Black Americans should be pissed!

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Aye, as is most other stuff. But the guys in China still need to be paid, you only have to throw a slave some scraps of food now and then. Hence it could be cheaper.
 
Well, not really. A slave has to be guarded, forced to work, the quality would be worse.. etc
 
why are some posters here saying what they say about important issues. like the one who says they dont give a fuck what hppens to 'em' ie, 'Blacks'...etc

emmm, 'blacks' aren't 'blacks' they are humans....as 'whites' are humans, as 'red skins' are humans.

are you really racist? or are you beling clever. or are you showing your age? do you still live with mammy and daddy? not that thers anything wrong with that, but you seem so immature to just slag people off like this. cant you be serious about shit. have you any idea what it might be LIKe for people who get fucked with by a fascist society. have you? let me know
 
cant you be serious about shit. have you any idea what it might be LIKe for people who get fucked with by a fascist society.
I have a good idea, but since that isn't an issue for me it is not of my concern whether there are millions dying in africa or people being discriminated in america or not.
 
If I was an American, I would say that my opinion might be racist and would be discriminating. But since I live some thousand miles away from America, I do not give a fuck, and I surely won´t travel over the ocean into a country I generally regard as insane just to demonstrate alongside some african americans who are fed up with the way things are while a big part of their brothers and sisters sit on their asses biding their time. There are enough problems at hand just outside my door, and those problems mostly come in form of neo nazis, russian, turksih and polish gangs that sometimes wage war around here. And I really don´t have a problem stomping rassist idiots who think that it is allright to beat up people that do not behave according to their views.

So I think that the Americans should look after themself.
 
thefountainhed:There are no historical accounts of jewish slavery as indicated by the bible.

Yes, the bible does indicate jewish slavery. And if the ancient egyptians chisled historical events in heiroglyphic on their temple walls, then they also mention jewish slavery.
Also, you don't even know me, what gives you the right or nerve to say I'm as cute and brainy as a maggot? I don't even know you but from reading the little you have posted, I already have a name picked out for you.
 
Let’s start with a quick history lesson:
Lets not... Lets deal with now.
The Black remains the poorest of all the ethnicities in the nation because he had no other choice. He is the most uneducated because he is the poorest. And while a few have managed to be very successful—wealth-- in this nation through means other than entertainment, it still remains that at this point in the history of this nation, Blacks are far behind Whites in every social category.

Poverty rates show the % of African American in poverty has fallen at a faster rate than any other race/ethinic group. Notice how white american poverty levels have remain pretty steady.

http://www.bsos.umd.edu/socy/vanneman/socy441/trends/povrace.html

Probably the most significant factor in any disparity by race:

http://www.bsos.umd.edu/socy/vanneman/socy441/trends/poveduc.html
and this:
http://www.bsos.umd.edu/socy/vanneman/socy441/trends/hhrace.html
Consider, how more comfortable is the image of a White president as opposed to a Black president? What exactly besides the skin colour is the barrier that blocks people from accepting this as a logical step?

Minorities in government statistics: http://www.bsos.umd.edu/socy/vanneman/socy441/trends/polrace.html

What of an image of a black “God”? The issue is that both subtle and unsubtle, yet socially accepted constructs of the society are prejudiced against the blacks Americans.

You can make up any image of God you want to. And I can chose to follow that image or reject it. Such is the opportunity of freedom of religion.

Point, as I am getting tired, is that the Black American has every right to be pissed. Hell, he should be pissed. He has been pissed on for centuries and after 40 years of half-assed attempts to help him elevate by means of law—as his society is by default inept at achieving thus—a whole new movement of Whites, especially young Whites, are starting to bitch about affirmative action—one of his primarily ladders out of the proverbial slum. If you are white and not an immigrant or a second generation immigrant, and still facing the pitfalls the average Black American faces, then blame your parents/grandparents for having been failures

I think that the biggest complaint with affirmative action is that the playing field has been leveled and its time to dump these advantages to some people based on race. Why should these programs be continued in this day?

The root of the present problem: whites abandoning of the cities, and thus lost tax revenue plus business, precipitating in rises in crime, drug use, etc due to unavailable funds to fight the problems is still in motion. History has taught that a poor and depraved people placed amongst themselves, and practically separated from society to develop their own inner dynamics remain stuck in the same place. I think each time a White person makes an irrational statement regarding the unfairness of affirmative action, the Black outta respond, “Fuck you”.

First off, what does people leaving the cities and taking their business with them have to do with affirmative action? Where did these businesses go? They went off shore didnt they? How does that tie in to Black America? It seems to be about "cheap labor, cheap taxes, and no regulation". Secondly, what is irrational about finding affirmative action to be unfair?

The whole of your post seems to be... Its whiteys fault.... I dont buy into that victim mentality, especially with all the opportunities that are tossed aside. What do you plan to do? How about this: Get yourself involved with the Black American youth and offer them an example of success rather than clinging to past injustices. Open a business and hire some Black Americans. Then come back and let us hear some success stories rather than victim mentality rants.

Index of Maryland doc http://www.bsos.umd.edu/socy/vanneman/socy441/trends/list.html

another interesting site of statistics:
Index of TRENDS IN THE WELL-BEING OFAMERICA'S CHILDREN & YOUTH, 1997 Edition
http://aspe.hhs.gov/hsp/97trends/intro-web.htm
 
what a stupid post....all u black people shut up, u've got just as many rights as anybody else, stop complaining about how u were oppressed in the past....every ethinic group in the history of the world has been oppressed for one reason or another, so just shut the hell up

and for all u blacks that dont think u have the same rights as others... at my college, there is a black engineers club...can i join it? of course not cuz im white...what do u think would happen if i tried to start a club for just white people....jeez i dont even want to know...
 
and affirmative action? what the hell is that all about?

i go into a job, with better qualifications than some black guy that comes in for the same job...but he gets the job becuase the employer does not have enough black people working for him....is that right? how can that possibly be considered moving forward in the fight against racism? it is just the opposite
 
Black Americans should be pissed!

Their past is very unfortunate, and when I read books about it, watch films about it etc... It pisses me off. Although their past was unfortunate, it would be best if they weren't pissed. Seriously, where would society be?. The African Americans would hold a grudge and not exactly trust any white Americans...

What if the Irish, still held that grudge against the English?. Or the French and the Germans?, or the world and the Germans?.
 
how can that possibly be considered moving forward in the fight against racism? it is just the opposite
yes, I heard the same from a friend who works in the latvian embassy in washington.
they wanted to hire a secretary (most of the embassy workers are second or first generation latvian imigrants), but they couldn't do it and were ordered to hire an african woman who had just come out of a jail, was on the narcotic addicts list and knew nothing of latvia or our culture. it turned well in the end because she refused to take the job, because the sallary was smaller than the unemployment benefits she got from the state.
if I were an employer I'd be pissed off about this
it's good that there are no such foolesness over here
 
What if the Irish, still held that grudge against the English?. Or the French and the Germans?, or the world and the Germans?.
I have all the rights to hold grudge towards germans and swedish (600 years of occupation), or towards the russians for the repressions they did for 50 years (many from my family were sent to far north, deprived of their property and land) and that is a lot worse than some slavery god knows how many years ago.
But past is past. Learn from it, but not live it every day. It's stupid.
Of course africans love that, because that gives them "rights" in the USA to discriminate other races.
If they will ever try to do that over here.. they shall have a taste of the Middle Ages European attitude again.
 
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do we really need the corrections, i think we get the point rappacini

and please refrain if u feel the need to correct this post. no one really cares.
 
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I'm not addressing you, specifically. I correct grammar out of habit, anyways; it's not really "nitpicking," seeing as it takes less brain power than staring at my feet.

Does it look as though this topic is meaningful or debatable?
This thread is a transparent, half-assed sublimation of the Hed's sexual frustration.

I don't even know why I'm participating in it to this extent. I must be more restless than I thought.

I better depart from this intellectual flatland before I start sharing my own, ill-conceived, very personal grudges against society and angrily shaking my fist at "the man"... or something else really gay.
 
milkweed said:
Lets not... Lets deal with now.


Poverty rates show the % of African American in poverty has fallen at a faster rate than any other race/ethinic group. Notice how white american poverty levels have remain pretty steady.

http://www.bsos.umd.edu/socy/vanneman/socy441/trends/povrace.html
What that simply means is that blacks are catching up and have a lot of catching up to do, and therefore the justification of programs such as affirmative action.

Your data shows a 40% difference between Black single family homes and White single family homes. How is this then of any relevance.

You can make up any image of God you want to. And I can chose to follow that image or reject it. Such is the opportunity of freedom of religion.
You miss my point and ignored the other. The point is that these images are of course reflective of social programming. A lot of blacks suffer a slavish mentality that is damning. It is this very reason why role models are needed. Women also used to suffer a lack of social models needed to build up said "free" images. Do not oversimply for the sake of your doctrine.

I think that the biggest complaint with affirmative action is that the playing field has been leveled and its time to dump these advantages to some people based on race. Why should these programs be continued in this day?
Every single statistic you showed clearly demonstrates a significant difference by race and yet you make them!
From your source:

Unemployment by race:
http://www.bsos.umd.edu/socy/vanneman/socy441/trends/unemrace.html

Poverty by ethnicity:
http://www.bsos.umd.edu/socy/vanneman/socy441/trends/unemrace.html

Family income by race!!
http://www.bsos.umd.edu/socy/vanneman/socy441/trends/raceinc.html

First off, what does people leaving the cities and taking their business with them have to do with affirmative action? Where did these businesses go? They went off shore didnt they? How does that tie in to Black America? It seems to be about "cheap labor, cheap taxes, and no regulation". Secondly, what is irrational about finding affirmative action to be unfair?
Are you insane? These said business went to the suburbs. Are you so ignorant as to be unaware that most cities in America used to be predominantly white? Or that most revenue streams in city governments come from taxed businesses? The "white flight" of the cities is a fact.

The whole of your post seems to be... Its whiteys fault.... I dont buy into that victim mentality, especially with all the opportunities that are tossed aside.
I have asserted that the mind set of the African American culture is also to blame. I do not however like this growing trend of people ignoring the past or its effects in their presently dismal state. I do not think it fair, this movement to eliminate the programs that help better this subgroup of American, when it is clear that the work is not even close to completion.

What do you plan to do? How about this: Get yourself involved with the Black American youth and offer them an example of success rather than clinging to past injustices.
I'm involved in many community activities and programs that attempt to better the Black youth.

Open a business and hire some Black Americans. Then come back and let us hear some success stories rather than victim mentality rants.
One day I shall hopefully hire a bunch of them for my business. To suggest however that as this is not currently being done by I, there shouldn't be any ranting or opinions as to the matter is nonsensical.
 
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