What do you believe?

Remember you can define your god anyway you wish since there is nothing real that you can draw upon for support. So you have as good a chance of being correct or wrong as everyone else.

At the very least websters dictionary disagrees with you
 
I was born as a Christian Assembly of God (branch off of Pantecoastal) pastor's son, learned Presbyterian teachings in Jr. High, attended Baptist Church in high school, attended Catholic mass during high school years also, taught myself Buddhism and Islam through series of books, and took lectures and seminars on evolution and the faults of evolution.

But I believe in none of these things I've been taught.

I believe that God must exist, especially if evolution is true but I think that either God is powerless (what he created the world but can't fix its state?) or he/she/they/it is a sadist (because he created lust, moral standards, difference races and then implemente racist thoughts in us, beautiful and ugly people then implementing beauty standards in us, genetic deformities, hurricanes, cancer, AIDS, acid rain, emotional disorders, resources able to be made into weapons, etc.)

But I'm curious. What do you guys believe in? Are you Christian, evolutionist, Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, Wiccan, Satanist, agnostic, athiest but not a believer in evolution, creationist, have your own unique set of beliefs now known yet to the world? What is your religion?

If you're not afraid to come out of the closet on that, this is the thread for that.

I am thiinking about becoming a Gibson Catholic. I am also pretty sure i saw a manifestaion of JC sooooooo.
 
its sounds like you lessen God's value before the president. If I am prepared to call myself a God, why should I call myself that of a lessen status being?:eek:

Thats right - your god - just go ahead and take control of america - who cares what the president says
:rolleyes:
 
Thats right - your god - just go ahead and take control of america - who cares what the president says
:rolleyes:

No...
By my definition GOD can be anyone, everyone is GOD. I am a developing being, both evolutionary and on a social level, I become more powerfull with each day, I become this GOD in a process. I am awakening my soul to slowly transcend into a GOD.
 
No...
By my definition GOD can be anyone, everyone is GOD. I am a developing being, both evolutionary and on a social level, I become more powerfull with each day, I become this GOD in a process. I am awakening my soul to slowly transcend into a GOD.

By my definition the president of the united states can be anyone, everyone is president of the united states. I am a developing being, both evolutionary and on a social level, I become more powerfull with each day, I become this president of the united states in a process. I am awakening my soul to slowly transcend into a president of the united states.

If a street sweeper told you that what would you think?
:rolleyes:

You can try posting it on http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=58777 and see what response you get
 
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By my definition the president of the united states can be anyone, everyone is president of the united states. I am a developing being, both evolutionary and on a social level, I become more powerfull with each day, I become this president of the united states in a process. I am awakening my soul to slowly transcend into a president of the united states.

If a street sweeper told you that wha would you think?
:rolleyes:

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Grrrrrrrrr.......:mad:

You choose if you want to be that powerfull God or not.
Do you want to have power? If not that you are just a street sweeper. However as for me I want to be more than that and I am in a process of becoming a greater more powerfull GOD than I was before.
 
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Grrrrrrrrr.......:mad:

You choose if you want to be that powerfull God or not.
Do you want to have power? If not that you are just a street sweeper. However as for me I want to be more than that and I am in a process of becoming a greater more powerfull GOD than I was before.

The street sweeper also wants to have the power to be the president

As for your increasing power I guess it is still in th e realm of insignificance since no one but yourself holds you in awe and reverence
 
wants/wishes/dreams and acts/actually does something is what differs true GODs from street sweepers.

I know my physical/social/mental power has increased, I have become more of a God because I compared my physical/social/mental power to that of others around me. I was able to change from a peasant in Russia into an aerospace engineer in America and I have dreams to go further...to NASA...my dream.
 
wants/wishes/dreams and acts/actually does something is what differs true GODs from street sweepers.

I know my physical/social/mental power has increased, I have become more of a God because I compared my physical/social/mental power to that of others around me. I was able to change from a peasant in Russia into an aerospace engineer in America and I have dreams to go further...to NASA...my dream.

I am not denying that willing plays an active role in our lives - I am denying that willing extends to the impossible - for instance if a man goes to an artificial insemination clinic with the desire to become his own father he will not be successful - similarly it is not possible for us to supercede god as the cause of all causes no matter how erudite our scholarship or large our salary is

Plain old common sense
 
I am not denying that willing plays an active role in our lives - I am denying that willing extends to the impossible - for instance if a man goes to an artificial insemination clinic with the desire to become his own father he will not be successful - similarly it is not possible for us to supercede god as the cause of all causes no matter how erudite our scholarship or large our salary is

Plain old common sense

...time will pass and humans will be able to make babies from males, without an egg, with power of nanotechnology and genetic engineering the male chromosomes can be manipulated with and inserted into a cell derived from stem cells that of the male, the machines will give birth to a baby. Humans will slowly become powerfull GODs. Nothing is impossible.
 
...time will pass and humans will be able to make babies from males, without an egg, with power of nanotechnology and genetic engineering the male chromosomes can be manipulated with and inserted into a cell derived from stem cells that of the male, the machines will give birth to a baby. Humans will slowly become powerfull GODs. Nothing is impossible.
particularly in the mind of a science fiction writer

actually the more realistic q's about the future of science and society are whether we will go back to the stone age due to WMD's

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." -Albert Einstein.
 
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I'll say, since the perfect order we have in the way of the universe cannot be explained by trillions of independant and competitive entities ”

Do you know how many stars there are? They wouldn't have to be competitive.

are you advocating that stars, planets and dull matter is conscious and exerts a will on the universe? - the general consensus seems to be that dull matter is influenced by fundamental laws of physics
 
particularly in the mind of a science fiction writer

actually the more realistic q's about the future of science and society are whether we will go back to the stone age due to WMD's

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." -Albert Einstein.

Albert Einstein was a pessimist and those who impose their pessimism on others and hold power, can influence history

Science fiction writer? huh? please...the Amish people of today, if were told that they can float in air like they were birds...what would they say? they would say what a nonsense and that it is a science fiction writer's fantasy. Well lets draf them amish people to Florida to space shuttle and make them float in the ISS (international space station), how will they see their God now? How will they see themselves now?
 
are you advocating that stars, planets and dull matter is conscious and exerts a will on the universe? - the general consensus seems to be that dull matter is influenced by fundamental laws of physics

Who said that. If each God controlled a star, they wouldn't have to quarrel.
 
draqon

Albert Einstein was a pessimist and those who impose their pessimism on others and hold power, can influence history
At the very least einstein secured a more prestigious scientific title and greater salary than yourself, so that must make him a greater god than you

Science fiction writer? huh? please...the Amish people of today, if were told that they can float in air like they were birds...what would they say? they would say what a nonsense and that it is a science fiction writer's fantasy. Well lets draf them amish people to Florida to space shuttle and make them float in the ISS (international space station), how will they see their God now? How will they see themselves now?

Perhaps as only having travelled an insignificant distance on a vehicle ..... too avoid looking foolish in either commerce or scientific discussion it is wise not to rely on post dated cheques and promises for the future.
 
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