Victor Espinoza's: Thread of Intrigue

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Uncle Pythagoras said:
It makes perfect sense, and isn't even complicated.
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No, it doesn't... that jumbled mess of a sentence has absolutely no meaning that I can divine... if you have a point, then make it. Otherwise, let those with a point continue unhindered.

Captain Kremmen said:
It will do absolutely nothing, because all Victor's systems are closed systems.
Nothing that Victor has invented will work because it contravenes Newton's Third Law.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
The statement means that in every interaction, there is a pair of forces acting on the two interacting objects. The size of the forces on the first object equals the size of the force on the second object. The direction of the force on the first object is opposite to the direction of the force on the second object. Forces always come in pairs - equal and opposite action-reaction force pairs.
http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/newtlaws/u2l4a.cfm

This invention is a kind of perpetual motion machine.
Energy is supposedly removed from the system, but the original energy remains in full.
You could take some of the energy from the turbine to power the fans, and they would run forever producing free electricity.

In short, it is ideal material for the pseudoscience section.
It is truly Democratic that Victor has a place to speak, not undisputed of course, but unhindered.
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Well, no - that one could create a force despite being a closed system - two jets causing a cylinder to rotate, attached to a generator, would indeed create power. It wouldn't be terribly efficient, but it would have the potential for SOME workload. however, trying to power those jets via that generator (not sure how an electric jet would work? Ion system maybe? Not enough thrust) would still suffer the effects of resistance and friction, thus eventually reducing the system to a net zero work potential.
 
As soon as I start disagreeing with him, you start agreeing.
I think you just like arguing.;)


Uncle Pythagoras is peer-reviewing Victor.
 
Captain Kremmen said:
As soon as I start disagreeing with him, you start agreeing.
I think you just like arguing.;)


Uncle Pythagoras is peer-reviewing Victor.
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I'm not disagreeing with you to be honest - I can kind of see what Victor is getting at, and you could make a jet powered generator, but it's not practical :D Now, if he's trying to say the jets turn the cylinder without themselves moving and that is what creates the thrust, then we have a whole other issue XD

@ Uncle Pythagoras - that... doesnt' make sense, either. "There for when you need it"... what is? A bowl of alphabet soup?
 
Captain Kremmen said:
It will do absolutely nothing, because all Victor's systems are closed systems.
Nothing that Victor has invented will work because it contravenes Newton's Third Law.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
The statement means that in every interaction, there is a pair of forces acting on the two interacting objects. The size of the forces on the first object equals the size of the force on the second object. The direction of the force on the first object is opposite to the direction of the force on the second object. Forces always come in pairs - equal and opposite action-reaction force pairs.
http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/newtlaws/u2l4a.cfm

This invention is a kind of perpetual motion machine.
Energy is supposedly removed from the system, but the original energy remains in full.
You could take some of the energy from the turbine to power the fans, and they would run forever producing free electricity.

In short, it is ideal material for the pseudoscience section.
It is truly Democratic that Victor has a place to speak, not undisputed of course, but unhindered.
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I'm not fishing, I'm creating a centrifugal force to one (1) electric aircraft turbine.

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Well, to be fair, I'm not sure what the goal of the project is still...

Perhaps it might help if you start from the beginning? Explain what it is you are trying to do (create power? Create thrust? Create lift?) and how/why you want to do it?
 
victorespinoza said:
I mean no one is intereza in my project.
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With over 400 posts in this thread alone, I'm not sure that is an accurate assessment Victor. People are quite interested in your work. How do you think the folks in Hollywood make so much money? Your content is rich in comedy, probably the best humour present on Sci at the moment.
 
Uncle Pythagoras said:
Mass should always be a negative number, but scientists do not know that.
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Pure semantics.
Which is heavier a tonne of feathers or a tonne of steel? It doesn't matter which at the end of the day since the measurement has the same meaning.
It's a bit like Celsius, Fahrenheit and Kelvin. While all their values are different it doesn't change when and where water freezes, just the Semantics of how its' recorded.

The only thing that your initial statement seems to suggest is that you have your own way of viewing the world and physics in general. That's not necessarily a bad thing, however maintaining a position that your perspective is the only true way to see things can be seen as a little delusional.
 
Stryder said:
Pure semantics.
Which is heavier a tonne of feathers or a tonne of steel? It doesn't matter which at the end of the day since the measurement has the same meaning.
It's a bit like Celsius, Fahrenheit and Kelvin. While all their values are different it doesn't change when and where water freezes, just the Semantics of how its' recorded.

The only thing that your initial statement seems to suggest is that you have your own way of viewing the world and physics in general. That's not necessarily a bad thing, however maintaining a position that your perspective is the only true way to see things can be seen as a little delusional.
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Physics, and numerology are related. If you use a negative number in this case you have a hole, or concave space. This makes room for gravity, and gravity flow makes weight. If you use a positive number you have a convex shape, and a convex shape deflects other convex shapes. This is the outflow of magnetism, the push force. An outflow propagates force, and a negative inflow is required to push us to the ground. It's quantum physics so you need to be accurate about everything, otherwise you will end up with a hole bumping into you, and magnets would push iron filings away. If you have positive concave, and negative convex you will work up from quantum physics to get physics that have cold temperature passing energy to you, and hot temperature taking energy away from you.
 
Uncle Pythagoras said:
Physics, and numerology are related. If you use a negative number in this case you have a hole, or concave space. This makes room for gravity, and gravity flow makes weight. If you use a positive number you have a convex shape, and a convex shape deflects other convex shapes. This is the outflow of magnetism, the push force. An outflow propagates force, and a negative inflow is required to push us to the ground. It's quantum physics so you need to be accurate about everything, otherwise you will end up with a hole bumping into you, and magnets would push iron filings away.
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What? That's... that's not how this works... that's not how any of this works! This isn't a simulation... you can't just change numbers around and expect physics to follow suit! It doesn't work like that!
 
Kittamaru said:
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What? That's... that's not how this works... that's not how any of this works! This isn't a simulation... you can't just change numbers around and expect physics to follow suit! It doesn't work like that!
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Of course you can, what is nearer to you from a point, a cave, or a dome? The dome is nearer than the cave, so in terms of location you can't have the cave positive, and the dome negative. Negative numbers attract, so science has a positive mass electron, it throws out Quantum physics. Science has no attracting mass. Science treats the electron as a sphere, but it is a hole. It is full of gravity... which makes it spherical. Without the negative number, how would you know that the electron is full of gravity?
 
Kittamaru said:
Well, to be fair, I'm not sure what the goal of the project is still...

Perhaps it might help if you start from the beginning? Explain what it is you are trying to do (create power? Create thrust? Create lift?) and how/why you want to do it?
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I want to create thrust.

Using air.

I want to invent a space propellant.
 
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