Aboriginal child abuse and the NT Intervention

Steal what wages? Which wages are being stolen?

From about 1890 to 1985, state and federal governments in Australia did not pay the wages and entitlements of the Aboriginal people who were under their control. During this period, most Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people were controlled by various ‘Protection’ Acts. These gave the governments almost unlimited rights to control their lives.

Many governments organised work contracts, at significantly lower wages, for Aboriginal people. Apart from a very small amount of ‘pocket money’ which was often not paid, the wages were sent to the relevant Department, such as the Qld Department of Native Affairs, who managed the money ‘for the benefit of the wage earners’.

Research in government archives in Queensland and then in NSW and other states, shows that the governments generally did not manage the money justly and that fraud, mismanagement, and application of the accumulated money for the benefit of government’s political interest were the norm.

These missing monies, which includes wages and state and commonwealth entitlements such as maternity benefits, invalid and widows’ are generally known as "stolen wages".​
no comprende?
lets try this...
IMAGINE that the government instructs your employer to withhold four-fifths of your pay, over and above the normal tax deducted, ordering the money be forwarded to a government-administered account.

You query this but are told what the government is doing is lawful and that your money is to be spent in ways that will further your welfare.

Where you live, schools are run down and the public health and housing services are low-grade and deteriorating.

But despite all the money you and others are handing over, no improvements are made to your services and infrastructure.

It transpires the money is being spent on projects, some public infrastructure, some not, thousands of kilometres away.

Years pass before the government suddenly stops taking your money. It says it got things wrong. It says sorry.

However, it refuses to pay back to you what was taken or even give you back your portion of what's left in the so-called welfare fund.

Instead today's Government offers you a tiny amount in "reparation" and announces the leftover money is to go into an education scholarship fund that, if your child is one of the lucky few, may assist you to send your child hundreds of kilometres away to school.

You try to take legal action to recover your money, but the Government says, whoops, its records are incomplete, missing, washed away in floods, burned or eaten by the cat and so you can't prove that it really did take your money, or as much as you say it took. So, how would you feel if all this happened to you? It's a reasonable question, because this is no hypothetical.

It happened to indigenous people in this state and it's an ongoing scandal​
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there
happy?
now
a flowchart

/snicker

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thats some sciency shit right there
cause and effect and whatnot
lets ignore

throwing money at the problem is not enough.

the aboriginal problem?
sure you threw money but it always missed the mark and ended up in whitey's pocket

A federal government program aimed at assisting indigenous Australians to own their own home used up nearly $10 million in administration to provide $2.7 million for just 15 loans.

As well, not one of the 45 homes constructed at a cost of $25.5 million for the program in the Northern Territory has been sold to the indigenous community.​
Stolen Wages

$10m admin cost to give $2.7m home loans, audit reveals

State Government's dodgy deal

Stolen wages timeline
 
You see, Bells? This is why you're wasting your time....... they still keep blathering on as if you hadn't spoken at all......These people are not interested in a discussion. ....Understanding, strictly speaking, is not the agenda here.

pardon
allow me to proffer a hand in friendship and commiserate..
the anglo's are the true victims in all of this

Nobody knows de trouble I've seen,
nobody knows but Jesus,
Nobody knows de trouble I've seen,
Glory hallelujah !

Sometimes I'm up sometimes I'm down.
Oh yes, Lord !
Sometimes I'm almos' to de groun'; Oh yes, Lord !

Oh nobody knows de trouble I've seen,
Nobody knows but Jesus,
Nobody knows de troule I've seen,
Glory hallelujah !

If you get there before I do,
Oh yes, Lord !
Tell allamy friends I'm coming too,
Oh yes, Lord !

Nobody knows de trouble I've seen,
nobody knows but Jesus,
Nobody knows de trouble I've seen,
Glory hallelujah !
 
quadraphonics said:
Of course - that's exactly the contention. Well, not exactly: it's more than a lack of empathy. It's a failure to even concieve of the natives as people to begin with, rather than a policy problem that needs solving. They're just statistics about school attendance, alcoholism, poverty, and whatever lurid sex crimes will enrage the population into writing blank checks for your military-industrial complex to run wild on the natives.

Is it your contention that Australia's "military-industrial complex" is "running wild" on the "natives"?

Is it your contention that Australians, in general, fail to conceive of "the natives" as people?

Are you buying into Gustav's hysterics on this?

It's at least change in the right direction (however incomplete), unlike the neo-colonialist approach pursued Down Under.

Oh, do tell us all about the Australian "neo-colonialist approach", quadraphonics. You sound like the real expert on all things Australian.

Contrast that with the Aussie approach of making townships in government property and enforcing measures on pornography and alcohol, literally reducing entire communities into wards of the state. As if they were orphaned infants, or something.

As Bells asked Gustav, what would you propose, having read the report discussed earlier, quadraphonics? What's your solution? Build lots of casinos?

It's not up to you to make their problems go away, is the point. It's up to you to respect them, and help empower them to figure out their own way forward.

Which would explain why the government is always consulting with Aboriginal community leaders. After all, it's their government, too.

Oh no, wait, I forgot. It's the Australian "military-industrial complex" that holds the real power, apparently.

This process where their fitness for self-determination is reduced into scare statistics to be judged by distant, unaccountable city-dwellers - who then deploy political and military resources to enforce their putatively superior standards - has a name. It's "colonialism."

I think you should read the first half of this thread and inform yourself just a little, so you don't keep going off half cocked as usual.

My contention is that the government is doing wrong, because the nation is racist. I'm all for the government empowering the natives. It's doing the opposite, and taking a great many fools along for the ride with all of the associated PC racism.

Well, you're the expert, as always.

All Australian are racist. The Australian government is racist.

And quadraphonics, who has probably not come within 1000 miles of Australia in his life, is equipped to judge all of this, knowing nothing of Australia's cultural or historical background, or present conditions in the country. All that really matters here, though, is quadraphonics' high horse.
 
You see, Bells? This is why you're wasting your time.
As many times as has been pointed out that the Australian version of "sending in the military" is somewhat different to how they understand it, they still keep blathering on as if you hadn't spoken at all.

These people are not interested in a discussion.

Several other glaring errors in the above several posts I'm not even going to bother with.
Understanding, strictly speaking, is not the agenda here.
I have to admit, I've given up. I went and threw up instead.:D

We should remember however, that to Americans, who are so obsessed with war and invading other countries, sending in the military must only mean guns blazing and tanks rolling in with air support.. Logistical use of the military in far outback reaches of the country, a lot of which cannot be accessed by road in a suitable amount of time, does not quite compute. For them, military means 'shock and awe'.. So we should excuse and forgive them. It's not really their fault they're warmongers.;)

I guess when the issue of Aboriginal poverty comes up again, we'll just tell them to build casino's and point out at how well the Native Americans are doing.. Well only the minority of them are doing well.. We'll just make sure that no one ever hears of how Native American issues and conditions are worse than Aboriginal ones.. Nooo.. Casino's are the perfect solution - take money from people who can least afford it.. do that some more.. rinse and repeat. Just ermm.. Never ever mention Pine Ridge..

This gambling addiction is already contributing to many new social problems in Indian country. Adults are spending their per capita payments, and their welfare and paychecks at the gaming tables. They are losing the money they should have used to buy school clothes for their children, to pay their rent or mortgage or to buy food to put on their tables. They are abandoning their children to babysitters or worse, leaving them at home alone, while they feed their gambling addiction at their reservation casinos."

(Source)

Isn't self determination grand?
 
How do you fix it?



Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination
Seventy-seventh session
2 –27 August 2010

10. The Committee is concerned by the absence of any entrenched protection against racial discrimination in the federal Constitution and that sections 25 and 51 (xxvi) of the Constitution in themselves raise issues of racial discrimination. It notes with interest the recommendations from the National Human Rights Consultation Report and findings of a significant degree of community support for a federal Human Rights Act to thoroughly address the gaps in the existing model of human rights protection. The Committee also notes information provided on the State party’s plans to review all federal anti-discrimination laws, with the intention of their harmonization under the Human Rights Framework. (arts. 1 and 2)

The Committee urges the State party to ensure that the review of all federal anti-discrimination laws considers the gaps in legal and constitutional protections against discrimination and that consequent harmonization does not weaken the Racial Discrimination Act. It recommends that the State party take measures to ensure that the Racial Discrimination Act prevails over all other legislation which may be discriminatory on the grounds set out in the Convention. The Committee also recommends that the State party draft and adopt comprehensive legislation providing entrenched protection against racial discrimination.

11. While taking account of the State party’s commitment to the Australian Human Rights Commission (AHRC), the Committee regrets the absence of a full-time Race Discrimination Commissioner since 1999 and notes with concern the challenges the Human Rights Commission faces regarding limited powers, capacity, and funding (art. 2).

The Committee urges the State party to support the proper performance of the AHRC, through adequate financing and staffing, including through the appointment of a full-time Race Discrimination Commissioner. It also recommends that the State party consider expanding the powers, functions and funding of the AHRC.

13. The Committee notes with concern the absence of a legal framework regulating the obligation of Australian corporations at home and overseas whose activities, notably in the extractive sector, when carried out on the traditional territories of Indigenous peoples, have had a negative impact on Indigenous peoples’ rights to land, health, living environment and livelihoods (arts. 2, 4, 5).

In light of the Committee’s general recommendation 23 (1997) on the rights of indigenous peoples, the Committee encourages the State party to take appropriate legislative or administrative measures to prevent acts of Australian corporations which negatively impact on the enjoyment of rights of indigenous peoples domestically and overseas and to regulate the extra-territorial activities of Australian corporations abroad. The Committee also encourages the State party to fulfil its commitments under the different international initiatives it supports to advance responsible corporate citizenship.

15. The Committee notes with appreciation the acknowledgement by the State party that Aboriginal and Torres Straits Islanders occupy a special place in its society as the first peoples of Australia and also welcomes the establishment of the National Congress of Australia’s First Peoples but is concerned this is only an advisory body representing member organizations and individuals and may not be fully representative of Australia’s First Peoples. The Committee regrets the limited progress towards Constitutional acknowledgement of Australia’s Indigenous peoples, and slow implementation of the principle of Indigenous peoples' exercising meaningful control over their affairs (arts. 1, 2, 5, 6).

Drawing the attention of the State party to the Committee’s general recommendation 23 (1997) on the rights of indigenous peoples, the Committee reiterates its recommendation that the State party increase efforts to ensure a meaningful reconciliation with Indigenous peoples and that any measures to amend the Australian Constitution include the recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders as First Nations Peoples. In this regard, the Committee recommends that the State party consider the negotiation of a treaty agreement to build a constructive and sustained relationship with Indigenous peoples. The Committee also recommends that the State party provide the National Congress of Australia’s First Peoples with the adequate resources to become fully operational by January 2011 and support its development.

16. The Committee expresses its concern that the package of legislation under the Northern Territory Emergency Response (NTER) continues to discriminate on the basis of race as well as the use of so called “special measures” by the State party. The Committee regrets the discriminatory impact this intervention has had on affected communities including restrictions on Aboriginal rights to land, property, social security, adequate standards of living, cultural development, work, and remedies (arts. 1, 2, and 5).

The Committee takes notes the State party will complete the reinstatement of the Racial Discrimination Act in December 2010, but is concerned by the continuing difficulties in using the Act to challenge and provide remedies for racially discriminatory NTER measures. It also urges the State party to guarantee that all special measures in Australian law, in particular those regarding the NTER, are in accordance with the Committee’s general recommendation No. 32 on Special Measures (2009). It encourages the State party to strengthen its efforts to implement the NTER Review Board recommendations, namely that: it continue to address the unacceptably high level of disadvantage and social dislocation being experienced by Aboriginal Australians living in remote communities throughout the Northern Territory; that it reset the relationship with Aboriginal people based on genuine consultation, engagement and partnership; and that Government actions affecting the Aboriginal communities respect Australia's human rights obligations and conform with the Racial Discrimination Act.

17. The Committee reiterates its concern about the State party’s reservations to article 4 (a) of the Convention. It notes that acts of racial hatred are not criminalized throughout the State party, pursuant to article 4 of the Convention, and also that the Northern Territory still has not enacted legislation prohibiting incitement to racial hatred (art. 4).

In light of the Committee’s general recommendations No. 7 (1985) and No. 15 (1993), according to which article 4 is of mandatory nature, the Committee recommends the State party to remedy the absence of legislation to give full effect to the provisions against racial discrimination under article 4 and withdraw its reservation to article 4 (a) relating to criminalizing the dissemination of racist ideas, incitement to racial hatred or discrimination, and the provision of any assistance to racist activities. The Committee reiterates its request for information on complaints, prosecutions and sentences regarding acts of racial hatred or incitement to racial hatred in States and Territories with legislation specifying such offenses.

18. Reiterating in full its concern about the Native Title Act 1993 and its amendments, the Committee regrets the persisting high standards of proof required for recognition of the relationship between Indigenous peoples and their traditional lands, and the fact that in spite of large investment of time and resources by Indigenous peoples, many are unable to obtain recognition of their relationship to land (art. 5).

The Committee urges the State party to provide more information on this issue, and take the necessary measures to review the requirement of such a high standard of proof. The Committee is interested in receiving data on the extent to which the legislative reforms to the Native Title Act in 2009 will achieve “better native title claim settlements in a timely manner”. It also recommends that the State party enhance adequate mechanisms for effective consultation with Indigenous peoples around all policies affecting their lives and resources.

19. While welcoming recent initiatives taken by the State party in order to increase access to justice by Indigenous Australians, the Committee is concerned that the recent funding increase for Aboriginal legal aid may be inadequate to address the continued limited access by Indigenous peoples to legal specialist and interpretation services in a sustainable manner (art. 5, 6).

The Committee encourages the State party to increase funding for Aboriginal legal aid in real terms, as a reflection of its recognition of the essential role that professional and culturally appropriate Indigenous legal and interpretive services play within the criminal justice system. Moreover, it recommends that the State party strengthen training for law enforcement personnel and the legal profession in this regard.

20. While welcoming the endorsement of National Indigenous Law and Justice Framework by all Australian Governments, the Committee reiterates its concern about the disproportionate incarceration rates and the persisting problems leading to deaths in custody of a considerable number of Indigenous Australians over the years. The Committee expresses concern in particular about the growing imprisonment rates of Indigenous women as well as the substandard conditions in many prisons (art. 5, 6).

Taking into account the Committee’s general recommendation 31 (2006) on the prevention of racial discrimination in the administration and functioning of the criminal justice system, the Committee recommends that the State party dedicate sufficient resources to address the social and economic factors underpinning Indigenous contact with the criminal justice system. It encourages the State party to adopt a justice reinvestment strategy, continuing and increasing the use of Indigenous courts and conciliation mechanisms, diversionary and prevention programs and restorative justice strategies. and that, in consultation with Indigenous communities, it take immediate steps to review the recommendations of the Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody, identifying those which remain relevant with a view to their implementation. The Committee also recommends that the State party implement the measures outlined in the National Indigenous Law and Justice Framework. The Committee encourages the State party to ensure the provision of adequate health care to prisoners.
Advance Unedited Version - 27 August 2010 - Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination
 


Kevin Spratt is an Aboriginal Australian. English is his second language.

During the ordeal Mr Spratt can be heard talking in native tongue and praying to God.

Mr Spratt was diagnosed as suffering from fractures of the ribs, collapsed lung, his right shoulder was dislocated with a comminuted fracture of the humerus. He also had superficial cuts and abrasions including puncture wounds consistant with the taser probes being used."

Stray dogs are treated better. This is inhumane.
 
as horrific as that was, not all cops are bad as that lot. for instance, chappy kicks back with some officers before getting hauled off for public intoxication


hahahaha
 
What's your solution?

The contention, again, is that any solution must necessarily be theirs, to start with. The whole premise that "they" are a problem for "us" to solve is the root of the issue.

Build lots of casinos?

No - respect their right to build whatever casinos they may wish (or, if Australian natives lack such sovereignty, such should be enshrined). Important difference.

Oh no, wait, I forgot. It's the Australian "military-industrial complex" that holds the real power, apparently.

Right. Such being typical of developed countries - not sure why you think phrasing this in a sarcastic tone will impress.

You're an outgrowth of one of the most rapacious military-industrial complexes in history - one that spent centuries using slave labor to colonize huge, far-flung tracts of land and systematically violating the self-determination of those outside the core. Your particular colony was created exactly in reaction to the revolutions this oppression triggered elsewhere, the better to retrench such colonialism in the face of growing and empowered opposition.

So the implication that the salience of such a power structure in Australia is even debatable (let alone, preposterous) doesn't fool me. But then, it's only really designed to fool you. Does it?

All Australian are racist.

What I said was that the Australian nation is racist. Substitute "Australian society" or whatever, if you like, but no such assertion about literally "all Australians" has been offered.

How is it that you and Bells are so easily reduced to petty antics like this? When will you learn not to feed trolls?

The Australian government is racist.

Right. Notice how said government has poked holes in racial non-discrimination laws in order to wage this colonialist onslaught.
 
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We should remember however, that to Americans, who are so obsessed with war and invading other countries, sending in the military must only mean guns blazing and tanks rolling in with air support.. Logistical use of the military in far outback reaches of the country, a lot of which cannot be accessed by road in a suitable amount of time, does not quite compute. For them, military means 'shock and awe'..

No, we've just spent the past decade employing the military to do "nation building" and "civil society development" and "infrastructure improvement" and "peacekeeping" and other such supposedly-well-intentioned civil interventions. And seen exactly the perverse effects of empowering a military industrial complex - which is fundamentally concerned with power, politics, national allegiance and profit - in such areas.

Military logistics are great when it comes to stuff like airlifting in food and medical supplies for immediate, short-term disaster relief. But that's about the limit of their humanitarian utility. For things like developing civil society and addressing social problems, military involvement is counterproductive and corrupts the entire undertaking. It becomes an excuse for the military, connected corporations, and politicians to scratch one another's backs at the public expense and the cost of ultimately worsening the problems it's putatively deployed to address.

This whole delusion that the Aussie military industrial complex is somehow immune to such systemic pressures is just another bit of PC chauvinism. Much like the apology for the Stolen Generation - you create this delusion that you're on the Good Side, and have a Good Military, and so it's your Burden to Save the Poor Benighted Natives.

I keep calling that neo-colonialism, but now I'm starting to think there isn't anything particularly "neo-" about it.

Isn't self determination grand?

Yes, it is. And part of self-determination is the ability to fail on one's own, as well as succeed. Without the ability to fail, the ability to succeed is meaningless - and the requisite determination undermined anyway.

It's not for you to police the situation of the natives. They are not your children. If you want to atone for your nation's role in screwing up their situation, the way to do that is by first stopping the harmful colonialism. After that, maybe you can figure out some further ways to make it up to them, while still respecting their self-determination.

What won't work is this approach of addressing past colonialism with even more colonialism - it's not going to be "benign" this time, no matter what lies you tell yourself about your benevolence. The core problem is the patronizing, imperialist conception of the natives: it really does not matter what your intentions are, so long as that basic, systemic factor remains. Heck, most all of those previous colonialists have also told themselves that what they were doing was for the natives' own good. Such a self-conception is essential to colonialism - you don't mobilize and sustain mass political support by encouraging people to see themselves as greedy, racist usurpers.

All of which, again, was covered pretty convincingly by Conrad, Kipling, etc. a long time ago.
 
And that, to sum up, is pretty much your position here, isn't it Quad.

Book knowledge. Boys read Conrad and Kipling, y'all, thinks he knows.
Same with Gustav... hours, presumably, spent poring through the net for references and quotes, pics designed to shock.

But neither of them has ever been here.
Don't matter none. Dem white folks, all same.
 
yeah
we are a caring empathic bunch with oodles of compassion unlike you racists. when you see a petrol sniffing drunk abo...well you see a petrol sniffing drunk abo. you get the guy to sing "rivers of babylon", arrest, lock up and then beat to death

when we hear of this petrol sniffing drunk abo, we see the product of centuries of genocide, oppression and slavery.
we understand how he got to where he is now

because we read, we investigate, we research, we reason
ja
thats us

the visceral reactions, the hysterics, the emoting?
that's just you animals.
y'know, genocidal racists

y'all beg for solutions?
well the first step is an acknowledgment

"i am a genocidal racist"
say it!
 
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This gambling addiction is already contributing to many new social problems in Indian country. Adults are spending their per capita payments, and their welfare and paychecks at the gaming tables. They are losing the money they should have used to buy school clothes for their children, to pay their rent or mortgage or to buy food to put on their tables. They are abandoning their children to babysitters or worse, leaving them at home alone, while they feed their gambling addiction at their reservation casinos."

(Source)

Isn't self determination grand?

and this is just it, isnt it bells. you would run in with guns blazing to rescue these people from themselves. never mind that compulsive gambling is statistically insignificant...

A study by the United Kingdom Gambling Commission, the "British Gambling Prevalence Survey 2007", found that approximately 0.6% of the adult population had problem gambling issues, the same percentage as in 1999. (wiki)


...and has not been proven to be an exception in the native american community

from your quote...

sdgambling.jpg


dear bells
please intervene in the state of south dakota. steal their children, appropriate their land. manage their income. lock em up and beat them to death
 
And that, to sum up, is pretty much your position here, isn't it Quad.

What is? Those posts explicitly stating my position? What else would they be?

But neither of them has ever been here.
Don't matter none. Dem white folks, all same.

Actually, yeah. I've mentioned several times that I can easily recognize this stuff because it's all around me at home as well. Not to mention the various historical, cultural and political similarities and links between our respective nation-states.

And which supposition has been repeatedly validated by others here, in asserting that relations between the US and Native Americans are a comparable question, note.
 
So the implication that the salience of such a power structure in Australia is even debatable (let alone, preposterous) doesn't fool me. But then, it's only really designed to fool you. Does it?

sure
these aussies are just unwitting govt shills. or morons. or something far more insidious...

In general, yes, I do support peacekeeping missions. For another example, Australia was instrumental in leading an international peacekeeping operation in East Timor following its separation from Indonesia. I am proud that Australia was involved in that.


yeah. well done james. that was a spectacular stunt executed with breathtaking hypocrisy and dazzling chutzpah

Official documents released by the Australian government last week confirm that the Whitlam Labor government actively encouraged the Suharto regime in Indonesia to invade East Timor in 1975, a policy that led to the deaths of an estimated 200,000 Timorese people in the following years.

The previously secret files, released from the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade archives, also show that the official transcript of a meeting between President Suharto and Prime Minister Gough Whitlam in 1975 was “sanitised” as part of a cover-up to prevent the Australian public from knowing of Canberra's support for the invasion.

The 484 cables and reports from 1974-76 are published in a book, Australia and the Indonesian Incorporation of Portuguese East Timor, released by Foreign Minister Alexander Downer at parliament house on September 12.​
Documents reveal that Australia urged Indonesia to invade East Timor in 1975

A coronial inquest, due to resume in Sydney next month, has produced telling new evidence of a cover-up, orchestrated by every Australian government since 1975, of the facts surrounding the execution of five Australian-based newsmen in the lead-up to the Indonesian invasion of East Timor.

The evidence confirms that Australian Prime Minister Gough Whitlam knew within hours that the journalists had been murdered at Balibo, East Timor, on October 16, 1975 by the Indonesian military regime. But, because of its support for the impending invasion, Whitlam’s Labour government instigated a whitewash.

Successive governments organised inquiries that suppressed the truth. Five closed-door investigations—including two by former National Crime Authority head Tom Sherman in 1995 and 1999, and one by Bill Blick, inspector-general of intelligence and security, in 2001-02—each suggested that the newsmen died inadvertently in crossfire between Indonesian troops and Fretilin separatist fighters.​
Australian governments covered up 1975 execution of “Balibo Five” newsmen

An impasse in negotiations between Australia and the UN over the future of the immense oil and natural gas deposits beneath the Timor Sea has thrown a new spotlight on Australia's claim to have sent troops to East Timor last year for humanitarian reasons.

In three days of formal talks in the East Timor capital of Dili this month, the Australian government refused to address a call by the United Nations Transitional Authority in East Timor (UNTAET) for the realignment of the undersea boundary between Australia and Timor.

According to the current border—fixed by the 1989 Timor Gap Treaty between Australia and Indonesia—Australia controls the overwhelming portion of the oil and gas reserves. Under that treaty, never recognised in international law, the Suharto regime handed Canberra a generous slice of the offshore exploration fields in return for Australia's support for, and formal recognition of, the 1975-76 Indonesian annexation of East Timor.​
Timor Gap dispute highlights motives behind Australian intervention

East Timor and Australia's oily politics
 
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Ancient history, Gustav. We're in the 21st century now. Get with the programme.
 
Ancient history, Gustav. We're in the 21st century now. Get with the programme.

ahh
perfect
this is the real problem. the blithe dismissal and the callous disregard.
furthermore, there is no statute of limitations on hypocrisy and misconduct

Stanner described this silence as 'a cult of forgetfulness' or 'disremembering' that has been 'practised on a national scale'. Rejecting the possibility that 'inattention on such a scale [could] be explained by absentmindedness', he claimed that it was 'a structural matter, a view from a window which has been carefully placed to exclude a whole quadrant of the landscape'. And, as well as there being a silence, there had been a silencing: 'the great Australian silence', Stanner argued, 'reigns [over] the other side of a story', an Aboriginal history, the telling of which, he recognised, 'would have to be a world...away from the conventional histories of the coming and development of British civilisation'. As such, he chastised historians for 'having given the Aborigines no place in our past except that of "a melancholy footnote"'.​
The Past as Future

The First Australians
 
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....furthermore, there is no statute of limitations on hypocrisy and misconduct.

Oh, excellent. So you can secure me that little plot on Somerset then, Gustav?
You really have no idea how stupid you're being, do you?
 
Don't lie, Gustav. You care about your opinion, perhaps, but not about the aboriginals. You've never even seen one in a city environment, let alone those in the outback.

Your little presentations here have been like watching the Bush administration at work. Which is the point, really, isn't it. At the bottom of things, you and your ilk are no different to anyone else.

This is not a black thing, or a white thing. It's simply human. Your attitude here clearly demonstrates that at the end of the day, you don't act in a terribly different fashion to those you despise. You remonstrate, have an opinion, and are quite prepared to go to war (in a limited sense, in this case) to impose your views upon everyone else, after presenting the situation in a fashion that doesn't coincide with reality - in order to justify your own actions.

Your entire position seems to indicate that humans are not responsible for their own actions. Behaviour given licence and excuse through sympathy will only perpetuate itself.
You and your kind are not the solution.
 
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