WTC Building 7 on 9/11

Blue Moose: "you saying that all those professors through out the world are CTs"

Yes I am. Of course Professors can be conspiracy theorists. All of those Professors theorizing conspiracy are indeed conspiracy theorists. If you can't follow that, you might be hopeless when it comes to applying your own reason.

"Same could be said about you"

Lamer ad-hominem.

"the official reports are just as weak or weaker than theory of demolition regarding WTC7"

Read the links. There is a clear difference between sincere analysis and sensationalist conjecture.

"You people getting little frenzy now all the sudden."

I'm only bothering with you

a) because you have made this annoying topic active again- I won't bump this crappy thread when it's down where it belongs.

and

b) because leaving your nonsense unchallenged belittles this forum.

Please read the links I have offered, and I'll be happy to further discuss any of the specific points I quoted, if you're sincere.
 
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BlueMoose said:
-Are you sure that you are not talking NOKIA mobile phones, or using KONEs elevator ? Your relative could have artificial joint in hes body made in here. Welcome here where we have clean air, clean water, lots of lakes and forest, still top technology advances in many fields. Near free healthcare, free education to everybody, even for you. :cool:
-It wasnt offence since I know that ignorance is a bliss. :D
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Since you brought it up:

There is one U.S. Patent Number 887357 for a wireless telephone, issued 1908 to Nathan B. Stubblefield of Murray, Kentucky. He applied this to "cave radio" phones and not directly to cellular telephony as we know it today.[1] However, the introduction of cells for mobile phone base stations, invented in 1947 by Bell Labs engineers at AT&T, was further developed by Bell Labs during the 1960s. Radiophones have a long and varied history going back to Reginald Fessenden's invention and shore-to-ship demonstration of radio telephony, through the Second World War with military use of radio telephony links and civil services in the 1950s, while hand-held cellular radio devices have been available since 1983. Due to their low establishment costs and rapid deployment, mobile phone networks have since spread rapidly throughout
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone

This is not a nationalist thread but since you asked for it...i could go on and on for pages too:rolleyes:
 
some things i remember about building 7.
on 9/ 11 a fire started in WTC 7 that spread all across the lower floors of the building.
this fire was unique in that the fire could not be put out.
also, parts of the plane damaged WTC 7.
these facts was reported on the day it happened.
it was later determined that debris from one, or both, of the towers also damaged 7.
now, it's highly likely that all of these taken together could have resulted in the catastrophic failure of the supporting structures
 
-It didnt take much time in Pop-Mec site to find out its conflicting nature.

There is no scientific basis for the conclusion that explosions brought down the towers," Lerner-Lam tells PM. "That representation of our work is categorically incorrect and not in context."
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=5#wtc7

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Experts cannot explain why the seismic waves peaked before the towers hit the ground. Asked about these spikes seismologist Arthur Lerner-Lam, director of Columbia University's Center for Hazards and Risk Research told AFP, "This is an element of current research and discussion. It is still being investigated."

"Only a small fraction of the energy from the collapsing towers was converted into ground motion," Lerner-Lam said. "The ground shaking that resulted from the collapse of the towers was extremely small."

Last November, Lerner-Lam said, "During the collapse, most of the energy of the falling debris was absorbed by the towers and the neighboring structures, converting them into rubble and dust or causing other damage -- but not causing significant ground shaking,"

Evidently, the energy source that shook the ground beneath the towers was many times more powerful than the total potential energy released by the falling mass of the huge towers.

http://www.911review.com/errors/wtc/seismic.html

-So can you tell me what Mr. Lerner-Lam is trying to say ?
-To me it looks like he doesnt have a clue or that he is hiding the truth, choose your pick.

-I will check your other links later, gotta sleep a little.
 
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Jonh99
This is not a nationalist thread but since you asked for it...i could go on and on for pages too

-Being little hypocrite here ? Since I asked for ? LOL !!! What about your remarks on the vodka thing ? :bugeye:

-You can polish your nation all you want, but keep in mind that what we have achieved is done by 5000 000 people in very hostile climat, that should bring things to some perspective.
-Go look winter war in google if you want some real hero war stories in WW2.
-And your are right, lets not take this thread to that road. Cheers.
 
I am curious as to how a team would not only get into the building with what would have to be a fairly large number of explosives, have the time to plant them and how on that day when the building was occupied by thousands of people that no one would know anything. Not even maintenance people, you know that buidings like that especially in Manhattan do not really shut down or empty entirely of people and are usually very secure - actual security guards and logs are kept.

So go ahead explain all that.
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They didn't do this on 9/11, they had all the time in the world before.

Christ, can you think for yourself a little?
 
Note- one fact that is usually not mentioned regarding fires is that a fire reduced the load on a building. The steel column is an excellent conductor, so basically you can almost never have a "concentrated" hot spot on such structures. Basically those fires wouldn't have been in the same place for long, and would have reduced the load.

Also, if there was so much outside edge damage to WTC 7 it would have fallen on its side.

I think the real problem is that there are no unbiased sources, since they all come from non-Americans. Here is a non-biased source.
 
Another non-biased source

I've never seen some of the footage on this video, but if anyone can explain to the contrary (ie information on WTC 7's impending collapse, particularly WTC 7 because it could have been any other building that could have collapsed so don't spit any bs about how they were trying to be "safe").
 
Hurricane Angel said:
They didn't do this on 9/11, they had all the time in the world before.
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Having time doesn't solve the problems of getting a lot of explosives into a building under the eyes of security and then having no one notice them. Then a large section of one of the tallest buildings in the world falls on WTC7 and the fire burns for seven hours and none of these invisible explosives go off?




Of course we already ignoring several other problems here such as
-the motivation for loading up a building with explosives that wasn't even going to be hit by planes and
-the absurd amount of evil people that would be needed to pull off such a strange stunt and
-the fact that the firefighters were pulled out long before it actually collapsed because they suspected the damage and fire would cause it to do so.

I could go on...
 
Having time doesn't solve the problems of getting a lot of explosives into a building under the eyes of security and then having no one notice them. Then a large section of one of the tallest buildings in the world falls on WTC7 and the fire burns for seven hours and none of these invisible explosives go off?
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look up "madrid tower", please explain that event in the context of WTC 7.



Of course we already ignoring several other problems here such as
-the motivation for loading up a building with explosives that wasn't even going to be hit by planes and
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Yeah... okay there. WTC 7 housed thousands of files on the billion dollar frauds committed by Enron, and Worldcom. that right there is enough to burn the building.

-the absurd amount of evil people that would be needed to pull off such a strange stunt and
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oh my, please don't bring such assumptions, let's stick to science not the human psyche. after all I could argue that they believed they were doing it for the greater good. (re; nazi germany)

-the fact that the firefighters were pulled out long before it actually collapsed because they suspected the damage and fire would cause it to do so.
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considering larry silverstein and mayor giulliani are well connected w/ the white house, i don't see how they couldn't use their new york connections to tell them to stay away, and strangely not put out a fire.

I could go on...
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please do
 
As you might have not understood that SFRJ meant Yugoslavia, I have lived in more places in the past than you will ever in your entire life.
 
I've sent you a PM, if you can't stay on topic (WTC 7) you're welcome to message me back with a grand list of your international exploits.
 
Hurricane Angel said:
As you might have not understood that SFRJ meant Yugoslavia, I have lived in more places in the past than you will ever in your entire life.
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Biography:
Born in SFRJ, now in Canada. Athlete and scholar, and other honest pursuits.
Location:
Toronto, Ontario
Interests:
student, work, friends, kendo
Occupation:
messiah

Date of Birth:
April 17th, 1986
Age:
21

A yes, 21 and so cosmopolitan, ....your full of shit, as some one said a farm boy, who has never been past the county line, the computer is your travel agent.
 
Hurricane Angel said:
Note- one fact that is usually not mentioned regarding fires is that a fire reduced the load on a building. The steel column is an excellent conductor, so basically you can almost never have a "concentrated" hot spot on such structures. Basically those fires wouldn't have been in the same place for long, and would have reduced the load.
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wasn't the pillars in WTC7 concrete?
 
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