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Did you pass the 8th grade? My baby sister can parse a sentence better than this....what are you even trying to say?

Israel is what it is do to american aid. and nothing is wrong with the sentence though I can understand it easier to attack spelling than deal with the evils you support
 
Israel is what it is do to american aid. and nothing is wrong with the sentence though I can understand it easier to attack spelling than deal with the evils you support

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Israel is what it is due to American aid. Nothing is wrong with the sentence, though, I can understand why it is easier to attack spelling rather than deal with the evil which you support.

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Israel is where it is...because it has intelligent economic policies. The US sends billions in AID to Egypt, and hundreds of millions to other countries as well. In most other cases the aid as % of GDP has always been higher than US-->Israel aid since 1967. So what's your point? Do you have one?
 
Israel is living on US welfare; would not be a belligerent nuclear power without their child support notes from Official USGovt keepers of the People's money and secrets.
 
Israel is living on US welfare; would not be a belligerent nuclear power without their child support notes from Official USGovt keepers of the People's money and secrets.

Israel spends about 15 billion on its military every year, US Military aid to Israel is about 2.5 billion. That's about 16%, if you consider that Israel gives 1 billion in aid to Gaza yearly... it's about 10% of total actualized military expenditures.

Why do Americans think they fund everything with their little bit of aid? As if the rest of the world is without the capability to maintain themselves. If you consider that their total AID to Israel is less than 2% of GDP...the US is not as big to Israel as they are to numerous other countries.

Why will you not read and address these things? Are you unable? You've instead opted to reiterate your previous statement.
 
"Why do Americans think they fund everything with their little bit of aid?"

Because Israel was carved out and has been maintained with money and weapons made in the USA.

Jewish Voice for Peace said:
U.S. military aid to Israel has a dramatic effect on Israel's policies towards the Palestinians. It has increasingly been used not to pay for defense but to finance the Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands. It keeps Israel from facing the difficult but necessary challenges of building a more democratic society, and encourages solving deep-rooted problems by military rather than peaceful and more effective means.

The U.S. funding that pays for the guns and ammunition, F-16 bombers, and Apache helicopters that are used to carry out Israel's occupation of Palestinian land and people serves neither Israelis, Palestinians, nor Americans.

In short, Israel cannot build a society based on the principles of democracy, human rights, and compliance with international law while brutally occupying another people and their land. The United States is currently paying for that occupation with its annual aid. That's why Jewish Voice for Peace urges the U.S. government to suspend military aid to Israel until Israel ends its 37-year occupation of the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, and East Jerusalem.

Congress Watch said:
Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. aid since World War II (not counting the huge sums being spent in Iraq). The $3 billion or so per year that Israel receives from the U.S. amounts to about $500 per Israeli. Most of this money is earmarked in the annual Foreign Operations (foreign aid) appropriations bills, with the three major items being military grants (Foreign Military Financing, or FMF), economic grants (Economic Support Funds, or ESF), and “migration and refugee assistance.” (Refugee assistance originally was intended to help Israel absorb Jewish refugees from the Soviet Union, but this was expanded in 1985 to include all refugees resettling in Israel. In fact, Israel doesn’t differentiate between refugees and other immigrants, so this money is used for all immigrants to Israel.)

Not earmarked but also included in congresssional appropriations bills is Israel’s portion of grants for American Schools and Hospitals Abroad (ASHA) and monies buried in the appropriations for other departments or agencies. These are mostly for so-called “U.S.-Israeli cooperative programs” in defense, agriculture, science, and hi-tech industries.

Before 1998, Israel received annually $1.8 billion in military grants and $1.2 billion in economic grants. Then, beginning in FY ‘99, the two countries agreed to reduce economic grants to Israel by $120 million and increase military grants by $60 million annually over 10 years. FY ’08 is the last year of that agreement, with military grants reaching $2.4 billion (reduced by an across-the-board rescission), and zero economic grants. Then, in August 2007, U.S. and Israeli officials signed a memorandum of understanding for a new 10-year, $30 billion aid package whereby FMF will gradually increase, beginning with $2.55 billion in FY ’09, and average $3 billion per year over the 10-year period.
 
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No. not for Gaza rockets. CIWS is a gun, firing steel bullets, NOT $100,000 rockets and all it cost is the transportation from warehouse to Sderot.

Have you never read: http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1124159&postcount=115

I would hope you do as at times you are quite logical and, I think, not so filled with hate that you want a few Israelis killed to justify the high kill ratio policy.

Gun or rocket, they are still products of the military-industrial-complex, aren't they? Rockets can reach over terrain, but doesn't such a gun need line of sight to the target? Meaning you need more of them to cover the same amount of area.
 
"Why do Americans think they fund everything with their little bit of aid?"

Because Israel was carved out and has been maintained with money and weapons made in the USA.

???

The first one is a OP-ED by some pro-Palestinian group, and the second one cites the exact same information I gave you!

Use your own brain to calculate the numbers and consider the impact of the actual dollars rather than listen to "Jewish Voice for Peace". I gave you the statistics, relative to its actual expenditures the aid is not all that significant.
 
Gun or rocket, they are still products of the military-industrial-complex, aren't they? Rockets can reach over terrain, but doesn't such a gun need line of sight to the target? Meaning you need more of them to cover the same amount of area.

No artillery does not need line of sight. Todays artillery can hit very accurately and with good range. With a good system set up, Israel could launch counter-strikes of artillery withing seconds of a Qassam rocket. But of course that not going to stop the rocket, but Israel and the USA have been working for some time on a perfect system for that why they are sticking with iron dome despite how expensive and how useless it will be is beyond me, perhaps some military politics, who knows.
 
I gave you the statistics, relative to its actual expenditures the aid is not all that significant.

So if the US provided $3 billion in weaponry, a few nukes, fighters, and submarines to

Hamas, this would also then be insignificant to you.
 
So if the US provided $3 billion in weaponry, a few nukes, fighters, and submarines to

Hamas, this would also then be insignificant to you.

How much do you think a nuclear bomb costs? Well...50 years ago 2 primitive nuclear bombs cost 5 billion dollars. One submarine costs about 4.5 billion, and fighter planes...luckily their air force is only 90 million per jet.

They send about 3 billion a year to Egypt...a country which has attacked Israel a few times ;), and that doesn't seem to bother me too much. Hamas, is a terrorist organization, if you disagree you're either a complete moron or have been locked in a basement for 61 years. But that's okay, Iran is trying to send enough military aid for account for the deficit.

More than a billion dollars in aid has been sent to Gaza each year...go ahead...read
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Governmen...tarian_aid_to_Gaza_following_6_month_calm.htm
 
Look, Israel is a flaming military welfare-case, utterly beyond compare in the region. If you really can't see that, I'll try and find sources of information you won't dismiss. Can I have a list of common government and media sources that you would approve as references?
 
Look, Israel is a flaming military welfare-case, utterly beyond compare in the region. If you really can't see that, I'll try and find sources of information you won't dismiss. Can I have a list of common government and media sources that you would approve as references?

I accept the same standards that any high-school professor allows. .gov, .edu, or (not applicable in this case) valid organizations such as Physics, Mathematics, Chemistry journals. The United Nations happens to be a .org, so...it's also valid as a source.
 
Look, Israel is a flaming military welfare-case, utterly beyond compare in the region. If you really can't see that, I'll try and find sources of information you won't dismiss. Can I have a list of common government and media sources that you would approve as references?

and that's not even counting a large percentage of their military isn't based on Israeli designed its based on what other countries have acheived. most of this being the heavier things. almost all of their tanks, planes, and fighting vechiles are based off of other countries designs or use their components.
 
and that's not even counting a large percentage of their military isn't based on Israeli designed its based on what other countries have acheived. most of this being the heavier things. almost all of their tanks, planes, and fighting vechiles are based off of other countries designs or use their components.

So what? This is a pattern common to each Bloc.
 
You really can't figure it out. IT means that despite cheski's claim that Israel got to where it was today with the aid it got he's wrong.

Ad hom - and apparently you forgot your own statement. You claimed that Israel based its work on that of other nations. Well, so did most powers in the Eastern and Western Blocs. Did you really not know this?
 
Ad hom - and apparently you forgot your own statement. You claimed that Israel based its work on that of other nations. Well, so did most powers in the Eastern and Western Blocs.
True but they don't claim that without that help they would be just as well off. would Israel's economy and GDP be as strong as it is today if they had to spend 100's of billions of dollars on R&D over the years to get probably not as good equipment.

Did you really not know this?
I see you once again chose to miss they point. I know this.. But if you tried being intellectualy honest you would admit that truth undermines Cheskis point.
 
You really can't figure it out. IT means that despite cheski's claim that Israel got to where it was today with the aid it got he's wrong.

There's no excuse for my responding to you... but... every country buys military equipment from military corporations. Even the US buys from European military manufacturers, China buys from Russian plants...Europe buys from US manufacturers...etc etc. Israel buys some from Lockheed Martin, McDonnell Douglas, and Boeing defense. Those aren't owned US government agencies...

Israel also has the IAI (Israel Aerospace Industries) which makes products which rival and surpass many American products in many respects.
 
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