Accepting Defeat

S.A.M. said:
That's not what happens in life. If you lose, there are no do overs
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What did the Romans do again ? That's right, they learned from their mistakes and went on to crush Hannibal.

Edit: you are still using your awkward definition of 'being defeated'.
 
Yeah by not accepting defeat. If they had, they would be called the Carthinians who did accept defeat later at the hands of the same Romans.
 
S.A.M. said:
Yeah by not accepting defeat. If they had, they would be called the Carthinians who did accept defeat
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:bugeye:

Losing a game or battle means you are defeated at that game or battle. You can learn from your mistakes and try it again.
Your definition of 'being defeated' seems to be 'complete elimination'.
 
Life is not a game. The Romans did not accept defeat at hannibals hands then go on to play Greece for the bronze. They refused to accept that they were defeated and by their persistance, outlasted the carthinians

When the Vichy accepted defeat at hitlers hands they stopped fighting. The resistance did not and were supported by England which also did not accept defeat.if the French had all accepted defeat as well as the English, who would fight?
 
S.A.M. said:
Life is not a game. The Romans did not accept defeat at hannibals hands then go on to play Greece for the bronze. They refused to accept that they were defeated and by their persistance, outlasted the carthinians
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No, they did accept defeat, which enabled them to learn from it, and because of that they were able to crush Hannibal.
 
Read some history. Read the position of the Romans and their stance against hannibal. Their fear and their decision to keep fighting insurmountable odds. They never accepted defeat.
 
S.A.M. said:
Read some history. Read the position of the Romans and their stance against hannibal. Their fear and their decision to keep fighting insurmountable odds. They never accepted defeat.
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Sigh.. :rolleyes:

Seeing your weird definition of the word you would probably think that I admit defeat by quitting this fruitless discussion.
 
No that's your definition.

We're not playing for incentives are we?
 
S.A.M. said:
They were wiped out. Doesn't anyone here read history?
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Um, what? Rome fought a defensive war against Hannibal, and came out the victor. Given that Hannibal received very few reinforcements, the Romans were hardly fighting against 'insurmontable odds'.

It's funny that you should mention the Punic Wars, though. Because Carthage did attempt to fight the Numidians and Romans, and was burnt to the ground as a result. They didn't accept defeat.
 
copernicus66 said:
Um, what? Rome fought a defensive war against Hannibal, and came out the victor. Given that Hannibal received very few reinforcements, the Romans were hardly fighting against 'insurmontable odds'.
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Given that they came out the victor, on its own, pretty much proves that they weren't facing insurmountable odds.
 
copernicus66 said:
Um, what? Rome fought a defensive war against Hannibal, and came out the victor. Given that Hannibal received very few reinforcements, the Romans were hardly fighting against 'insurmontable odds'.

It's funny that you should mention the Punic Wars, though. Because Carthage did attempt to fight the Numidians and Romans, and was burnt to the ground as a result. They didn't accept defeat.
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After they gave up their arms and noble children. They'd been paying a tithe for years. The defeat happened several years before Carthage was burned to the ground, after the carthinians refused to burn it themselves. They lost that fight before it began.
 
Yeah. They never should have. They had more riches more arms a much more advanced society. It was foolish of them to lay down their arms and give their children and weapons to the Romans. Due to these actions they lost everything.
 
S.A.M. said:
Yeah. They never should have. They had more riches more arms a much more advanced society. It was foolish of them to lay down their arms and give their children and weapons to the Romans. Due to these actions they lost everything.
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Hmm I must have misunderstood then. I thought you meant that they went into battle.. :shrug:
 
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