Originally posted by Gevidopa
Where are the Moderate muslims????
well,since u've cared to ask---- there arent any......
A moslem is either a fanatic or nothing.scratch any self proclaimed moderate moslem on the surface and the fanatic will come to light.. more so when words such as "Jerusalem" and " palestine " come into the conversation. one hears of secular jews and secular christians ,, heck even of secular hindus, but u will NEVER EVER hear of secular moslems. it is an oxy-MORON
yes,,, yes,,, you will hear of the usual dialogues such as:
islam is a religion of peace
ubl (bin laden ) dosent represent islam
the taliban are not islam
but u should always remember -- islam was founded by the sword and propogated by the sword.. it will eventually die by the sword......
as for being a religion of peace ,, may this wonderful site suggest otherwise:
www.rawa.org
I agree with evrything you say Gevidopa
I liked your "usual dialogues"
Here are a few more dialogues that you are likely to hear when conversing with a muslim:
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There is not a single ‘true Muslim’ even though there are 1.2 billion of us.
There is not a single ‘pure’ Islamic country.
A perfect Islamic state is yet to be founded.
Ayatollah Khomeini was an enemy of Islam.
Pakistan, Iran, Sudan, Afghanistan, Nigeria…these Islamic Paradise do not follow ‘real’ Islam.
Saudi Arabian Islam is corrupted.
Not all Sahi hadis are Sahi.
The Quran is an ancient scripture; many of its provisions are not relevant now (the Quran says it is an eternal book, and its provisions are alive forever).
Tyrants and dictators rule Islamic countries; they have no idea about Islam.
Since most of the barbarism of Islam is in the Sha’ria, therefore, Sha’ria cannot be a part of ‘real’ Islam.
The clergy/Mullahs do not know ‘real Islam.’
In Islam, there is no ‘clergy’, so you may practice Islam in your own way.
But for Islam/Muslim/Arab scientists, the west would have never achieved modernity and progress. ‘Real Islam’ civilized the west.
The best country to practice ‘real Islam’ is the USA, Canada, UK and Australia!
You cannot practice ‘real Islam’ in Islamic Paradises like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Malaysia, Nigeria, Iran…etc. You must not use these countries as examples of Islamic practices.
Wahabism is not ‘real Islam’.
Alqaeda/Osama is not ‘true’ Islam.
Talibans are not ‘true’ Muslims.
Shias are not ‘true’ Muslims.
Sunnis are not ‘true’ Muslims.
Amhedia/Kadiani are heretics, not Muslims but Dr. Abdus Salam (an Ahmedi) was a devout Muslim because he received Nobel Prize in Physics.
Islam means ‘peace’ although the true meaning is ‘submission’ or surrender.
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Where do muslims get these ideas from ....
