FreeMason said:
Blackmonkeystatue, that's untrue. Blacks in the South were human beings, they were religious inspired, care-takers of children of their "evil racist over-lords" and skilled artisans who worked with Stone, mortar, metal and wood (carpentry). They were not brutalized like pigs, as Northern Abolitionists (none of whom ever lived in the Deep South, even Frederick Douglas was from Maryland) have suggested.
Ah got to love that denial.
Next I guess you're going to say that their trips to the US from Africa were in luxury cruise liners and the chains that bound them were really expensive jewellery given to them as gestures of good will.
Of course, all human beings are traded like goods. All human beings are forced into Christianity and forced to be given good Christian names. Not to mention that all human beings are forced into unpaid labour. Let me guess. They were paid in that they received free room and board? Hmmm.. How lovely. To be taken by force from your home, family, country and placed on ships, taken to another country, beaten, demoralized, chained, bought and sold like one sells cattle, forced to work for nothing, and if they were lucky enough, they might even be killed for daring to disobey or not do as
Masta wished.. Good grief! Sounds like a holiday.
And of course they weren't brutalized like pigs. Pigs aren't whipped into submission, because to do so would ruin that leg of pork that one had planned for dinner.
Yes they were human beings, hence why I guess retreating into denial of history makes you sleep so much better at night. Keep telling yourself that they were seen as equal during the times of slavery. Hell, you probably don't even think they were slaves, just a few lucky bastards who made it over to the land of the free (if you were white)... What ever makes you feel better. Hell, African Americans were so equal, they weren't even allowed to sit in the front of the bus in many States in the 50's. You can get on the bus, you just can't sit in front of the sign that says For Negroes.. Now that's what I call equality and treating them like human beings.
If Slaves were so brutalized, then when they had such a chance at freedom, they would have taken it, such as Thomas Jackson's slave, why didn't he just kill Jackson in his bed and run off hoping to make it to the "Promised land"?
Could it be because they knew that if they did, they'd be killed themselves? Could it be that if they killed Jackson and run off hoping to make it to the promised land, they'd be captured and slaughtered themselves?
Why didn't Slaves kill women and children in their sleep like the Natives did during the Revolutionary war (encouraged by the British), when they had a chance? (Maybe partially due to militias, but even in part?)
To serve what purpose? To escape through the means of their own death? Could you be more naive? Let me give you some information of what happened to slaves who did try and fight back against their masters:
1739 South Carolina Twenty slaves grouped together near the Stono River and went on a rampage against white businesses and white slave owners. They had killed around 60 white people before the local militia put an end to it and executed all of them.
1811 New Orleans 500 hundred slaves decided to fight back at a sugar plantation. They destroyed many plantations and businesses, killing many whites, until the military and the militia, killing around 99 or so of the slaves, after which the heads of the dead slaves were put on posts along the Mississippi River to let the slaves know of the punishment that will befall them if they dared fight back.
1831 Southampton Of course who can forget Nat Turner, the slave who led the Southampton Insurrection. He led around 60 other slaves, in killing their white master and his family. They then went on a revolt, killing every white man, woman and child they came across. After killing 55 white folk, the revolt was crushed by the military. 13 slaves and 3 free slaves were hanged. Turner had managed to escape but was later captured and hanged. But that was not enough. The military, so fearful of any futher revolts by the slaves, went on a killing spree of their own, killing several hundred slaves as punishment for Turner's uprising against his white master.
Not all slaves were treated well, some rebelled, but many were not treated brutally, this is simply evident by the response of the enslaved.
One would think that being killed and having your head mounted on a post as punishment for rebelling would amount to brutal treatment. But I guess not every person's view of brutality is the same...
Look at it at an economical view point if you must, if you own a Porche, and it's not working well, you're not going to beat the crap out of it unless you're an irrational person with some issues.
No. Because the car is a luxury item that will not work for free to make you wealthy. A slave on the other hand could be traded like cattle. If a slave broke, one didn't fix him/her, one just replaced, usually after having killed him/her. The replacement cost of a slave was much cheaper than the replacement cost of a porsche. Funny that huh?
Like-wise, some irrational people with issues would beat their slaves when they didn't work well, but more commonly then not, they'd train them to work well at a young age, as they would their own children, by whipping them.
And here you were, saying they weren't brutalised..
crazy151drinker said:
So please complain all you want about Slavery (and at the same time forget to mention that the Indians were used as Slaves) and all I have to say is: Smallpox.
Yes, they too were treated like fellow human beings and given aid in the form of food and blankets. Lets just forget the fact that the unwashed blankets came from hospitals where people were treated for small pox..
American Indians were treated as badly, if not worse than African Americans. You're absolutely correct.
