who say things like a "woman's life is destroyed after rape."
Well, they would be right.
Rape is soul destroying. It ruins you and crushes you. Most are able to pick up a semblance of reality, but life is never the same after being raped.
Ever. In that sense, a woman's life is destroyed after rape, because she can never go back to who she was, the very life she led and most importantly how she was, prior to being raped. Many suffer from symptoms of PTSD, many suffer from panic attacks, nightmares, intimacy issues, trust issues, fear of going out, fear of being around other men, fear of being alone and being with people. How can you think it is strange that people say a woman's life is destroyed after rape? It isn't strange at all. That is pretty much the one thing that rape victims share. Their life is destroyed and they somehow have to try to cope with what happened to them and try to get past it enough to allow them to live a semblance of a normal life. It is haunting. It isn't something that just goes away.
Or do you think it's something women simply shower and all is hunky dory again like nothing had happened?
After one rape victim committed suicide, one such advocate for women's rights said, "What else could she have done? Her life was ruined because she was raped."
And?
Trauma like that can and often causes severe depression which yes, does sometimes lead to suicide. Her life was ruined because she was raped. She opted to kill herself to not suffer the pain that goes with being raped. A lot of rape victims suffer and a lot commit suicide as a result. What could she have done? I don't know. I can't give you the answer to that question because I haven't found it yet. Some opt to go a day at a time and for others, they cannot cope with it. Hence the tragedy.
This is absolutely horrible, coming from an advocate for women's rights. Apparently, such advocates think so little of women, that they, just like patriarchists and machists, consider women to be "perishable goods." This is absolutely horrible.
I'm sorry, what?
No, mtf, it's not that they think so little of women. They understand and realise that for some of these women, the pain and horror that they have endured is so much for them that it drives them to suicide. It's understanding that the crime is horrible enough that it can and does drive some to suicide. And many in society, who belittle rape victims, by dismissing their pain or assuming that they can or should just get back to normal like nothing had happened, or worse, expect women to get past it and return to normal and even worse, who set expectations or start questioning the woman about her actions and blaming her for her rape, contribute to the downward spiral that often drive rape victims to suicide.
So yeah, can the faux outrage. Seen it too many times to take your faux outrage seriously. No one is buying it.
Advocates for women's right have a legitimate concern, but the way they are often handling it is not helping their cause, it's making things worse.
Pray tell, how? By understanding that rape is bloody horrific in ways that cannot be described? You honestly don't have a clue, do you? Or perhaps you do but simply choose not to care and instead, pretend to be outraged by those dastardly evil feminists who demand that men stop harassing and raping women.
Let me guess, you don't think defending sexual harassment of women on the street makes it worse?