Enmos
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Who really knows ?.
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meh. You presume too much. Prove you were created and that you did not create yourself.
Why is it IMPOSSIBLE that something started from nothing?
You mention infinity. Consider this. In infinity you have infinite possibility of ANYTHING.
I do not know how life and this world started. I was not there. Were you?
So you are kidding yourself and others because you KNOW you were created. Interesting.
If you would like to suggest this is your FAITH or that your BELIEF is any of this, that would be another matter entirely.
Enmos
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No, I don't. It's just a quote from a movie. Biologically it's incorrect.
Dufus: an incompetent and stupid, though well-meaning, person
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dufus
Hold yer horses though, it was meant in a playful manner
meh. You presume too much. Prove you were created and that you did not create yourself.
Why is it IMPOSSIBLE that something started from nothing?
You mention infinity. Consider this. In infinity you have infinite possibility of ANYTHING.
I do not know how life and this world started. I was not there. Were you?
So you are kidding yourself and others because you KNOW you were created. Interesting.
If you would like to suggest this is your FAITH or that your BELIEF is any of this, that would be another matter entirely.
Your reply is just a bunch of farting far away from any known philosophical approach to seek the truth in a very complex universe . Is that all you can think of ?. Hahaha.
did you even read this link??
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html
maybe but
Im sure that millions of scientists cosmologists,astrophisicists etc have some pretty damn good evidence for BB,
if you want to "believe" a giant magic turtle farted everything into existence,be my guest.
until they are PROVEN to be FACTS,
where did you get this something from nothing silliness?
Ive never heard anyone besides bible junkys claim such nonsense.
people ,
thats why bible god is described as having basicaly human characteristics,
evil jealous and so on,
the ancient people obviously had no clue about what the Sun and stars are so they invented some magical god who made it all,and since humans rule over all they made god human and with supernatural powers too..my guess anyway
now we know way more then that,so we dont have to believe in gods
like I said the Universe must have always existed in some form or shape it just changed with BB,...
IF it suddenly popped out of nothing then the question is:which god made it
www.godchecker.com
Both Big Bang and evolution are mere theories and nothing is proven by anyone that they are a fact . Of course I did not create myself by myself and I was created : this is from observation and logic . It is not possible according to physics , chemistry , math and science that something starting from nothing at all ( zero ) can create anything at all : from science and logic attached to it .
What you say "mere" theory, you don't know what you're talking about.
You are also incorrect that physics cannot explain something coming from "nothing". According to physics, there is no such thing as a field where nothing happens, quantum particles can come into and pop out of existence in our timeframe. The universe is balanced between energy/matter and gravitational potential energy (negative energy). This is exactly how the universe should look if it came from nothing.
Evolution was never intended to explain abiogenesis, or the origins of life. That's why Darwin called his book, "On the Origin of Species".
You are also incorrect that physics cannot explain something coming from "nothing". According to physics, there is no such thing as a field where nothing happens, quantum particles can come into and pop out of existence in our timeframe. The universe is balanced between energy/matter and gravitational potential energy (negative energy). This is exactly how the universe should look if it came from nothing.
Evolution was never intended to explain abiogenesis, or the origins of life. That's why Darwin called his book, "On the Origin of Species".
I think that evolution is possible and i also think some form of 'seeding' is possible. The problem with creation is who created the creator?
Creationists will say that the universe had to have a beginning so there must be a creator. The rationale behind this is that everything has a beginning BUT what about a creator?
You don't know what you're talking about. Both have been supported by the data and logic. Whenever I hear someone say a scientific theory isn't "proven", I know they are scientifically illiterate (nothing personal).
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Not trying to argue with you, but is it not at least conceivable that God, if He (It) is a non-physical spirit, might be or could be eternal while the physical energy/matter universe that He (It) may have created is not?
I do not regard this as provable in the least, only not impossible.
As far as I can tell, the physical universe, so far, appears to not be eternal. So, to me, that might suggest that something else exists somewhere that really is eternal and is capable of creating it.
Can anyone prove that this is not at least possible?
Thanks!
What do you mean by proof? I think you mean evidence. Religious ideas don't even have that.
Lay people often misinterpret the language used by scientists. And for that reason, they sometimes draw the wrong conclusions as to what the scientific terms mean.
Three such terms that are often used interchangeably are "scientific law," "hypothesis," and "theory."
In layman’s terms, if something is said to be “just a theory,” it usually means that it is a mere guess, or is unproved. It might even lack credibility. But in scientific terms, a theory implies that something has been proven and is generally accepted as being true.
...Theory: A theory is more like a scientific law than a hypothesis. A theory is an explanation of a set of related observations or events based upon proven hypotheses and verified multiple times by detached groups of researchers. One scientist cannot create a theory; he can only create a hypothesis.
In general, both a scientific theory and a scientific law are accepted to be true by the scientific community as a whole. Both are used to make predictions of events. Both are used to advance technology.
http://www.wilstar.com/theories.htm
Three such terms that are often used interchangeably are "scientific law," "hypothesis," and "theory."
In layman’s terms, if something is said to be “just a theory,” it usually means that it is a mere guess, or is unproved. It might even lack credibility. But in scientific terms, a theory implies that something has been proven and is generally accepted as being true.
...Theory: A theory is more like a scientific law than a hypothesis. A theory is an explanation of a set of related observations or events based upon proven hypotheses and verified multiple times by detached groups of researchers. One scientist cannot create a theory; he can only create a hypothesis.
In general, both a scientific theory and a scientific law are accepted to be true by the scientific community as a whole. Both are used to make predictions of events. Both are used to advance technology.
http://www.wilstar.com/theories.htm
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So why do some scientific theories, as described above, change or even find themselves overturned over time?
Surely this has happened once or twice?
Thanks!
Because we learn new things. Even Newtonian physics still has applications, even though it was superceded by newer theories. It's not wrong, just incomplete.