What that simply means is that blacks are catching up and have a lot of catching up to do, and therefore the justification of programs such as affirmative action.
I disagree. I think that shows its time to end the affirmative action perks for "black america". I dont think White America owes Black America anything other than equal access, which has been provided as far as I am concerned. Just how long before Black America figures all things being equal (via SAT scores) let the best man win (so to speak). How long do we have to accomodate Black America via entry perks based on race?
Your data shows a 40% difference between Black single family homes and White single family homes. How is this then of any relevance.
Statistically two parent familys provide more opportunity for their children than one parent familes irrespective of race. With the historic trend in Black familiess of being more and more single parent families, it just follows that the income per family would be lower and that would result in Black America having a higher rate of poverty. As the stats show along with corp. am. fleeing the city and country (addressed further down).
http://www.bsos.umd.edu/socy/vanneman/socy441/trends/povftype.html
http://www.bsos.umd.edu/socy/vanneman/socy441/trends/poveduc.html
http://www.bsos.umd.edu/socy/vanneman/socy441/trends/droprac2.html
You miss my point and ignored the other. The point is that these images are of course reflective of social programming. A lot of blacks suffer a slavish mentality that is damning. It is this very reason why role models are needed. Women also used to suffer a lack of social models needed to build up said "free" images. Do not oversimply for the sake of your doctrine.
I didnt miss your point. After all, I posted a link showing how minority in government numbers are changing. Contrary to what you implied. And until Black America can offer up a worthy presidential candidate get used to the fact no one will vote for "Louis Farrakhan" types, or "Al Sharpton" types. I wont vote for a president to make "Black America" feel better. I have a greater responsiblity for what is good for the country as a whole.
As far as "blacks slavish mentality", seek a therapists help.
If Black America doesnt have role models thats not White Americas fault. Look within the black community for answers to that.
Every single statistic you showed clearly demonstrates a significant difference by race and yet you make them!
From your source:
Yes, and combined with the lack of education within "Black America" it is a perfect example of cause and effect. Its all related. But take heart! In the 90s Black America achieved an 80%+ high school graduation rate, the highest recorded so far! Twenty years from now (or less) you should see an impact there in the economic statistics. Such is life! The graduation rates are reflective of the real issue. If Black America numbers as a whole are 12% of the total population, and you have almost 20% drop out rate, you shouldnt expect to amount to great numbers in the other areas of societal sucess. I mean come on, why should the rest of the rates reflect anything else. If all things are equal, shouldnt college attendance rates reflect all the above and below mentioned factors? They should, but they dont.
Heres the numbers as best as I could get. Black America = 12% of the population. Of this number, between 80 and 83% of their children graduate high school. Of this number, approximatly 50% enroll in college. Of this number approximatly 14.5% graduate college.
White America = 69% of the population. Of this number, around 90% of their children graduate high school. Of this number approximatly 63% enroll in college. Of this number approximatly 29+% graduate college.
Simply put, it just follows that white america as a whole will do better than black america as a whole. And these are numbers from the mid 90s. I dont see why we should continue with programs based on race. Why not focus on ability?
http://nces.ed.gov/pubs97/web/97269s.asp
More on this to follow below under corp america fleeing the cities.
Clinically? or just generally in the "oh so lighthearted" definition of insane? You did not address the "what is irrational about finding affirmative action to be unfair?"
These said business went to the suburbs. Are you so ignorant as to be unaware that most cities in America used to be predominantly white? Or that most revenue streams in city governments come from taxed businesses? The "white flight" of the cities is a fact.
I thought most cities in america are predominantly white being as most of america is white. Do you have the links to this claim about cities and race? Or did you mean as a whole Black America is predominantly in the city. I did a quick search and couldnt find much.
And another point of that. Who are you to complain about where people chose live. This is another thing that bugs me to no end. My family moved out of the city to the country to give us (their kids) a better life. This was a white community we fled in the late 60s. This was something alot of people did just because it was simply for a better life and will continue to do so.
So you are denying that the textile industry moved offshore? That had a huge impact on the southern states. The electronics industry moving to Asia and Japan? Let me guess.... You werent even born then. How about this for closer to home. Detroit and GM moving to mexico? Additionally those low end jobs that went to china impacted the least educated among the whole country. Of course there is the additional factor of the huge number of women who entered the workforce since the 70s, competing with Black America for jobs. Are you so "ignorant" on the workforce in america?
Unemployment rates of recent high school graduates not enrolled in college, by race (percent):
Year ... Black ... White
1989 ... 24.5 ... 12.1
1990 ... 35.8 ... 14.8
1991 ... 51.8 ... 20.6
1992 ... 39.3 ... 13.5
1993 ... 34.5 ... 20.1
1994 ... 50.7 ... 11.4
If black america is predominantly in the cities as you claim, it would follow that their unemployment rate is higher being as the jobs that used to employ them have moved either out of the city or out of the country.
As far as most revenue streams in city governments coming from taxed businesses, maybe that is why business bailed out of cities. Its all about profits. That is what occured in the rural area I grew up in. Small factories opened up simply because they got cheap labor, cheap taxes and lots of room to expand with limited gov. reg. interferance. Plus the better transportation access. You know, the freeways system that was a huge government expendature that is still being expanded to accomdate the change in regional lifestyles and population growth?
Thats what happened to my dad in the 80s. His company shut down in our state and moved to a neighboring state. Cheap taxes, cheap labor... blah blah blah. But it most surely was not about race.
One of the things my economics teachers covered was corp. am. and its lack of loyalty to their workers. It was a trend started in the 70s and impacted all labor, not just Black America. Just ask those people looking for jobs since HP (and other tech companies) moved its help offshore to India, for a very recent example. And its not just tech companies. State gov. is moving data offshore too. Hospitals too. Credit card/financial companies too. This list of employers grows each quarter. Further isolating the less educated from employment.
I have asserted that the mind set of the African American culture is also to blame. I do not however like this growing trend of people ignoring the past or its effects in their presently dismal state. I do not think it fair, this movement to eliminate the programs that help better this subgroup of American, when it is clear that the work is not even close to completion.
And I dont think its fair that Black America is given an advantage based soley on skin color for college access. I think Black America should have to compete via test scores alone. I think these issues (mind set) in Black America fall on Black Americas shoulders.
I'm involved in many community activities and programs that attempt to better the Black youth.One day I shall hopefully hire a bunch of them for my business.
Ok. Pretend your an employer now. You want to make money. The most money you can. Two people come for a job in your business. The business is a car repair service. One white, one black. Both have equal job qualifications. You have one job opening. Who do you hire? I will assume you would hire the black man. I havent any problem with that. I do have a problem with people screaming racism when the white employer hires the white applicant, under the same condition. Why should a Black person be given preference due to skin color over a White?
To suggest however that as this is not currently being done by I, there shouldn't be any ranting or opinions as to the matter is nonsensical.
And that works both ways. White America has its right to rant about the unfairness that their kids are being denied placements in college based on race rather than ability. Why if all things being equal, the black student gets the placement or the school gets sued? But thats not what you want is it? You want preferential treatment for Black America rather than equality. Of course, all things dont have to be equal for the black student to be placed over the white student. Isnt it michigan that applies up to 100 points based on race? How about 1 point? That would be a more "all things being equal" determination.
For me, I was all for affirmative action until I started seeing broadcasts about how its been applied. I wanted equal not preferential treatment. I want the best students to get their chances along with their equals. Time to toss the preferential treatment based on skin color. I see no reason for it to continue.
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