Well, if that is your choice then so be it. If you change your mind, let me know. I'd be interested in any further point you'd have as well as the debate in whole. I apologive if your irritated. But I will state that as a member for... Hmmm geez... 4+ years that irritation is a bi-product of this forum. You're bound to get irritated, pissed off and angry at some point. Welcome to SciForums! LOL!
how can one have a real conversation with someone that makes a stupid claim first then expects you to back it up?
how can one have a conversation with someone who thinks you are supposed to prove if people are happy, suffering etc based on statistics but believes they don't have to back up with statistics that those 'other' people may not be suffering but are happy which they conveniently assume? how do they fucking know? did they go around and ask each one? no, they think i'm the one who is supposed to prove something, but not them, even when they made the more ridiculous claim. they make a claim, they don't need to qualify it. you make a claim, you do. they demanded i prove 'scientifically' while their 'drop in a bucket' is all legit. notice the narcissism? they stated my opinion is not a fact asking for all the qualifications that they don't give two shits about if it's their opinion. but their opinion is what, not a fact perhaps? no answer. what they truly believe is real even with no facts etc. read all the statements and you'll see classic narcissistic personality. their love of this god is quite intrigueing lacking so much conscience coupled with piggish selfishness. how they feel and how they view others is what is real. there is never a moment where they consider to take another perspective. if another counters, then it's them who has the responsibility to come up with all the statistics, numbers, references, or credible sources they flip off when it's their opinions, feelings, beliefs about god or any other subject.
this thing couldn't look this up themselves? something that should be important to a religious person? but rather demanded i provide facts or figures? don't you think that they should be looking for it if they even had a bit of curiosity while they spouted off?
eighty percent of the world's population lives on less than ten dollars a day. does this thing think most people are not suffering in some way? this doesn't even include other forms of suffering post and present such as those with disease, mental health problems, broken homes, enslavement of some type, lack of education, lack of healthcare, crime, war etc. even in developed countries many people are suffering or unhappy with either health, income, drugs or domestic issues. this should be obvious if one even has a basic education or clue outside of themselves. even i don't have an education and it is obvious. it would be more fair to say that there is more suffering in some way for most people in the world. that is taking into account every type of suffering that exists. if people were so happy, this world would be a lot more of a paradise than what it is now. we know it isn't. i see people stressed out and unhappy even in developed countries. their suffering is perhaps less in some ways but a lot of them are not happy either. only a small percentage control the world's wealth.
where do they get this drop in a bucket when it comes to suffering and despair? it's superficial to just look at income too. people are feeling emotional beings, not inanimate superficial objects who just need be fed and have a roof over their heads. we don't know what they are actually going through. does it mean one is personally responsible to fix it all? no. but why make such a flippant statement about something like this. how can someone see lives just as statistics? as if you same some, the rest don't matter like it's a game or how many problems you got correct on a test for bonus points. they are lives. i don't however believe in making people rich or wealthy or helping them live a superfluous life. i don't think it really does people much good mentally or emotionally.
http://helppoor.wordpress.com/statistics/
