i understand you just fine, and it's beyond stupid. it's downright evil. :shrug:
Are all discussions of God speculative nonsense?
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i understand you just fine, and it's beyond stupid. it's downright evil. :shrug:
Says a child killer.
just give signal enough rope..he will hang himself..
speak for yourself signal. i love god, but i'm definitely not nice. "nice" implies insincerity. that's for people like you, until you slip and let your true colors show like you did above. oops!
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there ya go with your preconceptions again..
More like a post conception of what is truly observed.
yes, but he is acting like we are supposed to be nice, just because we call ourselves Christians..and i think you can agree that just because a person is Christian does not make them better ..
Signal might be a she.
Believers may show anger as a resort to not having anything else beyond their wishes, as I note on many forums, some of which are even worse than here. This can actually take away from any points they are trying to get across.
Greatest I am,
I doubt it.
The sun is ''unknowable'', ''unfathomable'' and ''mysterious'', yet we don't not believe it exists. Sure, there are things we know and understand about the sun, but we don't know or understand everything. In that way the sun is all of the above in its completeness. The same can be said of God.
To come to that conclusion you would have to completely KNOW God (as mentioned above), so you have just contradicted yourself.
Apart from that, what you may misunderstand, or deem contradictory, may
not apply to someone else, unless you think you know all minds.
You are claiming to know the mind of those who say they know the mind of God, yet you don't claim to be a liar. Double standards.
God may well be unknowable in the sense that God is the ocean while we are
a drop of the ocean, but we can know God through understanding ourselves. At present we try to know God by trying to analyse each and every component of the ocean while not realising that we are a main component.
That's an excellent question.
The answer is, you'll never know unless you reach that stage.
I believe that latter, but from our perspective and position, it's not easy.
Sometimes, but there most probably are moments when truth is hit upon.
We just have raise our awareness to the point where we can discriminate clearly.
jan.
I doubt it.
The sun is ''unknowable'', ''unfathomable'' and ''mysterious'', yet we don't not believe it exists. Sure, there are things we know and understand about the sun, but we don't know or understand everything. In that way the sun is all of the above in its completeness. The same can be said of God.
To come to that conclusion you would have to completely KNOW God (as mentioned above), so you have just contradicted yourself.
Apart from that, what you may misunderstand, or deem contradictory, may
not apply to someone else, unless you think you know all minds.
You are claiming to know the mind of those who say they know the mind of God, yet you don't claim to be a liar. Double standards.
God may well be unknowable in the sense that God is the ocean while we are
a drop of the ocean, but we can know God through understanding ourselves. At present we try to know God by trying to analyse each and every component of the ocean while not realising that we are a main component.
That's an excellent question.
The answer is, you'll never know unless you reach that stage.
I believe that latter, but from our perspective and position, it's not easy.
Sometimes, but there most probably are moments when truth is hit upon.
We just have raise our awareness to the point where we can discriminate clearly.
jan.
Who's responsible for tsunamis and earthquakes?
I understand that keeping a vision in your mind provides inspiration and insight. No god required.
but wait! you gotta have the right vision. lots of people don't have any vision at all, much less the right one. lots of people are staring at lies and believing they're true!
i would not blame God for them..
<edit> also you have taken a statement about humanity and transposed it to the physical world..which in my opinion is not a good thing to do when arguing God.
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Believers should not forget that God made every single thing in the universe of nature and in human nature, as well, to operate exactly how it does in every way, using His unerring and all powerful knowing. His will be done.
Greatest I am
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And how can one know when that truth is hit upon without confirmation from God himself?
Regards
DL
Greatest I am
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but wait! you gotta have the right vision. lots of people don't have any vision at all, much less the right one. lots of people are staring at lies and believing they're true!
Like what?
That animals can talk human for instance or that seven headed monsters are real or that a water walking immortal God can somehow die?
Regards
DL
Why not? He is said to have created the world. What about specific human parasites? You can't thank God for, for instance, saving some people from natural disasters and not blame him for the natural disaster in the first place. People are getting their knickers in a bunch over the cross at ground zero, and yet the people responsible were following the same God.