What is the future for this people?

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And I'm talking to you Crunchy Cat,, I showed you that I am humble and you do not want to help me...

I almost missed this one. Hopefully my last response clears things up for you; however, just so you know it does not matter to me whether you act arrogant, humble, nice, mean, or any other number of behaviors.
 
Yes they have and I don't doubt that.

But under law we are not Americans. We are still slaves. Those who are recognized as Emancipated slaves have no freedom under law. They are still 3/5ths of a human being and are not citizens

Although they are very great individuals, our people are still dead.

Those persons do not belong to themselves they belong to their people (community) . If their people are dead, then they are dead.

Obama is not a descendant of emancipated slaves. Kenyan father. White American mother. Not slaves.

I speak of a people. not persons.

Bye Bye miss American pie . Drove my Chevy to the levy but the levy was dry. Them good old boys were drinking whiskey and rye sing this will be the day that I die.

Do you come from a slave family? Do you know your slave past ? My relatives were slave owners in America . I met a black man with a middle name of one of my relatives. Brilliant Man with much insight . Course His Family went through hell and back and he is the survivor. . He has a Japanese past also and grew up in Japan so he has been a little bit disconnected from his slave past by being Japanese also . You can get D.N.A. testing these days and find out were you are most likely from . Course I think we all come from Zimbabwe before human Migration. I think there is a hidden wonder in the name it self . Great House of Stone . What do you know about its origins ? Anything ? You know what I heard? There is 70,000 year old gold mines around that area . That is some old time history .
 
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jwyatt123,

It is truly tragic what happened to African slaves in America. Their history is one of oppression and after slavery, they had to deal with Jim Crow laws and ghettos and discrimination of all kinds. There is still a problem in the African American community with poverty and crime although many are now middle class. That being said, they are American citizens now. They have enthusiastically adopted Christianity (as have many Africans in Africa). They can own property as much as anyone else, and they have all the rights under the law as any citizen. What you are doing is making slavery a stone around their necks that they can never remove. There were plenty of poor white indentured servants, workers, and farmers, and in many respects they were in the same situation as blacks. Jews, Irish, Catholics, and Italians also suffered from discrimination and poverty. To say that blacks having nothing now and own nothing is a load of crap.

And every nation must bear a national descent name of their forefathers, because honoring thy fathers and mothers youru days will be lengthened upon this earth.
That's also a load of crap. You are reading some weird kind of religious significance into it which is unrealistic. It is tragic that Africans were deprived of their names and culture, but not all of them were. African cultures live on in some areas of the south, particularly on an island off South Carolina which was a refuge to runaway slaves. The banjo was originally an African instrument. African music influenced America in profound ways. Every generation makes their own culture, and blacks are no exception. It's time to throw out a lot of this emotional baggage, while at the same time respecting when came before you.

Some African-Americans felt as you do and started their own country in Africa, it's called Liberia, and it's a very poor and troubled nation.
 
Hmm, such ignorance. All black slaves were sold by black slave traders! There was no civilization or achievements either. They didn't even discover the wheel or leave a written language. Ironically, many blacks are turning to islam whose original followers were enslaving blacks 100s of years before the whites.

The world has seen black progress in Zimbabwe, South Africa and closer to home in Jamaica and Haiti. Stoneage chaos!

It is your fault bigot . Your milk Bottle is poison . And no white Man traded in Slaves . It was a market . The market drives demand . A prostitute is not the only one that makes prostitution a viable business . The drug sales man only succeeds because of customer demand so that thing I keep hearing from Bigots holds no ground . American Slaves worked there fingers to bone For who . Black Slave sellers ? You are wrong about achievement too. You are ignorant because you deny your black roots Milk Toast . I think you need to die the death of the black man . Then you might grow a heart and start to understand that you have been a crony . The worst of offenders in the new World . There is a valid reason the American White Man is called Satan . It is the Social slavery system we still live in . Were you think I lose and you win .
It is evident by the way you make the underprivileged your scape goat . You feel better about getting your prejudice off your chest for the world to see . I hope so cause you are naked right now . Stone age Naked . Your Ignorance is all flopped out with the zipper down . Big ignoramus at that . I don't think I can get both hands around it . It is to big . Keep it away from Mt Magol mouth. I don't need your sperm floating around the universe
 
Yeah,, everyone has all of this mundane knowledge on America's economy, but when we talk group economics, people don't want to teach me their knowledge

smh..


You people take too much time in a nation that is going to fall ...


And I'm talking to you Crunchy Cat,, I showed you that I am humble and you do not want to help me/ and "cosmictraveler", you all don't want to pay me mind after I gave you my righteous heart. pathetic...

i will help you . I know sales methods of the white man . It starts with the conveying messages of trust threw trickery . The sales person exaggeration. A lot like modern music videos . Here is your first trick and it works like dream on white folks for they don't understand the ritual cause there stupid consumers. First you create the feeling of a need . Once they buy it you got them hook if you appeal to there obsessive behavior. Addictive behavior . Now the thing about Addicts is they don't know there addicts so the fruit is on the vine hanging ready to pick cause they don't even realize there supplements, bottled waters and the likes are for the most part addictive behavior . So her is the big trick . When you confront the Man say to your self " I love you when you are looking at them . This washes your face away from any resentfulness you have for the Man . This tricks the Man into thinking you care about them . When they think that !!! You become golden and the Master . They are put in the submissive roll because every one wants to be loved . So they submit like a good dog does . That is my best trick Bro . Give it a try and see for your self if the Man starts to submit to your whims . Believe it when you say it . I know you can cause I can see you are great person of continence by your Humble posts. Never mind the naysayer whites that think every one should conform to the Man . They still live in the past . There slow to see the future even as it is knocking on the door
 
If blacks limit isolate themselves economically, they are only open to some 15 percent of the domestic market. That's fine for a hair salon, but not a good business model for anything larger.
 
If blacks limit isolate themselves economically, they are only open to some 15 percent of the domestic market. That's fine for a hair salon, but not a good business model for anything larger.

Thank you for your comment....


Why would we completely isolate ourselves all at once?

That is not what is needed.

We understand we need true integration, not hypocritical integration. But we can at least grow our own food and feed ourselves.

Blacks in every community do not feed themselves. They are being fed from other than themselves. This makes them dependent. This makes them dead because they don't even produce for themselves basic need. They don't pull together their businesses to create wealth between themselves.
 
i will help you . I know sales methods of the white man . It starts with the conveying messages of trust threw trickery . The sales person exaggeration. A lot like modern music videos . Here is your first trick and it works like dream on white folks for they don't understand the ritual cause there stupid consumers. First you create the feeling of a need . Once they buy it you got them hook if you appeal to there obsessive behavior. Addictive behavior . Now the thing about Addicts is they don't know there addicts so the fruit is on the vine hanging ready to pick cause they don't even realize there supplements, bottled waters and the likes are for the most part addictive behavior . So her is the big trick . When you confront the Man say to your self " I love you when you are looking at them . This washes your face away from any resentfulness you have for the Man . This tricks the Man into thinking you care about them . When they think that !!! You become golden and the Master . They are put in the submissive roll because every one wants to be loved . So they submit like a good dog does . That is my best trick Bro . Give it a try and see for your self if the Man starts to submit to your whims . Believe it when you say it . I know you can cause I can see you are great person of continence by your Humble posts. Never mind the naysayer whites that think every one should conform to the Man . They still live in the past . There slow to see the future even as it is knocking on the door


Thank you for your contribution brother...


I can use this technique to acquire some producing land that we can call our own. If we get some land then we can create manufacturing centers that are black owned and we can distribute the manufacturing products to black owned stores that operate within our communities.

We need land brother. What are some ways we can acquire land? Where is the producing land? What is the legal process for acquiring land? Can soil grow any type of seeds or just a limited kind?
 
Thank you for your contribution brother...


I can use this technique to acquire some producing land that we can call our own. If we get some land then we can create manufacturing centers that are black owned and we can distribute the manufacturing products to black owned stores that operate within our communities.

We need land brother. What are some ways we can acquire land? Where is the producing land? What is the legal process for acquiring land? Can soil grow any type of seeds or just a limited kind?

Farming is a science in it self . I come farmer stalk. Me relatives were farmer . We got a little saying in Me family to help remember our first relatives in America . It Goes Herman Henry Harmon they was good at farming Issac John Issac John and then the Me. That all starts from 1709 and ends with Me right here right now in 2011. We took the land by force . I don't own any of that land . Other parts of the family own it . What is left of it anyway . A lot has been sold and the money they got pissed away .

O.K. here is the thing Land has been made cheap so now is a good time to be thinking about getting some . That is trick of land . To get it while the market is at its low . I can't tell you if it reached the bottom yet , but it must be getting close . Now tribe Salish Kootenai Tribes they devised a plan to buy up land as to strengthen the Tribe so I believe you thinking right . They have been very successful at rebuilding there cultural identity. They still have some issues to work threw , but all and all there national heritage is coming on strong. Consolidate , That is what they did . Kind of like the Jewish peoples . They take care of there own . Kind of like Mormons. Mormons own a lot of stuff . They have there own welfare system for taking care of there own . They create job security for there own and they consolidate there actions. Yeah they discriminate . See that is the secret right there is there ability to discriminate towards those that are like them . For example you might not get a job unless you are a Mormon . Now they can't come out and say this shit our they look like a bunch of bigots discriminating . So it becomes an unwritten law by attitude . Like secret Hand shake. I hear them all the time . They don't realize the old Magol Mouth listens to them with both ears ( I am a musician and I didn't tell anyone until here recently, so even though my ear is selective i hear pretty good ) So the trick is to do business with your own at a cheaper rate than the rest . Build your circle of influence with in . Consolidate resources and then think up products that you can spin into an addiction for all the other circles to buy from you and your investment group . It can be services also , the main thing is to find the addiction in the service or product . Consider this " If you make a dollar off an Item and you are able to sell a 100 million of them ? Now what if that 100 million needed one a day . You see what I mean by addiction . The needs of humans are pretty small ( Food , water ,shelter and air ) The rest is addiction . That is a lot of addicts to sell to. Can you see that . So 1 Consolidate 2 Give the addicts the drugs they think they need so badly . If you play it off of what they have to have to survive ( water , food , air ,shelter) even better cause they got to have all of the 4. So Farming is not a bad idea at all . The competition is stiff and I just heard of an old evil white family that controls a big part of the farming industry to the tune of billions while they sit on there fat asses eating bon bons telling the world to eat shit and die cause they got all the money . Filthy right white fucks with out hearts . Them not having a heart gives you advantage . You can explore there absence of heart too as you climb the ladder to take them out of the equation .
The tool . The power tool < Rumors This works on the stock market too . So if you get to were your trade is big enough then this tool becomes big cause the market is like antelope. They will bunch up at a fence line and not know where to go until one finds a way to get though the fence. Once the ones does all the rest do like follow the leader . It don't take much to make them run . If I am laying in cover with my camouflage on down wind where they can't smell Me it only takes on shot in the air to make them run . So think of this ? The day before you cut a hole in the fence . You know there rout so you know they will approach the fence as usual, but you made it easier for them to get trough the fence at a spot you want them to go . I call it the path of least resistance . That is human nature at its finest. So you set up the path of least resistance . Addicts will follow addicts
 
But we can at least grow our own food and feed ourselves.

Blacks in every community do not feed themselves. They are being fed from other than themselves. This makes them dependent. This makes them dead because they don't even produce for themselves basic need.

More BS

Only a few percent of us are farmers, and even farmers who grow vast acres of corn, soybeans or wheat aren't actually feeding themselves off of what they grow, so it is the very rare exception today to find someone who actually grows most of the food needed to feed themselves.

In a modern society we are all dependent on each other.

Doesn't make us dead.

You really need to get with the program.

Arthur
 
If we get some land then we can create manufacturing centers that are black owned and we can distribute the manufacturing products to black owned stores that operate within our communities.

So you think MORE SEGREGATION is the answer????

yikes.
 
More BS

Only a few percent of us are farmers, and even farmers who grow vast acres of corn, soybeans or wheat aren't actually feeding themselves off of what they grow, so it is the very rare exception today to find someone who actually grows most of the food needed to feed themselves.

In a modern society we are all dependent on each other.

Doesn't make us dead.

You really need to get with the program.

Arthur


Well I don't really concern with your capitalist, exploitative economy anyway. The western world is almost out of here.

If ur not dead yet, you will be. Your so-called forefathers knew it. Obama knows it. IMF knows it. Rothchilds know it. The head of the illegal Federal Reserve knows it. The head of the Vatican ( which is a state ) knows it.

They have a plan for you.
 
So you think MORE SEGREGATION is the answer????

yikes.


In the words of MALCOLM X ( Greatest solider of Islam ):

Segregation is something forced upon you. Separation is equality, meaning you have your own and are respected because you have your own. When you are respected you wont' hear false cries of " everybody is equal " or "come join us, well take care of you" when we can take care of ourselves. Taking care of ourselves is what makes us respectable. No matter how much people like adoucette don't see how hypocritical ( not true ) integration is like sleeping on train tracks.
 
Farming is a science in it self . I come farmer stalk. Me relatives were farmer . We got a little saying in Me family to help remember our first relatives in America . It Goes Herman Henry Harmon they was good at farming Issac John Issac John and then the Me. That all starts from 1709 and ends with Me right here right now in 2011. We took the land by force . I don't own any of that land . Other parts of the family own it . What is left of it anyway . A lot has been sold and the money they got pissed away .

O.K. here is the thing Land has been made cheap so now is a good time to be thinking about getting some . That is trick of land . To get it while the market is at its low . I can't tell you if it reached the bottom yet , but it must be getting close . Now tribe Salish Kootenai Tribes they devised a plan to buy up land as to strengthen the Tribe so I believe you thinking right . They have been very successful at rebuilding there cultural identity. They still have some issues to work threw , but all and all there national heritage is coming on strong. Consolidate , That is what they did . Kind of like the Jewish peoples . They take care of there own . Kind of like Mormons. Mormons own a lot of stuff . They have there own welfare system for taking care of there own . They create job security for there own and they consolidate there actions. Yeah they discriminate . See that is the secret right there is there ability to discriminate towards those that are like them . For example you might not get a job unless you are a Mormon . Now they can't come out and say this shit our they look like a bunch of bigots discriminating . So it becomes an unwritten law by attitude . Like secret Hand shake. I hear them all the time . They don't realize the old Magol Mouth listens to them with both ears ( I am a musician and I didn't tell anyone until here recently, so even though my ear is selective i hear pretty good ) So the trick is to do business with your own at a cheaper rate than the rest . Build your circle of influence with in . Consolidate resources and then think up products that you can spin into an addiction for all the other circles to buy from you and your investment group . It can be services also , the main thing is to find the addiction in the service or product . Consider this " If you make a dollar off an Item and you are able to sell a 100 million of them ? Now what if that 100 million needed one a day . You see what I mean by addiction . The needs of humans are pretty small ( Food , water ,shelter and air ) The rest is addiction . That is a lot of addicts to sell to. Can you see that . So 1 Consolidate 2 Give the addicts the drugs they think they need so badly . If you play it off of what they have to have to survive ( water , food , air ,shelter) even better cause they got to have all of the 4. So Farming is not a bad idea at all . The competition is stiff and I just heard of an old evil white family that controls a big part of the farming industry to the tune of billions while they sit on there fat asses eating bon bons telling the world to eat shit and die cause they got all the money . Filthy right white fucks with out hearts . Them not having a heart gives you advantage . You can explore there absence of heart too as you climb the ladder to take them out of the equation .
The tool . The power tool < Rumors This works on the stock market too . So if you get to were your trade is big enough then this tool becomes big cause the market is like antelope. They will bunch up at a fence line and not know where to go until one finds a way to get though the fence. Once the ones does all the rest do like follow the leader . It don't take much to make them run . If I am laying in cover with my camouflage on down wind where they can't smell Me it only takes on shot in the air to make them run . So think of this ? The day before you cut a hole in the fence . You know there rout so you know they will approach the fence as usual, but you made it easier for them to get trough the fence at a spot you want them to go . I call it the path of least resistance . That is human nature at its finest. So you set up the path of least resistance . Addicts will follow addicts


Now I am assuming you are talking of American soil. What are some options in Africa, or elsewhere ?

http://www.info-ghana.com/buying_land_in_ghana.html

That is a website I found, and I thought it would be a good example for me to learn from. This is not the whole of my plan, but I want you to look at the website and see what options I have with the moves I am trying to make right now.

May you please explain the difference between plots and acres? What is their significance?


I know there will be some competition, but again, I assume you are talking about American soil. I know land is competitive anywhere, but I trust in the Most High God and in myself that I can get some land. I am not concerned with my individual needs.

Now tell me is it realistic that we can be our own raw material supplier, our own consumers, our own manufacturers, our own investors, and our own providers in this common partnership that I am trying to establish

I wan to defeat the capitalist, surplus making mind in my people. And if we are guided rightly buy the arms of God because we are righteous people, then may we be successful.

In Islam we are taught Freedom, Justice, and Equality and we don't wait around for some god to bring us food while we sit at home. Thats what they want us to do, be dependent on the white man and have him make all of our decisions for us.

Thank you for your contribution brother...


I want to feed and clothe my people. And I want to help them feed and clothe themselves. I want them to be self sufficient. And as long they are in the ghetto buying from Arabs and Asians, they won't ever get up out of their condition.

Now, I have an economic program that I will PM you soon after tomorrow, and when you look at it, I want you to point out all of the flaws and help me to make it concrete.

Again thank you for your contribution brother.
 
Well I don't really concern with your capitalist, exploitative economy anyway. The western world is almost out of here.

If ur not dead yet, you will be. Your so-called forefathers knew it. Obama knows it. IMF knows it. Rothchilds know it. The head of the illegal Federal Reserve knows it. The head of the Vatican ( which is a state ) knows it.

They have a plan for you.

So this is just some BS wannabe Islamic Jihad rant?

LOL

Shoulda seen it coming.

AMF
 
What I mean by not caring about my self is that I am more concerned with the movement of my people. please don't make mockery.

I came to this forum for some good economical and business like minds from people who know nothing of black struggle. I don't even know why I 'm wasting my time. You can't reform the European, arrogant, analytical mind I guess....

You have to understand that an unproductive people is in your midst. They do not have choices since they don't have businesses, they do not produce product to trade, nor do they produce work for themselves. So "its their choice",, no. Its not. And I know the government knows where these people are going.

Btw I don't "rely" on anyone. I am concerned with the movement of a people.

Please understand that it is truth to say that Black people are economically dead.
I'm not sure what you mean when you say "My People"? Most African Americans I know don't think of themselves as being anything other than Americans. They're no more African than I am European. IOWs, both of us see ourselves as being Americans first.

I do agree that the inner city is a shithole and will be getting shittier in the coming decades. I really don't know what can be done that doesn't impinge upon the US Constitution. It should be noted there are a LOT (if not more) Whites living like trash in the inner cities as well. AND YET, all countries look to build ever larger and larger cities of people. Funny that one.
 
But under law we are not Americans.
huh? what?
We are still slaves.
little known fact: we are all slaves to something or another.
Those who are recognized as Emancipated slaves have no freedom under law.
"emancipated slaves", Hmmm . . . , sounds kind of "victorian" don't you think?
i can't recall ever actually hearing a "black man" referred to as an "emancipated slave"
They are still 3/5ths of a human being and are not citizens
do you actually believe that?
how many blacks do you know that believes they are only 3/5 of a person?
Although they are very great individuals, our people are still dead.
our people? what is, or was, "our people"?
Obama is not a descendant of emancipated slaves. Kenyan father. White American mother. Not slaves.
do you consider yourself a slave?
 
What is this? 5%'er stuff? Nothing tangible. Spiritual promises and no foundation for building to take place. I conclude that ISLAM and 5% nation, although providing more knowledge and a better inner-naration in my opinion is like other dogma religions... I believe its all occult-system based. Look past the melanin.
 
jwyatt123

Your posts are self-defeating. Look to the people who have made it inspite of the obsticles and apply their methods to your situation.

What do you have to offer?

You talk of inner-city, is that where you are located? If so, look around you. Do the people around you need anything that you have to offer. If not, then apply the real-estate motto location, Location, LOCATION. If your selling 'soul cookies' and no one is buying, stop thinking its racism and look at your recipe. Maybe your cookies just aint that good.
 
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