This is too much to bear anymore!!!

it better to let nature take its course.


You asked me to state concessions israel made, but you say it not relevant for you to state it.


K, by the way obama is Manchurian candidate made by aliens bent on world domination, they tried to pull the plug when they discovered the replicating machine mess up and their prefect candidate was black, but the obama was to power: he just stared at them and their heads exploded, then he begin his pre-programed but renegade quest for world domination, even the alien overlords are spiting acid in fear of him, nothing has stopped him yet, but they say fried chicken, watermellons and purple grape juice might be our only hope.

I did state those concessions, the Oslo Accord was nothing but concession, the Israelis gave the Palestinians 95% of what they wanted, the only thing the Palestinians didn't get was the dissolution of Israel.

The Israelis agreed to withdrawal from the Gaza, and the West Bank according to the accord.

They even agreed to a Palestinian State.

Or did you miss that in the news.
 
I did state those concessions, the Oslo Accord was nothing but concession, the Israelis gave the Palestinians 95% of what they wanted, the only thing the Palestinians didn't get was the dissolution of Israel.

The Israelis agreed to withdrawal from the Gaza, and the West Bank according to the accord.

They even agreed to a Palestinian State.

Or did you miss that in the news.

We both know the Oslo accord concessions never happened, we both blame Palestinian primary, but even so many claim Israel never intended to give in, sense it never physically happened that criticization can not be put down.
 
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There is not enough trust between them to do so.

Watch this space.

Yes, a Persian oligarchic, and the Arabs are going to unite under Iran?

Not necessarily all the Arabs, but enough to make a difference.

I have a deed to a bridge in Brooklyn, and I can give you a good deal on it.

From what I can gather, this bridge would be worth zero. Like the rest of US real estate.

What home land pray tell, it was Ottoman Land, Title Deed and Patent, crown land, no home land, just conquered land.

The Arabs didn't recognize it as Palestinian Land in 1948, they wanted it as part of the Pan Arab State, devided between Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, and Egypt, when the upstart Jews was thrown into the sea.

Tired semantics. It was their homeland. The land of their fathers and the land of their birth. They were forcibly removed to make space for the Zionists Jewish state of Israel. Fact.

Genocide in Gaza? yeah, 500 killed, 75% Hamas fighters, yes the Jews really stack up to to the Nazis in running a genocide, if the Israel was intent on Genocide in Gaza, Gaza City would now be a smoking hole in the ground and the casualties numbers would be 1.5 million.

Uhh, that piece was written in 2007 indicating the dire circumstances of the Palestinians under the Gaza blockade. Read it next time, it may help. Even your own ex POTUS call this a crime and atrocity. ("Carter calls Gaza blockade a 'crime and atrocity" - haaretz.com/hasen/spages/976086.html) Why pray do you think there are rockets fired into Israel? Because they make pretty colours?
During the struggke for freedom in apartheid South Africa the ANC bombed white people indiscriminately. This was a terrorist movement who are the present South African government. No outcry from the West then? Ahh, no oil. :)

Your statement is so laughable as to be completely Ridiculous, Bombastic, Hyperbole, and dishonestly biased.

I do not laugh when innocent men, woman and children are dying. You are blinded by your own arrogance, self righteousness and hypocrisy.

Why because it exposes the actual intent of the Palestinians Muslims.

Allah gave them the land in perpetuity by conquest? so there for the only dialogue is when Muslims will get it back.

Sadly that statement is the viewpoint of the Zionists as well. The promised land. Only difference being insert "G-d". You are indeed a bigot.

Our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious.

Because they (the Zionists) have stolen our (Palestinians) birthright.

As for the real ownership of the land and the land itself, it should be consecrated for Moslem generations till Judgement Day. Those who are on the land, are there only to benefit from its fruit. This Waqf remains as long as earth and heaven remain. Any procedure in contradiction to Islamic Sharia, where Palestine is concerned, is null and void.

Because they (the Zionists) have stolen our (Palestinians) birthright.

The whole mess in the Middle East today is a direct consequence of regrettable errors in judgment by the British in their endeavor to find a solution to the Jewish problem. It really is THAT simple. Perhaps the way to fix it is to go back to the drawing board and start a process of peace and reconciliation. Unconditionally, like I said before. The apartheid state of Israel is not sustainable. And bloodshed is only a temporary and atrocious fix. :(
 
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I consider my self neutral on this issue (you may disagree), I believe both the Israelis and Palestinians have a right to life and land and the ideal solution would be a secular single state with religious freedom for jews and muslims (and other non-essential religions). This of course is not going to happen with the present horrific animosity that both side have for each other, and as long as BOTH sides are run by religious zealots. A two state solution is the only step toward unification but israel and palistine cannot seem to get their shit together in recognizing each other and respecting each other, every incursion Israel does only makes israel look worse and only strengthens the terrorists, the Palestinians need to know that the terrorism only increases their suffer. As is both sides are so bone headed there no way for peace, ever.

I agree. The potential is there, except the apartheid Zionists are terrified of being governed by ... can I say it "ARABS!" They are of course viewed as lesser mortals. Mizrachim are OK with it, its the Ashkenazic and Sephardic who seem flustered.
 
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I agree. The potential is there, except the apartheid Zionists are terrified of being governed by ... can I say it "ARABS!" They are of course viewed as lesser mortals. Mizrachim are OK with it, its the Ashkenazic and Sephardic who seem flustered.

To be honest, I would hate to be governed by Arabs, too. Have you been paying attention to how Arabs have governed in the past... I dunno, 500 years?
 
To be honest, I would hate to be governed by Arabs, too. Have you been paying attention to how Arabs have governed in the past... I dunno, 500 years?

Uhmm... have you been to Dubai?
 
I did state those concessions, the Oslo Accord was nothing but concession, the Israelis gave the Palestinians 95% of what they wanted, the only thing the Palestinians didn't get was the dissolution of Israel.

The Israelis agreed to withdrawal from the Gaza, and the West Bank according to the accord.

They even agreed to a Palestinian State.

Or did you miss that in the news.

More Bullshit lies! The Palestinians were never offered a West bank free of settlements. They were never offered a West Bank in which Palestinians could travel from the Northern parts of the West Bank to the Southern parts of the West bank without having to ask for permission to do so at Israeli controlled check points. And the Palestinians were never offered control over the West Bank's water.
 
I think Israel is being blamed too much. When Hamas decides to put children inside of the facilities that fire the rockets what do you guys suggest? Israel leave them alone? Hasam does not realize how easily Israel can beat the living snot out of Gaza and Israel has been very patient.

The second Israel gives the Palestinians their own land which they whined and whined and whined about the Palestinians start firing rockets and start whining some more about how bad they have it.
 
More Bullshit lies! The Palestinians were never offered a West bank free of settlements. They were never offered a West Bank in which Palestinians could travel from the Northern parts of the West Bank to the Southern parts of the West bank without having to ask for permission to do so at Israeli controlled check points. And the Palestinians were never offered control over the West Bank's water.

The west bank area is the only place to get fresh water naturally u moron.
 
I think Israel is being blamed too much. When Hamas decides to put children inside of the facilities that fire the rockets what do you guys suggest? Israel leave them alone? Hasam does not realize how easily Israel can beat the living snot out of Gaza and Israel has been very patient.

The second Israel gives the Palestinians their own land which they whined and whined and whined about the Palestinians start firing rockets and start whining some more about how bad they have it.

They were given control over their own land in the same way that prisoners are given control of their own prison cells.

When Israelis kill a few Palestinians the Palestinians are supposed to just take it because the people killed are alleged bad guys or because it was an accident and Israel killed somebody they were not trying to kill. There is no question that Israel terrorizes Palestinians more on a routine ongoing basis than the Palestinians manage to terrorize the Israelis when the Palestinians end their cease fire and try to deliberately terrorize Israel with rockets and suicide bombers. So why does Israel have the right of self defense and whatever they do to defend themselves should be considered moral and just while the Palestinians do not have the same rights? Oh I forgot, it is because the US government says so. Any nation or organization has the right to engage in terrorism if the US government says it is OK.

Since the few US politicians who know some history and could give a damn about truth and justice are too terrified of the political heat that will come down on them if they open their mouthes in disapproval of Israel go ahead Israel do whatever you want and there will be no disruptions in your welfare checks.
 
The west bank area is the only place to get fresh water naturally u moron.

Israel should buy water from the Palestinians. Oh I forgot it is OK for Israelis to steal from Palestinians because God gave Israel. Somebody should inform the Palestinians.
 
There not enough fresh water for everyone in Israel/Palestine anyways, so Israel desalinates it water from the ocean.
 
Have you been to Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Syria, Palestine, Iraq, or Sudan?

Arabs are a race: are you saying they are generally backwards by genetic design?

I would say Islam has been generally backwards socially since wahabism took over much of the religion back in the 18th century.
 
Arabs are a race: are you saying they are generally backwards by genetic design?

I would say Islam has been generally backwards socially since wahabism took over much of the religion back in the 18th century.

All I'm saying is I wouldn't want to live in an Arabic country.
 
Israel should buy water from the Palestinians. Oh I forgot it is OK for Israelis to steal from Palestinians because God gave Israel. Somebody should inform the Palestinians.

You just made the arguement Israelcontrols the Palestinian land. Don't make hypocritical arguement. And we all know that the Palestinians would just embargo Israel for the water.


Israel gave the Palestinians their trust in giving them land, and the Palestinian people have shown us their true colors of cowardness and betrayal, and cannot be trusted.


And Roman I agree with you, who would given the choice?
 
Anyways, the Islamic world doesn't give a crap about the Palestinians, otherwise they would help them. they just hate Israel more, and are looking for reasons to insult Israel.

Anyways none of the sources that claim 2750 injuries are credible, none are UN officers whom have recorded them firsthand. We are trusting Palestinians which i said before are untrustworthy considering they use their children as walking bombs.
 
Have you been to Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Syria, Palestine, Iraq, or Sudan?

Yup, except Iraq. I am not sure I would want to live in any of those countries for various reasons myself. So what thinks you of Dubai then? :)
 
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