Corona Virus 2019-nCoV

parmalee said:
And this is the sticking point--with respect to these other opportunities, how can you maintain that the U.S. has more than any/all other "first world" countries? Hence my example: An artist is not funded by a company, they rely upon grants and suchlike. Throughout Europe and elsewhere, said grants and opportunities to obtain said grants exist in abundance. That is very much not the case in the U.S.
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For artists - I will definitely agree with you there. Our arts endowments, while similar in amount to other countries (like the UK) are much smaller than other countries when it comes to funding compared to population.

However, for opportunities for creating new companies (new technologies, new business models, new industries) there is far more venture capital available here than anywhere else in the world. That's why so many new companies start here. In 2016, 66 billion dollars of venture capital went into startups in the US. By comparison, all of Europe had 4.7 billion invested.
It's not the only one, but it's certainly an essential one. When a person is hard pressed to come up with the capital essential simply in order to survive, their opportunity for "excelling," in any respect, is very much limited.
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Agreed there. Hence the importance of that 66 billion in capital.
 
billvon said:
Agreed there. Hence the importance of that 66 billion in capital.
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but this venture capital is only available to those who have the education levels to take advantage of it...
The issue being argued is about the USA as a whole population, including indigenous, poor, homeless, etc...
I get the impression that you are blind to the classes in the USA that have little opportunity.
Sure any one can claim that a select demographic has high opportunity but this is not being discussed or is it?
Certainly the issue of discrimination is being highlighted...IMO
 
Quantum Quack said:
but this venture capital is only available to those who have the education levels to take advantage of it...
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And the people those startups hire. And the new industries made possible by the startup.
The issue being argued is about the USA as a whole population, including indigenous, poor, homeless, etc...
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Yes. Once again we get into the difference between "jobs" and "opportunity." But yes, there are poor and unemployed people here.

Do you think Uber resulted in anyone getting more work? How about Grubhub? Lime?
I get the impression that you are blind to the classes in the USA that have little opportunity.
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If you say so. You will therefore stop responding to any of my posts because I am so blind and you are so woke and enlightened, right?
 
billvon said:
If you say so. You will therefore stop responding to any of my posts because I am so blind and you are so woke and enlightened, right?
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what?
Do you not like being challenged in your beliefs so that you can grow into a more mature and objective perspective?:p

Objectivity is what it is about after all is it not?
 
On topic,
Post crisis:
Many here in Australia are asking about how the world will look after we get to a more stable position. It appears obvious that where we are is unsustainable and this is no news of course.
The question of international travel comes up as our major air carriers face ruin.
One of those questions:
Will we have sufficient testing capacity to reopen tourism, business travel and international study?
  • Tested before getting on a plane and tested after they leave the plane..
  • Provision for quarantine accommodation at port of destination ( at travelers cost)

Should hard border restrictions be placed on China until they stop using wet markets?
what else?
 
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Quantum Quack said:
On topic,
Post crisis:
Many here in Australia are asking about how the world will look after we get to a more stable position. It appears obvious that where we are is unsustainable and this is no news of course.
The question of international travel comes up as our major air carriers face ruin.
One of those questions:
Will we have sufficient testing capacity to reopen tourism, business travel and international study?
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My view is everything will go back pretty much to the way it was before.

All most will learn is perhaps set aside some savings or food and simple necessities for the next crisis, some will be scared for life like some who experienced the great depression but in a year or two all of it may become just another memory.

Where a company goes broke someone will buy it's asserts and add to their business ...be it a business in oil or transport...any thing.
The deaths from this crisis will not effect the near seven billion humans who saw it happen.

Mark the calender..next year I suspect it will be behind us.

And what is not sustainable?

Alex
 
The poor are that way because they don't have jobs. When a company provides jobs, less are poor. Considered yourself educated QQ. :)

The homeless are a special problem anywhere. They are generally not about being poor. They are about mental illness and drug addiction.

Indigenous? Native American's aren't a big problem here.

Anyway, I was able to buy (my first ever) small bottle of hand sanitizer today so...the crisis is just about over. (if someone takes this comment seriously I'm going to come over to your house and beat you to a pulp)..again...a joke...
 
Honestly, probably half of corporate employees don’t need to “head back to work,” and can and probably are, working from home just fine. Unless you’re client interfacing, and/or working in plants and facilities, companies could easily keep employees at home, save on worker’s compensation insurance, and get out of those high rent offices that are quite useless. When Google installed adult playgrounds and other nonsense on site, most employees didn’t care for the additions - they wanted more time off and the opportunity to work from home part of the time.

I think business as we know it will change, people will not work more than they need to, and our priorities will shift, in corporate America. I’m sure all the micro managing babysitters who bring no value at all to most companies’ bottom line, will be laid off and only essential workers will remain. Hire the right people and you can trust that they’re doing the complete job working from home.
 
Seattle said:
Anyway, I was able to buy (my first ever) small bottle of hand sanitizer today so...the crisis is just about over. (if someone takes this comment seriously I'm going to come over to your house and beat you to a pulp)..again...a joke...
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I'll trade you half a toilet role for one hand sanitizer... lol
btw I know you have heaps of dunnie role but that is now..what about later?
Never have tooo much bog role....lol

Dunnie role
Bog role
loo paper..
no doubt a few more but can't think of it ....
 
wegs said:
Honestly, probably half of corporate employees don’t need to “head back to work,” and can and probably are, working from home just fine. Unless you’re client interfacing, and/or working in plants and facilities, companies could easily keep employees at home, save on worker’s compensation insurance, and get out of those high rent offices that are quite useless. When Google installed adult playgrounds and other nonsense on site, most employees didn’t care for the additions - they wanted more time off and the opportunity to work from home part of the time.

I think business as we know it will change, people will not work more than they need to, and our priorities will shift, in corporate America. I’m sure all the micro managing babysitters who bring no value at all to most companies’ bottom line, will be laid off and only essential workers will remain. Hire the right people and you can trust that they’re doing the complete job working from home.
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Yes there has been a trend towards remote working, but I wonder more about how long we can live with out restaurants, cafes, pubs, bars clubs, cinemas, festivals, or any groupings of people...
Q:
How do you design a cafe so that social distancing rules can be applied?
 
billvon said:
For artists - I will definitely agree with you there. Our arts endowments, while similar in amount to other countries (like the UK) are much smaller than other countries when it comes to funding compared to population.

However, for opportunities for creating new companies (new technologies, new business models, new industries) there is far more venture capital available here than anywhere else in the world. That's why so many new companies start here. In 2016, 66 billion dollars of venture capital went into startups in the US. By comparison, all of Europe had 4.7 billion invested.

Agreed there. Hence the importance of that 66 billion in capital.
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Did you say artists? Maybe you will like this.
 
Quantum Quack said:
Yes there has been a trend towards remote working, but I wonder more about how long we can live with out restaurants, cafes, pubs, bars clubs, cinemas, festivals, or any groupings of people...
Q:
How do you design a cafe so that social distancing rules can be applied?
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We can live a long time without bars. Restaurants and other establishments can learn a lot from the grocery stores with proper spacing.

Of course proper testing and follow up would help. :)
 
Seattle said:
We can live a long time without bars. Restaurants and other establishments can learn a lot from the grocery stores with proper spacing.

Of course proper testing and follow up would help. :)
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No, I am serious.... damn it... I've been going to the same cafe for over 18 years and know the last 4 owners like family.. sob ... sob ... sob...:(
How can we redesign a cafe so that people can go have their regular coffee with the little smiley cream art.. and meet up like they used to do?

treat it as a test case...a gedanken... a major thought experiment...:tongue:
 
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Lol CV19 won’t last forever - a few months won’t be the end of the world.
 
wegs said:
Honestly, probably half of corporate employees don’t need to “head back to work,” and can and probably are, working from home just fine. Unless you’re client interfacing, and/or working in plants and facilities, companies could easily keep employees at home, save on worker’s compensation insurance, and get out of those high rent offices that are quite useless. When Google installed adult playgrounds and other nonsense on site, most employees didn’t care for the additions - they wanted more time off and the opportunity to work from home part of the time.

I think business as we know it will change, people will not work more than they need to, and our priorities will shift, in corporate America. I’m sure all the micro managing babysitters who bring no value at all to most companies’ bottom line, will be laid off and only essential workers will remain. Hire the right people and you can trust that they’re doing the complete job working from home.
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also... ( I am sure you have already considered it )
It isn't just about making money but about spending it...
The hospitality industry ( Accom. Food, tourism etc) are huge employers that can't function if employees work from home.

wegs said:
Lol CV19 won’t last forever
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what makes you think that?
 
Big shop today...spent a fortune but was able to get toilet paper but no sugar.
Fortunately a neighbour gave me some honey from his hives, saying ... they (his need) probably got it all from your place...anyways honey in my tea is great.
Alex
 
Quantum Quack said:
No, I am serious.... damn it... I've been going to the same cafe for over 18 years and know the last 4 owners like family.. sob ... sob ... sob...:(
How can we redesign a cafe so that people can go have their regular coffee with the little smiley cream art.. and meet up like they used to do?

treat it as a test case...a gedanken... a major thought experiment...:tongue:
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Just space the tables 6 feet or more apart, space the line to pay or to get in out and don't let hundreds of people in at once.
 
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