? It also demonstrates what I'm saying. You don't get to say that Islam is this or that, and not otherwise. The rest of us have to deal with Islam is, not Islam as should be.SAM said:Here is a very simple example to demonstrate what I am saying
? It also demonstrates what I'm saying. You don't get to say that Islam is this or that, and not otherwise. The rest of us have to deal with Islam is, not Islam as should be.
You, by far.SAM said:Probably, in the same way that we have to deal with what western democracy is not what it should be.
Who has the tougher job here, you think?
And there is reality. Nice comment.The rest of us have to deal with what Islam is, not Islam as it should be.
You, by far.
Doesn't change the situation with that religion. Give it a little power, see what happens.
Every country has its own laws .So, like I said, we are stuck with western nations telling us to do as they say, not as they do. And you're not even allowed to fight back. Pretty much what you might call a dead end.
I asked him if things would be better with the Shaw and he said "Why do we need one? We just want to be a democracy." So, I suppose no, not a supporter.Not much of one, which is consistent with the Muslims you seem to know.
Is he a supporter of the Shah?
So what's wrong with doing as they say? And how does Western hypocrisy and perfidy excuse that of others?SAM said:So, like I said, we are stuck with western nations telling us to do as they say, not as they do. And you're not even allowed to fight back. Pretty much what you might call a dead end.
So what's wrong with doing as they say? And how does Western hypocrisy and perfidy excuse that of others?
Irrelevant.SAM said:Because there is a cure for ignorance, but none for indifference or bigotry.
Besides, they have no credibility to ask of others what they will not do themselves.
Irrelevant.
The question was: what's wrong with "doing as they say"?
Do you not do the right thing because the wrong person claims - however dishonestly - to do it themselves?
If a bad person tells you to behave well, are you then absolved from responsibility for behaving badly?
According to you, if I am to make sense of this analogy, I would be justified by the incident in adopting my own policy of armed aggression in my neighborhood.SAM said:If a thug holding a gun to me says I must disarm because violence is bad, should I listen? Especially when he's already been on a shooting spree in the neighborhood? And the only thing between us is my gun? What would you do?
According to you, if I am to make sense of this analogy, I would be justified by the incident in adopting my own policy of armed aggression in my neighborhood.
Ah..I heard about the "black eyed peas concert barred for Muslims" because it's being sponsored by guinness. [Malaysia]
I thought that it was a bit extreme, but then again it was a tactical mistake of black eyed peas to give a concert in a Muslim country when being sponsored by an alcohol company.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...from-Black-Eyed-Peas-concert-in-Malaysia.html
I was really wondering how they want to enforce that. It's probably at their own discretion as the following excerpt hints:
"The concert, part of celebrations of Guinness 250th birthday, asks on its website "Are you a non-Muslim aged 18 years and above?" and if the response is no, access is not allowed."
I blame the PAS for denying their fellow Muslims enjoying some music for such a petty reason such as "wrong sponsor".
The analogy changes again - closer to what you want to talk about, farther from the incident at issue. I can no longer make sense of it relative to the OP.SAM said:According to you, if I am to make sense of this analogy, I would be justified by the incident in adopting my own policy of armed aggression in my neighborhood.
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If the neighborhood consisted of thugs who went on shooting sprees, most certainly.