Crazy things famous Christians say

He's probably come to the conclusion that romantic attractions based on how one looks, or one's gender, is for the most part, a delusion.

He's living a lie in an attempt to appear "normal". Only that isn't normal for him. It's normal for others.
 
Children are brainwashed, period. If the parents aren't religious then the children are automatically brainwashed into not being religious.

jan.

They can be taught about religion more objectively then decide for themselves when they are mature enough. Proper teaching or picking something up from parents is not brainwashing. Teaching children to believe in fantasy before they are old enough to decide is brainwashing. Not teaching them such & not telling them they deserve to suffer for eternity unless they believe is not brainwashing.
 
StrangerInAStrangeLa,

They can be taught about religion more objectively then decide for themselves when they are mature enough.

Decide what?

Proper teaching or picking something up from parents is not brainwashing.
Teaching children to believe in fantasy before they are old enough to decide is brainwashing.

You can't teach belief. Didn't you know that?

What do you think Mickey Mouse is? Real?
What do you think the tale of Robin Hood is?
And the bogus theory of evolution? Puh! :D

Not teaching them such & not telling them they deserve to suffer for eternity unless they believe is not brainwashing.

Yeah! Because every single religion teaches that. Right? :rolleyes:

jan.
 
Because it's against his nature. Like being attracted to men isn't normal for you. Or maybe not?

How is his nature any different to any heterosexual man?
Surely heterosexuality is to be considered normal, because every male [or almost) have no problem having sex with females.

jan.
 
How is his nature any different to any heterosexual man?

Because he is sexually oriented towards men.

Surely heterosexuality is to be considered normal, because every male [or almost) have no problem having sex with females.

jan.

Not true. At least 5% of males are not sexually attracted to females. We call them "gay".

Should we say that because the majority of people in the US are white, that it is normal to be white in the US and abnormal to be non-white? No. Normalcy depends upon what is normal for YOU.
 
Magical Realist,

Because he is sexually oriented towards men.

Why is it his nature as opposed to his choice?
Is personal choice to be regarded as orientation?

Not true. At least 5% of males are not sexually attracted to females. We call them "gay".

So if you're not sexually attracted to a type, is that to be attributed to nature, or personal taste.
Again, does it become an orientation.

How do you determine that one is naturally not attractive to the opposite sex.

Should we say that because the majority of people in the US are white, that it is normal to be white in the US and abnormal to be non-white? No. Normalcy depends upon what is normal for YOU.

Not being normal doesn't automatically render you abnormal, especially in the example you giv, it simply means minority. However, if people started popping up with two heads...

jan.
 
jan said:
How do you determine that one is naturally not attractive to the opposite sex.
Attracted, you mean.

One way is by MRI brain scans. Another way is by using variants of the methods researchers use to determine pedophilia in unreliable subjects (and most are) - blood flow in the genitals is not under voluntary control, as it turns out.

There are all kinds of approaches and threads of evidence one can employ, if actually interested - and they have been employed, and they all agree: a normal human population will include a certain percentage range of homosexually oriented adults, and this will be true regardless of culture or upbringing or any other factor amenable to conscious choice and manipulation. Interestingly enough, the percentage is about in the range of lefthandedness - a similarly stubborn, similarly despised and frequently persecuted minority, with similarly inexplicable origins and similarly universal distribution.
 
Magical Realist,


Why is it his nature as opposed to his choice?
Is personal choice to be regarded as orientation?

Because it's his orientation. Noone chooses what gender they are sexually oriented to.


So if you're not sexually attracted to a type, is that to be attributed to nature, or personal taste.
Again, does it become an orientation.

Nope. Sexual orientation is a matter of what gender you are attracted to, not what "type".


How do you determine that one is naturally not attractive to the opposite sex.

You ask the person they're not attractive to. Duh..

Not being normal doesn't automatically render you abnormal, especially in the example you giv, it simply means minority.

Same with being gay. You are not abnormal, simply in the minority.


However, if people started popping up with two heads...

Never heard of that happening. Why do you mention it?
 
God has a Holy, Righteous Penis.

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Same with being gay. You are not abnormal, simply in the minority.

No. Abnormal means not normal. It is not a bad word or an insult. There is nothing wrong with being abnormal. The ab prefix means the same as the a in atheist. If I recall correctly, the ab prefix came from Latin & the a came from Greek. Speaking of atheists, we are abnormal too.
 
Magical Realist,

Why is it his nature as opposed to his choice?
Is personal choice to be regarded as orientation?

1 Because it's his orientation.

2 Noone chooses what gender they are sexually oriented to.

1 That doesn't answer the question. What makes it his orientation?

2 Not according to Cynthia Nixon. Apart from that, why do you think you can't choose whic gender you are oriented to, assuming we are using the definition of orientation:

Orientation - a person's basic attitude, beliefs, or feelings in relation to a particular subject or issue.

So if you're not sexually attracted to a type, is that to be attributed to nature, or personal taste.
Again, does it become an orientation.


Nope. Sexual orientation is a matter of what gender you are attracted to, not what "type".

Okay.

Never heard of that happening. Why do you mention it?

Because that would be seen as abnormal by today's standards.

jan.
 
No. Abnormal means not normal. It is not a bad word or an insult. There is nothing wrong with being abnormal. The ab prefix means the same as the a in atheist. If I recall correctly, the ab prefix came from Latin & the a came from Greek. Speaking of atheists, we are abnormal too.

"Not normal" has a bad connotation as well. Perhaps "abnormal" is best 'translated' as "out of the ordinary," "uncommon," or something like "not of the majority" or "not the norm."

By the way, being an atheist is pretty much the norm where I live.
 
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