This is too much to bear anymore!!!

I'm sorry, your rag has less validity than the UNFIL investigation. That major is dead, killed by Israelis.


Yes, a major Canadain New paper:

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=37278180-a261-421d-84a9-7f94d5fc6d50

Please post the UNFIL report.

Me I will take the word of a eye witness who was right there, Maj. Paeta Hess-von Kruedener, why would he lie about the actions of Hezbullah?

Give me one good reason not to take Maj. Paeta Hess-von Kruedener word as to what was happening.
 
Well I've never seen the Israelis bomb their own hospitals and schools to catch a gunman yet

Well, you are changing the scenario now. You asked whether he thought she would have been killed or not if she were an Israeli. She would still have been in that same building if she was Israeli, right ?
 
No independent confirmation

Besides, I don't know about you but even if the worlds biggest mass murderer was firing from a school, hospital or UN post, I would not consider that a valid reason to bomb these places. Regardless of whether they were Muslim or Jewish schools, hospitals or UN officials. And I cannot pretend to understand the mentality of those who would.
 
Well, you are changing the scenario now. You asked whether he thought she would have been killed or not if she were an Israeli. She would still have been in that same building if she was Israeli, right ?

But would the Israelis have bombed her anyway? UN blood is cheaper than Israeli blood
 
You're assuming they bombed the building on purpose.

Well they mistakenly bombed three UN schools in Gaza as well as the UN hospital there only this morning They also accidentally killed 22 medics, the graduating class of cops in the cop station and several ambulances. Their errors were extended to not allowing the Red Cross to reach the injured in Zeitoun for four days after which the RC found several starving kids next to their mothers corpses, whom the IDF patrolling there had been ignoring
 
Well they mistakenly bombed three UN schools in Gaza as well as the UN hospital there only this morning They also accidentally killed 22 medics and several ambances. Their errors were extended to not allowing the Red Cross to reach the injured in Zeitoun for four days after which the RC found several starving kids next to their mothers corpses, whom the IDF patrolling there had. Den ignoring

I agree it is suspicious. When I heard it on the news I thought "Yeah right". But I don't have enough information to judge the situation.. and I'm guessing you don't either :shrug:

Edit: Den ?
 
Which is why I think the UN schools and hospitals should be stationed in Israel. Sin e Israelis care SO MUCH for the Palestinians, they would be happy to provide these facilities. After all they are occupying the whole country anyway
 
No independent confirmation

Besides, I don't know about you but even if the worlds biggest mass murderer was firing from a school, hospital or UN post, I would not consider that a valid reason to bomb these places. Regardless of whether they were Muslim or Jewish schools, hospitals or UN officials. And I cannot pretend to understand the mentality of those who would.

Yes SAM I would, depending on what weapons were being used, and if I could get troops to that position to attack those individuals who were a danger to the live of my troops and citizens.

And again the responsibility under international law and the Geneva lay with the People who set up the position so as to endanger the school, hospital or UN post, by engaging in hostile actions against a opposing force.

And you are qualifying a narrow scenario, a single mass murder, not a fighting unit of Hamas, or Hezbullah, with long range weapons, capable of killing at long range.

again SAM, you:

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When it involves Muslims
 
Which is why I think the UN schools and hospitals should be stationed in Israel. Sin e Israelis care SO MUCH for the Palestinians, they would be happy to provide these facilities. After all they are occupying the whole country anyway

Sin e ? :confused:

Anyway, they should take all their weapons and put a large concrete fence around Israel/Palestine. Let them fight it out. The survivors can have the land.

I really getting sick of that bunch of babies.
 
Sin e ? :confused:

Anyway, they should take all their weapons and put a large concrete fence around Israel/Palestine. Let them fight it out. The survivors can have the land.

I really getting sick of that bunch of babies.

Since both of them will not give up the land, the only way is to learn to live together. All these ethno/theocracies will phase out in the next few years.
 
Since both of them will not give up the land, the only way is to learn to live together. All these ethno/theocracies will phase out in the next few years.

Lets hope so. I'm skeptical however. This has been going on for ages, I don't see it 'phase out' just like that.
 
It's not about land, it's about security.

Here's a Zionist's take on that:

Since the latest Israeli operation in Gaza began, I’ve been conflicted about it, which isn’t unusual for me. On the one hand, I find it very difficult to believe that the Gaza campaign will “work” in any meaningful sense. It’s not as bombing Palestinian territories into ruins has a particularly good track record, and there is nothing in particular that has presented itself as compelling evidence that this attack will come out differently. On the other hand, the statement “bombing doesn’t work” doesn’t distinguish the strategy of “bombing” from any other Israeli strategy, including the “dovish” ones. Withdrawing from Palestinian territory or giving concessions to Palestinian leaders “doesn’t work” either. The original Israeli withdrawal from Gaza may not have been done with entirely altruistic motives, but was a significant risk taken by Israel that was met by an increase in violence. Israelis notice this. They noticed that Hezbollah stepped up its attacks after Israel left Lebanon, and they noticed that terrorist activity increased in the years immediately following the Oslo accords compared to the years immediately preceding them. The problem is precisely that nothing seems to work. And when nothing seems to work, I find it hard for myself to articulate what I want to be seen done, and I become very suspicious of those who would condemn but either don’t provide an alternative, or whose alternative would simply shift the injustice to another plane.

These points, though, are old hat by now, and have been covered on my own blog. I don’t know what you do when nothing works, I recognize that a true friend in the White House would know when to take Israel aside and tell it to chill, I think we need to realize the difference between being foolish and being evil. Oh, and I think the settler fanatics need to be excommunicated from Judaism. Suffice to say that, insofar as I direct my words to the mainstream Jewish community, my argument is simple: The occupation can’t endure. It can’t endure because it’s unsustainable for Israel, and it can’t endure because it’s oppressive to the Palestinians. Their right to self-determination must be recognized, and it is our responsibility as a community to press Israel to take the steps necessary (whatever they might be) to realize that right.

http://www.feministe.us/blog/archiv...either-jews-privilege-and-anti-subordination/
 
I think he's agreeing with me. I say let Gaza be occupied by international troops until Hamas gives up violence, that way Israel will not be villified for defending themselves.
 
I think he's agreeing with me. I say let Gaza be occupied by international troops until Hamas gives up violence, that way Israel will not be villified for defending themselves.

Israel will always be vilified no matter. But yes I agree, let the UN deal with it.
 
I think the two state solution is dead. Probably be some time before both parties accept it though.
 
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