Because The Man is always keepin' them down, hating them, oppressing them, etc. much more than other cultures and peoples within the united states.Baron Max said:Why can't American blacks do as well as those others?
Hapsburg said:Because The Man is always keepin' them down, hating them, oppressing them, etc. much more than other cultures and peoples within the united states.
Blacks don't want ANYTHING from your kind...they want to be left alone by your kind....something you won't do, shall I say. Black people have their own way of rearing their children....their own way of being neighborly...their own way of working....their own political thought process...their own way to educate themselves.....Africa isn't an example of blacks in America...the only thing left in the gene pool is some of its color...we've been watered down way too much. Even Africa owes some of its treachery to your kind.QUOTE by Baron Max
So ...which is it ....blacks don't want anything or blacks do want something f
rom whites, but whites don't want to GIVE it to blacks? And if the second, why should whites GIVE blacks any-fuckin'-thing??
Have made what exactly? Where are the Indians at? How many are left? Where are the world leaders at. What percentage of each of these named races have made "IT" as you say?by Baron Max
Let's see now ...the Chinese made it; the Vietnamese made it; the Indians made it; the Pakistanis made it; the Native Americans made it; even some of the Arabs/Muslims have made it
You call being slaves a head start? Blacks have not had any kind of head start! Black people have consistantly been tripped....at the start of the race, towards the middle and now at the end of the race.Constantly pushed down!by Baron Max
yet the blacks, who've had some 50 years head start can't make it? Why? All those others have been discriminated against, hated, etc. Why can't American blacks do as well as those others?
Life was given to everyone, breath was given to everyone, land was given to everyone, the right to be free was given to everyone. It was taken away by barbarons like you!by Baron Max
nothing is given to anyone!
Yes, I do know it.....that's what I've been telling you the whole time.by Baron Max
Equal rights? Equal education? Shit ...ain't nothin' fuckin' equal and you know it!!
Majority rules Baron, you know that! Blacks are not the majority in this nation and since you guys don't seem to care enough about equal rights then we will continue to have this inequality and injustice for many years to come.by Baron Max
If you want it, go get it ...don't wait for someone to give it to you or you'll never, ever have anything.
Notice how you still view them first as black though? Not professional businessmen.by Baron Max
I saw some black newsmen on the news tonight ...they were good, they were professional, they spoke English perfectly, they dressed like professional newsmen and they knew what the hell they were talking about. How did they get that?
Most black people don't feel that they should have to bend over for white people and take it up the ass just so that you can better understand them. Most black people have their own way of communicating, rearing children, educating themselves and their children, working....but because it doesn't work your way then blacks have to be 12 times smarter than you just to get an average job. :bugeye:by Baron Max
my guess is that those blacks didn't wait for ti to be handed to them! (But most blacks call those people "Uncle Toms", don't they????)
I don't blame you Baron, I'm still having fun.Baron Max said:I'm so tired of responding to this thread. Thank you all for your posts ...it's been educational and fun, but now the fun is all gone for me.
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The dogma has logical consequences that are profoundly important. If blacks, for example, are equal to whites in every way, what accounts for their poverty, criminality, and dissipation? Since any theory of racial differences has been outlawed, the only possible explanation for black failure is white racism. And since blacks are markedly poor, crime-prone, and dissipated, America must be racked with pervasive racism. Nothing else could be keeping them in such an abject state.spidergoat said:Systematic oppression of the poor is the fault of the majority in America. It's just that we care less about the black poor than the white poor. Particular manifestations of this such as taking drugs or doing crime is just a symptom of a greater problem.
What?spidergoat said:Individuals make all sorts of mistakes. I have trouble making broad generalizations about our society in terms of white and black, the real situation is more complex than that, and these aren't the only two ethnic groups.
andspidergoat said:It's just that we care less about the black poor than the white poor.
You won't answer the question:spidergoat said:Racism separated society into white and black, the established whites holding on to control of the best jobs and housing. This inequality is then seen as a deficiency on the part of blacks, thus justifying more racism.
There is another factor to take into account, and that is black reaction to white racism, influencing greater separation, thus greater inequality. It is important to note that because of racism, the success of a white person isn't only built on their ability, but also upon the previous success of white people.
Spidey, do you remember writing this?spidergoat said:I don't think you could make any such generalizations. There are no (modern) actions attributable to either blacks or whites as a group. When there was a more distinct separation, with whites the sole ethnic group in control, it was different.
Ya, thats not to general is it?spidergoat said:It's the violent nature of white people that led them to oppress blacks.
Not really. The only thing could be ethnic strife in Africa, that's been going on for milennia, but the modern problem of it is mostly due to European colonialism and Postcolonialism, when the fucked around with the natural borders of the African peoples, creating problems that led to the Congo Crisis, Apartheid, numerous civil wars in nearly every african country, and lets not forget the war in Uganda, the Rwandan Genocide, and the First and second Congo Wars which have cost some 10 million lives. All because of white Eurpean leader's shortsightedness and overzealous greed.J.B said:Is there one thing in this world that blacks are doing wrong that is not somehow the fault of whitey?
They could be more politically involved... like MLK and the black leaders who...were....assassinated.J.B said:Is their one thing in this world that blacks are doing wrong that is not somehow the fault of whitey?
I don't really think white people are more violent than any other human, I was just countering your extreme view to illustrate a point.“ Originally Posted by spidergoat
It's the violent nature of white people that led them to oppress blacks. ”
Ya, thats not to general is it?
Wow, whites have the power to control blacks lives so easly, whites can even make blacks kill each other.Hapsburg said:Not really. The only thing could be ethnic strife in Africa, that's been going on for milennia, but the modern problem of it is mostly due to European colonialism and Postcolonialism, when the fucked around with the natural borders of the African peoples, creating problems that led to the Congo Crisis, Apartheid, numerous civil wars in nearly every african country, and lets not forget the war in Uganda, the Rwandan Genocide, and the First and second Congo Wars which have cost some 10 million lives. All because of white Eurpean leader's shortsightedness and overzealous greed.