Re: wesmorris
Originally posted by TheVisitor
1) So christianity's a virus, 2) and you get upset when someone believes they've gotten understanding from God......
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1a) Yes
2a) No, I'll resist textually flogging you for the moment and just say: I said "I get pissed off when people seem to think they know what god was thinking when he did/said/thought whatever."
Oh, but wait yeah, I do get kind of pissed off when people start spouting shit about god as if they are privvy to information that the rest of us are unaware of. To me, it seem like the result of emotional disfunction. Maybe you just don't understand eh? It's sad that people fear that which they don't understand. Isn't it?
Originally posted by TheVisitor
I don't condone the actions of "Religious organizations" that claim to represent christianity.
God didn't create these organizations...men did. But that doesn't mean theres no such thing as christians, or Christ.
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Oh wait, now YOU are doing it too. Okay, so you are obviously a fucking novice. First, realize that for every set of reproductive organs on the plant, there is a "definition of god". No two of these definitions seem to match. Oh man, this is just too much to squeeze into the little bit of effort I have refuting someone who thinks they have some sort of insight as to what "THE" god did or did not. I'll just say this: If you could step outside yourself and see your own comment.. okay wait. If I said "God sucked my dick yesterday" and I fully believed it... wouldn't you get really really pissed off at me? Okay, maybe you're Gandi and you'd just hope that someday I could overcome the fear that I have that keeps me from understanding that god doesn't suck dick. Either way what basis do you have by which to claim superior insight? Oh wait, maybe you're a scholar of the bible? Okay, a collection of stories by smart, but naive people wrote hundreds to thousands of years ago, collected in one big book is a somewhat decent historical record.. but only in as much as the people understood about the world at the time... which is well, not much.
Originally posted by TheVisitor
There are people here looking for real answers.
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And I'd like to make sure they don't get your LIES instead. I'm trying to protect them from all the nasty viruses out there.. like the one that seems to have you.
Originally posted by TheVisitor
It's sad that people fear that which they don't understand.
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Indeed Mr. Condescending Man, indeed.
Originally posted by TheVisitor
What was it Yoda said,........ and I believe someone did their technical research when they came up with this....."Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hates leads to suffering".....
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Did he say that? Not bad. I would say hat leads to pain. Not all people in pain are suffering. Some revel in it. I don't, I just get sickened by gigantic lies perpetrated on my species by well intended lemmings created by a mind virus. That's all.
Originally posted by TheVisitor
Has your hatred, and anger towards God led you yet to suffering...?
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Don't have any, not suffering. Sorry to dissapoint you. I'll try to be more miserable next time? See above.
Originally posted by TheVisitor
If not yet, given time....it will.
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Wow, I guess I didn't call you Mr. Condescending Man for nothing did I?
Originally posted by TheVisitor
God is real. I've spent a lifetime observing God in everything around me, in nature, in other people, in the scriptures, He's all around us.
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Wow, can you make him come to my house? Oh, maybe I can come over? Hell, if he'd be kind enough to unambiguously show himself, we could all be saved a lot of typing eh?
Originally posted by TheVisitor
I've seen miracles, healings, and the secrets of God's mind revealed to people around the world.
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Surely you have. Have you taken your meds today? I'm sorry, but I'll need a little more to be convinced. I'm sure you'll blame my attitude? Wild guess, pardon.
Originally posted by TheVisitor
But you can't see it until you've got the right attitude.....
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So now the intuitive genius thinks he understands my attitude based on a single post. Hmm. Why do you judge me so? Because you think god is judging you? Why do you need to be judged? What have you done wrong? Why did you do that? WHY?????? Can't you forgive yourself? Oh, you needed some poor guy who died two thousand years ago to cleanse your sins? Jesus is dead dude. Get over it. He was a raving madman anyway. He was obviously a socialist a long time before socialism came to be. Hmm.. now that I think of it.. probably where Carl Marx got his inspiration... even if he was an athiest. *giggle*
Originally posted by TheVisitor
Even Jesus Himself had to dismiss the people from the house where he was going to perform a miracle, because some people's unbelief hindered the faith of others....
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I think IF jesus existed (ask Cris about that one, interesting theory), then IMO he was insane. If someone told me "I am the light, the way." or anything remotely resembling that and were even remotely serious, I'd comtemplate scheduling an intervention.
Originally posted by TheVisitor
It's faith that makes it work...yes you have to believe in something you can't see....that may be a leap, but tell me, do you believe in love...? pour me a cup of it.
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I do believe in love. I feel it. The purest love of thought and mind is why I'm here. I love conscoiusness. I love my family. I love some other stuff too. God however, is not defined as a human emotion. I addressed this briefly above. Love is a human emotion. An abstract. As far I as know, it is nothing more than a nuerochemical trick... though the experience of said trick is pretty badass. I understand you think you've thought this through and you're completely convinced that you're right, but I think you're another victim... and that bums me out a smidge (it would be more, but my skin is thicker than it used to be).
I have faith too. My faith is in reason. Does more for me than invisible sadists in the sky (who only exists as an abstract from the weak minded who cannot accept that the question that they asked that resulted in the answer "god" doesn't have an answer)
Originally posted by TheVisitor
See what I mean.....some things just require a leap of faith.
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You honeslty think I haven't heard that kind of crap before? Damn. That borderlines on disrespect. Did you think about that at all?
Yeah okay, so you think christianity has a corner on the faith market? Are there still more Hindus than christians? Hmm.
Originally posted by TheVisitor
If you have any questions I will do all I can to answer them.
Sincerly,
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I would not at this point put much stock in your answers. *shrug*