Why atheism makes you mean

S.A.M. said:
Only atheists have the ego to nominate themselves as God.
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see if you were atheist you could be God too..:p
Japan, New Zealand, Scandinavian societies

Those are dying societies. I bet they have negative population replacement. Unless they revert to theism, they have no future.
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LMAO..

Japanese are some of the smartest people in the world and they are kicking Big 3 US auto makers azz like no one else,
also have one the best educational systems in the world...
and
Scandinavian countries have some of the lowest crime rates in the world and a very high standard of life for every person

your dogmatic quest of dissing atheism is getting really PATHETIC!
 
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light said:
maybe you should dust off your google browser or something

"The official Chinese nationalistic view in the 1920s and 1930s was heavily influenced by modernism and social Darwinism, ..... "
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When you can link to something that has the slightest relationship to your bizarre assertion that Mao confessed his ideology had been built on Darwinian evolutionary theory, feel free.

Until then, that was and is bullshit.
light said:
so communism (in the marxist sense) plus darwinism equals what in terms of modern history?
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The 19th Century Enlightenment? How many guesses do we get? What are you talking about?
 
religion teach us to be resilient and calm and be kind hearted to one another, that will benefit you a lot if you are doing business because customer will visit you more frequently if you are polite and kind-hearted person. politeness and fairness play an important role in your business environment, hence you definitely can generate more income. customer will never love to deal with you if you are bad manner or not fair in price and item. those without religion still can generate more income but bear in mind that you need to have politeness and fairness, you can learned it from your parents,friends or reading more positive articles in books or newspaper. there is a reason for this post. thanks

feel free to see my post 'how life on earth started?"
thanks
 
scorpius said:
see if you were atheist you could be God too..:p

LMAO..

Japanese are some of the smartest people in the world and they are kicking Big 3 US auto makers azz like no one else,
also have one the best educational systems in the world...
and
Scandinavian countries have some of the lowest crime rates in the world and a very high standard of life for every person!
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Doesn't change the fact that they are dying societies. How wonderful they/their lives are does not replace their population. :)
 
Sam, as usual you run about this half-cocked. If their population is declining, so what? It will rebound as other factors force themselves onto the Scandinavian consciousness. Only someone of your particular philosophical bent would take them to task for this. But tell me: what do you or your philosophy get out of declaring them "dying"?
 
Nothing, just the observation that a rise in atheism equals a decline in population. I think the social phenomena of atheism actually increases to reduce population and is the waning phase of a people. Those who survive it are the ones who keep reverting back to theism when it peaks.
 
Aaaand the proof of this is?

Look, you still haven't illustrated how the study demonstrates this connection between prosociality and the establishment of society, and how such prosociality isn't simple reciprocal altruism.

By the by: I reiterate that I hope your comment in the other thread wasn't a threat.
 
Nothing, just the observation that a rise in atheism equals a decline in population.
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Of course. The better educated, richer, better off people have less children while the poor and uneducated have many. The less educated, poorer people/nations tend to be highly religious.
 
S.A.M. said:
Nothing, just the observation that a rise in atheism equals a decline in population. I think the social phenomena of atheism actually increases to reduce population and is the waning phase of a people. Those who survive it are the ones who keep reverting back to theism when it peaks.
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Birth rates tend to decline in better educated societies where woman's rights are appreciated. Many religions dictate certain "traditional" roles for women, that trend in the opposite direction.
 
Hmm. Found this article on Der Spiegel. It goes against Sam's thesis in these paragraphs:

Is Pakistan a Failed State?

The Pakistani government has long ago given up control of this region [Quetta, near the Afghanistan border]. The army and the ISI, which takes a lion's share of the national budget, lead their own independent existence. Their links to the Taliban and to Islamic groups in Kashmir and India have grown.

Even if the government in Islamabad showed a will to crack down on these tribal areas, it's doubtful the army and the ISI would follow orders. Even Pakistan's former President Pervez Musharraf was unable to keep a lid on terrorism, and unlike his successor he had not just political but military power.

All in all, medium-term prospects for the subcontinent are rather gloomy. Pakistan recently had to be taken under the wing of the IMF. The state is as good as bankrupt. Its political leadership is either corrupt or -- when it comes to the military-intelligence service complex -- almost without influence.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,593415,00.html
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Yet it can hardly be said that Pakistan is unreligious. Are the conditions for "failed state and theism/religiosity" a bit more complex than the binary solution set Sam offers?
 
Let wait until it starts dying as a society and needs replacement from other populations.
 
Like the US
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Yes, certainly. Although overall the US is an exception to the rule, you will find that the poorer, less educated states are more religious than other states. I've got a US religiosity by state graph around here somewhere, I'll try to dig it up.
 
Depends on who defines religious. By common US polls, I am generally classified as not religious. I find that hilarious. Apparently going to church is the only criteria for being religious.
 
albertchong1999 said:
religion teach us to be resilient and calm and be kind hearted to one another, that will benefit you a lot if you are doing business because customer will visit you more frequently if you are polite and kind-hearted person. politeness and fairness play an important role in your business environment, hence you definitely can generate more income. customer will never love to deal with you if you are bad manner or not fair in price and item. those without religion still can generate more income but bear in mind that you need to have politeness and fairness, you can learned it from your parents,friends or reading more positive articles in books or newspaper. there is a reason for this post. thanks

feel free to see my post 'how life on earth started?"
thanks
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If you're doing business with a religious son-of-a-bitch, get it in writing. His word isn't worth shit. Not with the good lord telling him how to fuck you on the deal.

William S. Burroughs​
 
iceaura said:
When you can link to something that has the slightest relationship to your bizarre assertion that Mao confessed his ideology had been built on Darwinian evolutionary theory, feel free.
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what part of the phrase "heavily influenced" don't you understand?


The 19th Century Enlightenment? How many guesses do we get? What are you talking about?
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forget it
it's obvious modern history is not your strong suit ...
:rolleyes:
 
S.A.M. said:
Doesn't change the fact that they are dying societies. How wonderful they/their lives are does not replace their population. :)
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What's with the drive to over-populate?! :shrug:Surely you can see there is extreme pressure on the earth's resources, and our own ability to feed ourselves is questionable.

Over-breeding will only excacerbate it, regardless of creed.
Is this desire to outbreed and overwhelm (other religions, nations, opposing ideologies) by sheer brainwashed numbers a feature of all religions?

Is the associated decline in education and empowerment within these brainwashed hordes the unsaid aim? Easier to brainwash and manipulate God's army? "Look at those heathen/infidel/unGodly creatures, enjoying their education and social health system; see them enjoying their outrageous wealth while us down trodden dirt poor (who incidentally have God's blessing to life in the next world) have not chance...lets kill them etc etc"

I would have thought a low birthrate, or even a negative one (which I don't necessarily see as a 'dying out'), is socially, environmentally and humanely responsible. It could be seen at best as setting an example, or at worst, a sacrifice.
 
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