Big Chiller
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I have heard of rotational frame dragging.
What is time??
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Frame dragging follows from the angular momentum of an object and its linear velocity. It was introduce in about 1917 as the Lense-Thirring effect and I believe there was some earlier private communications between one or more of the authors and Einstein, which led to the 1917 introduction.
It is essentially a velocity dependent curvature of space. Space is both twisted and drug along linearly by the motion of mass in space. The aspect involving angular momentum has been confirmed, most recently by the GP-B experiment. The linear effect is to small for current technologies to measure.
Big Chiller
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OnlyMe,
You could just link me to the Wiki article. 
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OnlyMe,
You could just link me to the Wiki article.
Wiki does probably have a link but that was from memory and several sources, including the GP-B site, and likely at least one reference from the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Try Wiki and Lense-Thirring if that is not enough I will dig through my library and try to dig up some other sources.
It's science blasphemy to answer though.
Actually that guy in your avatar had an idea called General Relativity that predicted frame dragging.
Actually that guy in your avatar had an idea called General Relativity that predicted frame dragging.
So did I, but I can't say why in this thread, and Einstein had the same information that I have, but he changed the words to suit science.
Which illustrates the difference between you and Einstein.
He did science.
You don't.
Maybe, but I corrected Einstein's slight mismatch, and I had to do that with methods not allowed. Science fails when it forces you to stick to the standard model.
Natural or supernatural ; science is always science .
'Spinning mass' causes 'frame - dragging ' or alters space . But, 'static mass' does not cause frame dragging . So, static mass does not alter space . Static mass only alters 'space-time' .
So, this can be said that ; " space and space-time are two different things . ".
So, this can be said that ; " space and space-time are two different things . ".
The supernatural is by definition not science.
Frame dragging is an aspect of the Lense-Thirring effect, that dates back to 1917, and earlier if you included the letters exchanged that led up to that.
Within the context of the Lense-Thirring effect, a gravitationally significant object not only produces frame dragging associated with its angular momentum, it also has a similar effect associated with its linear motion in space.
The frame dragging associated with angular momentum has been experimentally confirmed and though our current technology is unable to test for the linear effect, confirmation of frame dragging associated with an objects angular momentum, supports the existence of the linear effect.
I am uncertain whether the term, "frame dragging" is exclusively associated with an object's angular momentum or both the angular and linear effects, but the Lense-Thirring effects most certainly does involve both the angular and linear motion of objects in space.
Edit: From this perspective a non spinning object with any linear velocity in space would still drag space along with it.., weakly or very weakly. Since we can imagine no object that is in a state of "absolute" rest, all objects whether spinning or not must have some effect on space beyond the frame dragging effect associated with angular momentum and in addition to the geodetic effect or curvature of space we associate with gravitational interaction.
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If you think of time as a field as you work away from an object the field gets less effected by the object, and becomes fuzzy. If you accelerate into the field you squash it, and the field gets less fuzzy, comes into focus with that object. If you spin the object, the field fuzzily rotates with the object. If the object is stationary the field is at its fuzziest, and least propagated.
Then you move to step 2. If you can control the entire field at a distance you can step through time in a different order.
Then you move to step 3. If the brain is a field, and that field includes time. You initial starting energy is not necessarily in the sequence of the following events. Apprehension is to make an assumption of a future event. So your brain can wait for energy at the end of the field, ready to put a thought into a slot before the energy is released. The brain is making plans ahead of time, in a field that includes time in a none linear progression. This is because an internal time field can be propagated from any direction. Most of the time we are looking at the world outwardly, and time looks linear outwardly, but internally you can do whatever you like with it. You have full control of the physics in every direction.
Then you move to step 2. If you can control the entire field at a distance you can step through time in a different order.
Then you move to step 3. If the brain is a field, and that field includes time. You initial starting energy is not necessarily in the sequence of the following events. Apprehension is to make an assumption of a future event. So your brain can wait for energy at the end of the field, ready to put a thought into a slot before the energy is released. The brain is making plans ahead of time, in a field that includes time in a none linear progression. This is because an internal time field can be propagated from any direction. Most of the time we are looking at the world outwardly, and time looks linear outwardly, but internally you can do whatever you like with it. You have full control of the physics in every direction.
If something exists and has the truth in it ; it should be considered as part of science .
You mean to say that , as no mass in the space is at " absolute-rest " ; so every mass is in some motion and causing " frame - dragging " to some extent . May be . Possibilty is there as you explained .
Theoretically static mass( having neither angular nor linear motion ) can not cause " frame - dragging " . So , theoretically static mass can not cause ' curvature of space ' . But , static mass can cause ' curvature of spacetime ' , as it is subject to some force .
So , do you mean to say that ; ' curvature of space ' and ' curvature of spacetime ' are same ?