Lori_7 said:
YOU DON'T GO TO HELL FOR COMMITTING SIN!!!!
Everyone is born a sinner and dies a sinner. So, it's impossible that whether or not you sin determines whether you go to heaven or hell. If there was such a person who did not sin, they wouldn't need Jesus as a Saviour. Jesus is the only one who lived without sin.
It's a choice people...if you want to live in communion with God, then you go where He is...if you don't, then you go where He's not. It's THAT SIMPLE.
Perhaps you can explain something to me.
If we do not go to Hell for sinning (please check all my Bible quotes above) then why do we wretched sinners need Jesus to stay out of Hell?
It makes no sense to me.
In one breath you say that Jesus is the only way to keep us horrible compulsive sinners out of Hell (since we are all sinners, we all need Jesus to stay out of Hell).
In the next you are saying that sinning doesn't get you into Hell.
Sounds like a contradiction to me.
You seem to be saying that God came down here to save us because we were sinning and in his infinite compassion, wanted to offer us a way out of eternal Hellfire.
So, since we would be going to Hell as sinners, he said, "OK. Come to me. Accept me into your heart and repent, and I will save you from Hell and accept you into my bosom if you are willing to be accepted.
Basically, "You are going to Hell because you sinned, but I am offering you a do-over.
Do you want it?"
If that's the case, reason dictates that sinners go to Hell, unless they turn to God, and ALL people sin, so ALL people need God.
Eternal co-dependency.
I don't understand why anyone would chose to be a member of a religion that constantly tells you that you are a piece of $hit, that does not have the capacity to live without being a selfish sinning bastard.
So, what, then, if not sinning, is the ticket to Hell?
enton said:
Well Christ Jesus (Jesus the Christ) is of course sinless.
I asked about this earlier...
Please show the Chapter and Verse that states this.
Lori_7 said:
Who said they're going to hell? You? Or your "church"? Who in the hell is anyone to determine whether anyone else is going to hell or not?
Well, YOU apparently...
Lori_7 said:
Acceptance of salvation through Christ is the ONLY thing that keeps any one of us wretched self-serving assholes out of hell.
...who claims to be speaking for the Bible...
Lori_7 said:
Hey, I'm just telling you what it says in the Bible.