Are you there God? ...it's uh, Sciforums.

Wisdom_Seeker said:
You don´t find it effective, but you are trying to do the same thing; therefore it cannot be effective if not even you trust in it.
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Well I have tried mantras before, they generate energy but its not as effective from my personal experiences, you have to get the correct sounds and all this unneccessary things

Wisdom_Seeker said:
Ok, so for you, Law of Attraction do exist, and you personally practice it as you´ve claimed, but you find the term "Law of Attraction" disgusting. Oh, and New Age BS, when it is just a name for what you are doing; there is something wrong there dude.
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No, for the me the Law of Attraction DOES NOT exist...didn't you read what I wrote?

The Law of Attraction states that "like energy attracts like energy", which I found to be false while seeking the truth, though before I considered that it could be true...the reason New Ageism isn't attractive to me is simply because it's just another faith-based belief system, they don't care about the actual truth, they care about preserving their propaganda, just like atheists, Christians, etc...the truth is irrevelant to them

spidergoat said:
For VitalOne,

What if a brick suddenly turned into a flower, with all trickery accounted for, a controlled situation. This would prove naturalism is false.
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:rolleyes:

No it wouldn't, all it proves is that it's possbile for matter to be transformed...which we already know is possible :rolleyes:

I don't know how anyone could possibly think that would falsify naturalism in any degree...otherwise everything we already know to be true falsifies naturalism

ghost7584 said:
Jesus never mentioned reincarnation. Reincarnation comes from Hindu religion. Jesus speaks of heaven and hell. The bible speaks of resurection, being reunited with your body, and then you either go to the kingdom of heaven or into the lake of fire.
Believe in Jesus and repent, (follow His teachings in the KJV New Testament) and you will be happy forever in heaven. Don't believe in Jesus or don't repent of sin, and you will be tormented forever in a lake of fire as a punishment.
Eternal happiness is balanced against eternal suffering.
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Sure, he did, he says it right here:
Jesus said, "Lucky is the lion that the human will eat, so that the lion becomes human. And foul is the human that the lion will eat, and the lion still will become human."

"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" (John 8:58)

Your beliefs are not based off Jesus himself but rather the Church, the people which Jesus proclaimed were the ''generation of vipers", ofcourse I agree that repenting and having faith in Jesus is good, but Jesus NEVER says you'll eternally burn in hell, nor does he preach intolerance :rolleyes:
 
spidergoat said:
I find they are very similar. Only by giving yourself up to be unprotected and bewildered can the truth enter. Ideologies are like self-defense mechanisms. Jesus seemed to do the same thing on the cross. Instead of getting all his disciples to fight back or go into hiding, Jesus gave himself up, and thus served as an example to others of the evil of the Roman justice system (one presumes this was already obvious, but hey).
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Yes yes, very similar, although misinterpreted much. That´s why I brought up "Zen", Zen is nothing but a fusion of Buddhism and Taoism. That is what Bodhidharma was inflluenced by, Mahayana Buddhism and Taoism.
 
Wisdom_Seeker said:
Yes yes, very similar, although misinterpreted much. That´s why I brought up "Zen", Zen is nothing but a fusion of Buddhism and Taoism. That is what Bodhidharma was inflluenced by, Mahayana Buddhism and Taoism.
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yes probably

and western zen, which is sometimes ridiculed, is a fusion of western secularism and zen buddhism
 
"Spidergoat and Emmos Reloaded - The realization of the theist within"

lol Well, lets wait and see.
The movie might be canceled though, rumors are that a very important actor to the plot didn't show up yet :p

Just being humorous, no need to get all upset :)
Oh and it's Enmos ;)
 
spidergoat said:
Doesn't revelations say something about all the dead coming back to live in a paradise on Earth when it's all over?
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The way it is in the bible:
There is a resurection of the righteous Christians and they go up to meet Jesus in the air, along with the living Christians at Jesus' return. Then He comes down with an army of angels (possibly ufo aliens) they take over the planet by force at armageddon. The angels gather the sinners, people that heard of Jesus but never got saved, etc. and cast them into hell. Jesus and the saints then rule and reign with Christ on the Earth for a thousand years. Satan and the devils are bound for those thousand years and can't tempt anyone, so there is peace and prosperity for a thousand years. At the end of the thousand years Satan is let loose to deceive whoever can be deceived. Those that are deceived and turn away from God, will be destroyed. Then there is a resurection of the dead sinners and wicked people. They are reunited with their bodies, judged out of what is recorded in the books about them and then cast into the lake of fire, to be punished forever. The people that remained Christians and were not deceived at the end of the thousand years will enter into a city about 15oo miles square and high called new Jerusalem. It has streets of gold, precious stones in the walls. There will be no more pain or suffering for those saints. No more tears. Happy forever.
 
ghost7584 said:
Then there is a resurection of the dead sinners and wicked people. They are reunited with their bodies, judged out of what is recorded in the books about them and then cast into the lake of fire, to be punished forever.
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Apart from the obvious similarities between the whole statement and the "Lord of the Rings" plot; I wish to comment on this specific part because for me, it is a clear and simple explanation of reincarnation.
The "lake of fire" is nothing but our state of "constant desires" that arise in the mind during life. It is only desires that cause unconscious reincarnation over and over again; until worldly desires dissapear, in an eternal bliss.
 
Spidergoat... Spidergoat. Does whatever a Spidergoat can. Can he swing from a boat? No he can't 'cause he's a goat. Look out! Here comes the Spidergoat!
 
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