Only what you make of it really. If you can help someone, then, that's the point - for me.
What is your purpose for helping someone?
Only what you make of it really. If you can help someone, then, that's the point - for me.
Loss of contact hurts only if 1 exists. There is no pain in nonexistence.
I see you managed to somehow totally miss the point.
We're not discussing after you die but when contemplating what it's approach would mean to you. Any reasonable person would surely admit that they would rather live longer (if healthy!) and spend more time with those people that have meaning for them.
I fear "not existing" (at the present time) because I have children under 18 and who are not on their own and independent. Even though my parents are alive and I have a sister and brother, who love my kids, I feel it would be a burden for them to raise my children.
I think as my kids get older, and more independent, I will feel less fearful about "not existing". Right now I feel my job is not finished.
Actually I don't see why there are any transcendental requirements for the point I made.You and Exeter should get together and discuss your fear of death. Maybe both of you can invent some other dimensions or planes of existence just to help mollify the situation.
Generally when we have "perks" we endeavor to protect or maintain them in a shadow of fear.It's not about whether there are perks or whether nonexistence is palatable.
Self glory I suppose And there's always the faint hope that what comes around goes around. I mean, pass it along.What is your purpose for helping someone?
Trying to justify it makes you sound scared.
This is off topic.
Self glory I suppose And there's always the faint hope that what comes around goes around. I mean, pass it along.
yes, if pain is the only thing in your vocabulary, it doesn't appear you have anything to lose .... hence the glories of non-existence are palatable to the miserableLeaving my door unlocked can cause pain for me. Not existing would not cause me any pain.
I am not afraid of death.
You're afraid to admit you're full of it.
hence the conundrum for the materialist is that to retreat from death they must retreat from lifeI'm more afraid of going at the wrong time. I don't wish to croak while I can still have some fun. I don't wish to die after my kids either. Most of all I don't want to die sitting in a wheelchair, unable to move, head cocked over to one side, drool hanging from my lips, a colostomy bag strapped to my waist and having no idea whether I'm alive or dead. With that scenario in mind, I fear living more than death.
hence the conundrum for the materialist is that to retreat from death they must retreat from life
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That hardly applies to quite a few of us. "Fear" isn't the correct word at all for some - it's the anticipated loss of contact with those that we care for. And for others, it's also not being to accomplish things that they wanted to do. ”
Useless arrogant posturing.
I started the thread & wrote the title & OP. Maybe you need to start your own thread on the subject & beat your chest there.
It's not about what-all people would rather happen. It's about fear.
No, you silly, silly little kid! It's YOU doing the arrogant posturing here!!!! You began with a statement/question ASSUMING everyone had an actual fear of DEATH itself and I countered that with the fact that for a lot of people it was NOT the act of dying but rather the loss of contact with loved ones that they dreaded. I certainly feel exactly that way myself and know several others that do so also.
So get off your kiddie high-horse and use your little immature brain just a bit. I promise that it won't hurt and you'll be amazed at times just what you can learn from people MUCH older than yourself. For example, you probably look at death as something most likely in the far, distant future - while I have a much different perspective. For me, it's a real possibility every single day at my age and practically a *certainly* within 20 years and probably less.
So stop acting so childish and make an effort to GROW UP a little - OK?
Don't try to help him it's pointless. Don't talk to him. Ignore him. Don't speak to him. Run from him. Everything said above is a lie etc etc etc etc etc...